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#15321 AnimeGirl_123

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Posted 29 November 2014 - 08:32 AM

I think your being incredibly kind to him at this point.

You're right.  He completely f**cked up. Sakura went back to being her part one self, wanting to follow Sasuke around.  Naruto doesn't have a real smile anymore, instead he is shown mad at his son.  Sasuke is just... gone. Leaving Sakura with their child alone. All the other pairings basically came out of left field with the exception of ShikaTema.  It was completely rushed, and all the NaruSaku development went down the drain for a money making movie.


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Posted 29 November 2014 - 09:01 AM

The problem is if it's already been sold out because of pre-orders, then it is going to be a "hit" on that basis alone.

Pre-order begin to really be a problem for the consumer these day. What's the point of pre-ordering a movie, you never know if the advertise lied. Same apply in video games. The movie sell even if they decide not to show. It's sad

 

Other topic: Road to Ninja just come out dub on watch cartoon online.



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Posted 29 November 2014 - 09:07 AM

Great thread name!! I for one will not be watching the trailer or the movie. They already got me on the chapter endings, when I worked so hard to not get spoiled, only to have my heart broken when I read the chapter. They won't get me a second time.

 

For me the manga through 698 is an entirely separate thing than the last two chapters and this movie. It's like they might as well be a different series.

You said it Tricksie. Maybe it's because I watch too much Fringe recently (I start season 4) , but I believe what happen after 698 is from a parallel universe. That's how the world change if Sakura didn't move on from  Sasuke and if Naruto decide to chose Hinata. The Naruto's world fall apart (Hinata is the main character now)  and we have an unhappy future to end the manga.



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Posted 29 November 2014 - 09:24 AM

rather want a Team 7 movie, than this crap. 


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Posted 29 November 2014 - 09:31 AM

So people are trying to tell me Hinata wasn't a minor character up to this movie... If they can give me 5 important moments involving her, then I'll agree to it. Right now the claim is she's not minor because she's part of the Konaha 12 hurdur

She had literally 7 moment talking to Naruto. but are they important ( I just revisit her chapter where she talk to Naruto for a chapter in my fanfic.)

From part 1

1- She tried to get Naruto to cheat through the Chunin exam. Naruto refuse and made his pledge to be Hokage, even if he'll stay a genin his entire life. (Notice that Sakura was in comparaison ready to give up the test for NAruto, eliminate her entire team, including Sasuke. )

2- She give Naruto ointment after his fight with Kiba (Kurenai explain to Naruto what it does). Naruto thanks her but than forget about her and offer some to Sakura.

3- Naruto pledge to beat Neji and the Neji fight( basically Neji was an arrogant a**hole to Hinata, Naruto was being a good guy here, he didn't hate Neji personally for that

From part 2

1- Their 1st reunion. Hinata blushing, Naruto didn't notice. Talk more to Kiba than any member of team Kurenai in this chapter.

2- Sasuke rescue mission. She was there more for her Byakugan to see through Kabuto. They didn't really talk here.

3- Pain Invasion : Sacrifice, confess didn't die though, brake Naruto will to not come, unleash Naruto in 6 tails state that grew to 8 tails states and almost ended up killing Naruto. He turn back, was happy that she didn't die( she's in the rookie 9 circle after all so she was closest than other people, he didn't knew about Kakashi). He never comeback about her confession, and he said still having feeling for Sakura to Sai in the next arc

 

N.B Plus when we think about it, Deva path was the only one remaining and was weaken. They understand the 5 sec window by this point and Deva can't kill Naruto since they needed to extract the Kyubbi. She let emotion cloud her judgement instead of strategy (go with other people, attack in different range and you could OP Deva )

4- Neji's death to protect Hinata who protect Naruto. Naruto was furious about himself because he couldn't protect a close comrade. Hinata recomfort him a little than Kurama help him afterward. Chapter end with the INFAMOUS hand holding, that end up having no signification thanks to the next chapter.

N.B.2: ONE OF THE WORST DEATH IN THE MANGA. I MEAN DAMN NEJI LIKE THAT. Remember part 1, against Kidomaru, that guy was untouchable. It was wood spike. Again, it was Tobi. He needed Naruto alive for the plan, so the attack wasn't meant to be deadly. Plus we already see Naruto healing power. Hinata could have done the rotation. Neji could have done rotation or a 64 palm defensive or a 128 palm defensive. Alliance could have put the stone wall in front of Naruto instead of trying to contain the 10 tailed beast, you know that this kind of jutsu won't contain a reuglar tailed beast, even less the 10 tails. Neji's death is use in 699 just to put Hinata close to Naruto. A shame.

