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[Tiller]

Sasuke was the MC since he left back in part one; all anyone thought was about was Sasuke-kun. Is he going to get saved? Take revenge? Return to Konoha?

Since his introduction and his badassery moves, Sasuke was the character teen boys and girls was fangasming about. Naruto was not immuned.

Still so pissed that he isn't dead.

[ns.Believe.It]

Hmmm....well...I am convinced now.

Before Kishimoto's father died he created Road to Ninja. A movie about family, bonds, and and real love and care. The movie was a hit and chances are his father saw it. After his father's passing, I am convinced Kishimoto just gave up. All the interviews, the words he speaks, it doesn't feel like him. There is no passion in his words and all he speaks now is in circles. Everything makes little sense and now we have this.

I am certain Kishimoto is utterly depressed and lost all will to create. With Naruto, maybe he had a connection with his father through it. I don't know. When his father died, so did Naruto. So Kishimoto just kept writing and writing and writing. Putting whatever on the page to suit his investors. He stopped caring and let others take control. He let them ruin Naruto and now he is just saying whatever answers that come to mind to "explain things." This whole "Hinata is most popular" was nothing more than a fabrication by SP. The movie, the ending, it all was just a huge fabrication by SP themselves because Kishimoto just didn't have a heart to finish it.

He was just a robot who followed orders and probably fed his depression through the likes of Obito which explains why Obito's insanity seems so....genuine. Yeah, people will say it doesn't make sense, but depression does that. What doesn't make sense to you, will make sense to them. I know, I live through Bi-polar disorder.

It makes me feel sorry for Kishimoto. Maybe he is torturing himself. Maybe he just stopped caring. I don't think it is about the money anymore. If it was, he would have done so many things differently. SP was all about the money, but I believe Kishimoto just stopped caring. He just hates himself now which is why Naruto looks so bad now. Why Naruto is not the same anymore. Kishimoto changed due to depression and now Naruto has to. It explains also the lackluster kind of depressing ending.
 

Well.. As far as my opinion goes, the man simply does not deserve any sympathy. Why even try to make far-fetched excuses for such an unworthy person ? 

 

'Father's death'-- Perhaps, but Kishimoto is over forty years old and is a father himself. I find it hard to believe his father's death would make him depressed to such a degree that he'd completely give up on what he loves. 

 

Maybe I could still be open to the idea that Kishimoto is not entirely responsible for this atrocity, maybe I could still feel a little bit of sympathy for the man BUT the words that keep coming out of his mouth tell me that I shouldn't. 

 

Here's what I think-- Its not that Kishimoto gave up on his work or he was forced or that he's trying to purposefully wreck his work. No, this travesty of an ending is simply due to the fact that the mangaka has a twisted view on women, love and criminals. The warning signs were there when Obito-- a heinous criminal who deserved to rot in hell-- was declared as 'the coolest guy' and even managed to get Rin the end. 

 

You say 'Father's death' but how does being depressed by his father's death lead to him making abhorring, degrading comments about women ?

 

All of Kishimoto's interviews make it clear-- He is simply a guy with a twisted view who believes that women are tools for men to use, that love is all about irrational clinging on to one sided feelings despite every hint pointing that moving on is the logical thing to do, that obsession and fangirling are defining traits of 'true love' while trust and gradual growth in chemistry are a joke and that every criminal deserves a happy ending, sometimes even at the expense of more deserving characters.

 

And here's one more food for thought-- Kishimoto is the guy who openly admitted that he used the words of a dead mother and father merely to mislead people !  Quite telling, is it not ?

Edited by ns.Believe.It, 22 December 2014 - 06:09 AM.

[luffyq1]

Still so pissed that he isn't dead.

sasuke was never going to die. plot armor and favortism were at play. 

[Midoriko]

his every decision was like a press conference being held, especially when he met the kages. 

don't forget him and Itachi

 

Still so pissed that he isn't dead.

I am about to piss you off, but he's the true M.C. He's got the last dialog and the main heroine.

[Change]

Well.. As far as my opinion goes, the man simply does not deserve any sympathy. Why even try to make far-fetched excuses for such an unworthy person ? 
 
'Father's death'-- Perhaps, but Kishimoto is over forty years old and is a father himself. I find it hard to believe his father's death would make him depressed to such a degree that he'd completely give up on what he loves. 
 
Maybe I could still be open to the idea that Kishimoto is not entirely responsible for this atrocity, maybe I could still feel a little bit of sympathy for the man BUT the words that keep coming out of his mouth tell me that I shouldn't. 
 
Here's what I think-- Its not that Kishimoto gave up on his work or he was forced or that he's trying to purposefully wreck his work. No, this travesty of an ending is simply due to the fact that the mangaka has a twisted view on women, love and criminals. The warning signs were there when Obito-- a heinous criminal who deserved to rot in hell-- was declared as 'the coolest guy' and even managed to get Rin the end. 
 
You say 'Father's death' but how does being depressed by his father's death lead to him making abhorring, degrading comments about women ?
 
All of Kishimoto's interviews make it clear-- He is simply a guy with a twisted view who believes that women are tools for men to use, that love is all about irrational clinging on to one sided feelings despite every hint pointing that moving on is the logical thing to do, that obsession and fangirling are defining traits of 'true love' while trust and gradual growth in chemistry are a joke and that every criminal deserves a happy ending, sometimes even at the expense of more deserving characters.
 
And here's one more food for thought-- Kishimoto is the guy who openly admitted that he used the words of a dead mother and father merely to mislead people !  Quite telling, is it not ?

I'm not agreeing with anybody
But I do have something to say
Depression is really really dangerous, it changes the way you think completely. I know from experience(not me, but a very close relative)
I don't know if kishimoto is depressed, we will never find out if he is

[NaruSaku fan in Kentucky]

Still so pissed that he isn't dead.

You can say that again.

[unhskikrforever]

Tbh, if Sasuke died, it would have been one of the best ending. I actually expected him to die when the battle started but nope, OOC happened. That's when Naruto is totally ruined.

[DeathGodMack]

http://xoxomyseriesx...12561/important

[ns.Believe.It]

I'm not agreeing with anybody
But I do have something to say
Depression is really really dangerous, it changes the way you think completely. I know from experience(not me, but a very close relative)
I don't know if kishimoto is depressed, we will never find out if he is

Okay, perhaps I was a bit too harsh in my previous comment. But the thing is, everything was rosy and running smoothly until 699-700 came out. Nobody even thought that Kishi has completely lost heart in his work. And now, just because the ending sucked, we are thinking of such a possibility..? Meh

Edited by ns.Believe.It, 22 December 2014 - 06:31 AM.

[narusakuxoxo]

hows the naruto merchandise sales doing in japan

[DeathGodMack]

wait who is http://xoxomyseriesx...12561/important talking about? do, her, and that girl she's talking about come here?. i know chatte was having some kinda depression before but, i don't think it's her but you never know

She/he is talking about how nh and ss fans are bullying the sk fan that wants to end her life.

[Popuri]

hows the naruto merchandise sales doing in japan

let me add: How's NS week in Japan? 

[milan kyuubi]

Last I heard people in JP were pissed of that Team 7 merchandize were being replaced with HInata's!

 

She/he is talking about how nh and ss fans are bullying the sk fan that wants to end her life.

 

Link: http://anzuneverendi...row.tumblr.com/

[Suigetsu]

on NF and everywhere because she is kinda anti NH. But idk if it's true.

In which section?

Library it's full of authists with short kitten syndrome, they gang on however disagrees or thinks differently from NH/SS. That's how dictatorships behave now that I think about it.

[applesauceful]

Anyone heard of Naruto no Senaka -Nakama no Kiseki?

 

Apparently a "upcoming new chapter of the Naruto Shippuden TV anime

 

 

 

EDIT: Just found it some filler arc that tells the story of the chuunin exams during Naruto's absence in the 3 years or something.

 

http://www.saiyanisl...hunin-exam-arc/

Edited by applesauceful, 22 December 2014 - 07:23 AM.

[narusakuno1]

Can someone tell me when exactly is the Narusaku week? I've been hearing about this for a really long time but I never knew when the week is.

[luffyq1]

Anyone heard of Naruto no Senaka -Nakama no Kiseki?

 

Apparently a "upcoming new chapter of the Naruto Shippuden TV anime

 

 

looks like kitten. they're trying to turn more of their filler garbage into canon.

[AHK]

Gah. Holy kitten, it's already 230. Just crushed the entirety if Tokyo Ghoul, now it's off to RE.

By the way, speaking of things that happened at jump fiesta, is anyone privy to Oda's session?

[Moon_Girl]

By the nine. I just caught up with recent events. Honestly? If by some strange twist of fate, if I -ever- meet Kishimoto, I'm not going to even waste my breath. He's gonna get a crotch kick so hard, his ancestors and future generations will feel it.

[applesauceful]

looks like kitten. they're trying to turn more of their filler garbage into canon.

 

Agreed.