 

In other word, no, they didn't have any material to make the pairing canon. they end up rewriting the story, forget what happen in the pass, make the main character OOC and irrelevant, kill a cool character all to made a side character relevant. YEP THAT'S SUCK.

 

An NH movie need you to kill every character you know to happen. Their is no romance material in what I wrote up here. I'm sad because an NS movie write itself easily. I mean the main difference is that NS has development, foreshadow and parallel during the whole manga, not 7 moment that doesn't mean anything (check my latest post in 699-700 the end, I tried to wrote every NS moment from Naruto and Sakura POV) There is more than 7 lol. And it's more significant. It's a waste


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Posted 29 November 2014 - 09:32 AM

SASUSAKU IS ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIP AND SASUKE "NEVER" CARED FOR SAKURA....!really?"Sasuke has NEVER cared for Sakura/does not love her, it doesn't make sense he ends up with her".Really?Have you missed the part 1 of manga...where Sasuke was in Konoha before HE FELL INTO DARKNESS and went insane!I don't even have to tell you that he always cared for sakura that time....even called her someone"dear" to him!It¡¯s clear from that Sasuke held a soft spot for her before he left the village in part one. As Sasuke's databook two states, the one who filled Sasuke¡¯s lonely existence with the emotion called love was Sakura. It states, he could not let her in, and THATIS DUE TO HIS AMBITIONS. Therefore, he could only leave with a word of thanks."SASUKE TRIED TO KILL SAKURA" (she also tried tokill him first)Sasuke tried to kill Naruto too, but I don¡¯t see SasuNaru getting kitten on as much as SasuSaku does. I also don¡¯t see Naruto himself getting kitten on for forgiving Sasuke/accepting his apology, yetSakura is the worst character ever for doing the exact same thing.And here comes the part about understanding Sasuke¡¯s character again. He tried to cut away every bond he had, especially the ones closest to him. Sasuke outright says this himself; admitting Team 7 became his family. Once he started to get out of his funk, Sasuke started working with Team7 again, which ultimately lead him to realizing he was wrong. He apologizes to Sakura.ANDSasuke understood the meaning and symbolism of the forehead poke- it¡¯s a symbol of love. It¡¯swhy he does the same to Sakura. But I adore the new extra meaning Sasuke added to it for Sakura. Itachi always said after his forehead pokes: ¡°Maybe next time¡± which always meant to Sasuke that training with Itachi is never going to happened. Instead of replicating Itachi¡¯s words, Sasuke makes it clear to Sakura that she and he will be continued- It won¡¯t be postponed again and again like 181 and 693. He says, ¡°I¡¯ll see you soon.¡± This was a promise to come back- to finish their story.Sasusaku is a pairing that developed in a deeper level than superficial fluff. Sasusaku shows the Japanese romance of perseverance, loyalty and courage about one¡¯s love. Sasusaku is very emotional and meaningful.AND about Sakura...The ¡®Sakura you knew¡¯ was in love with Sasuke all manga long. The ¡®Sakura you knew¡¯ was thinking about Sasuke all manga long. ¡®The Sakura you knew¡¯ confessed her love for Sasuke twice, the 2nd time at the very end of the story.Sasuke was one messed up guy from the beginning but HE CHANGED
sorry to post this here but it really hurts my brain :twitch:


The only thing that I understand is that post is full of Sasuke and Sakura.

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Posted 29 November 2014 - 10:04 AM

How long is this movie?


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Posted 29 November 2014 - 10:13 AM

How long is this movie?

1h10
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Posted 29 November 2014 - 10:13 AM

How long is this movie?

 

enough to give us a mortal dhiarrea.


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Posted 29 November 2014 - 10:27 AM

I vomited this morning. 

Now I think I have to vomit again ... it s getting worse and worse ^^


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Posted 29 November 2014 - 10:56 AM

The new thread title is funny especially due to the fact that it is true.  :twitch:

 

I saw over on NF that Kishimito stated that Hinata was his favourite female character and the man was pretty much confirms that he likes the Naruto and Hinata relationship. 

 

I understand he said he isn't good with romance but still.. He really should have put more effort into the pairing.



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Posted 29 November 2014 - 11:01 AM

The new thread title is funny especially due to the fact that it is true.  :twitch:
 
I saw over on NF that Kishimito stated that Hinata was his favourite female character and the man was pretty much confirms that he likes the Naruto and Hinata relationship. 
 
I understand he said he isn't good with romance but still.. He really should have put more effort into the pairing.


That's because he put his effort into developing narusaku. Then ofcourse, he felt she'd be a terrible person for glancing at another man, so Naruto ends up with Hinata. That is also why we have a movie desperately trying to discredit, rewrite and retcon established canon.
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Posted 29 November 2014 - 11:05 AM

jp people on 2ch said that kishimoto sounds not much convinced and forced on hinata's part while when he said naruto is his favorite character his tone was clear and determined. I think kishimoto is helping to pull hinata's popularity for the movie. Because before he stated "he feel bad to say (who is his favorite female character)... I say everyone.... /pause .... Mmmh... isn't Hinata the one I like? (laughing in background)".


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Posted 29 November 2014 - 11:10 AM

jp people on 2ch said that kishimoto sounds not much convinced and forced on hinata's part while when he said naruto is his favorite character his tone was clear and determined. I think kishimoto is helping to pull hinata's popularity for the movie. Because before he stated "he feel bad to say (who is his favorite female character)... I say everyone.... /pause .... Mmmh... isn't Hinata the one I like? (laughing in background)".

lol trying hard much? I know deep inside she's not really his favorite female character otherwise he should've made her more relevant to the plot and not sidelined her that much in the manga,smh. Kishi you really are a liar!

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Posted 29 November 2014 - 11:17 AM

lol trying hard much? I know deep inside she's not really his favorite female character otherwise he should've made her more relevant to the plot and not sidelined her that much in the manga,smh. Kishi you really are a liar!



"Isn't hinata the one i like? "

Sounds so forced

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Posted 29 November 2014 - 11:29 AM

jp people on 2ch said that kishimoto sounds not much convinced and forced on hinata's part while when he said naruto is his favorite character his tone was clear and determined. I think kishimoto is helping to pull hinata's popularity for the movie. Because before he stated "he feel bad to say (who is his favorite female character)... I say everyone.... /pause .... Mmmh... isn't Hinata the one I like? (laughing in background)".

 

I dont know...

 

I also heard that in one of the interviews during the RTN time Kishimoto also mentioned Hinata as his favorite female. I dont know how true this is though.

 

I also know that a long time ago he said he liked Tenten or something.

 

Doesn't matter now. 

 

All I know is that Kishimoto should have stopped all that pairing bait.



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Posted 29 November 2014 - 11:37 AM

"Isn't hinata the one i like? "

Sounds so forced

 

Definitely sounded forced the first time I read it. It gave me the impression that he was like "...I should like her and it looks obvious that I do since I gave her that big of a role in the movie, but ehhh..."



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Posted 29 November 2014 - 11:39 AM

 

I dont know...

 

I also heard that in one of the interviews during the RTN time Kishimoto also mentioned Hinata as his favorite female. I dont know how true this is though.

 

I also know that a long time ago he said he liked Tenten or something.

 

Doesn't matter now. 

 

All I know is that Kishimoto should have stopped all that pairing bait.

 

 

nope... at a precise question, he said "Well...it's odd fo rme go out with a fictional character from mine mind.... mmmh...If forced, I would say Hinata, maybe..."

 

something like that


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Posted 29 November 2014 - 12:13 PM

Right. I forgot. Hinata was always his favourite character. That's why she didn't appear so much. Kishimoto only wanted to her for himself.

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Posted 29 November 2014 - 12:32 PM

WTF?!

 

I leave for one day. ONE DAY. And this happens?!?! God I'm sorry I missed it, I would have been on the front lines with my rotten tomatoes ready to be thrown....

 

Still, LOL.... Can this series get more pathetic than this? They ruined it all, when I think back at all the manga chapters I want to laugh. I don't even like Naruto anymore....srsly, GOOD JOB KISHI!!

 

I ain't gonna watch the trailer. I ain't gonna watch the movie. I ain't gonna read anything Naruto-related (almost certainly) never again. 

 

Whoever suggested/renamed this thread has my undying love forever!  :love:

 

 

 

 

 

RIP NARUTO..... at this point you probably won't be missed......


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But they were all of them deceived, for another canon was made. In the land of Japan, in the fires of Studio Pierrot, the dark Lord Kishimoto forged in secret a master canon, to control all others, and into this canon, he poured his cruelty, his malice, and his will to dominate all life. One canon to rule them all.





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