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Posted 30 October 2014 - 12:06 AM

I also think it's blue.


 
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Posted 30 October 2014 - 12:07 AM

 

The big hype of the NH fandom concerning the movie:

 
-the sketch of the mysterious girl claiming its Hinata (and that she's pregnant with Naruto's child, this one was confirmed to be completely false).
-The scarf according to them it was given to Naruto by Hinata (from what I've read this is also false).
-The screenshot of Naruto walking ahead with a somber expression, behind him Hinata.
 
So apparently the third one is the main reason why NH fans are making a big fuss. Including Forneverworld who just like the fandom jump the gun and scream canon. I lost count how many times they have jump to conclusions and they're proven wrong.

 

 

The NH fandom screamed canon at 437, ironic it turned out never resolved in the manga

 

They shouted in 615, yet that went nowhere, instead being the overzealous meatheads they are, it just became overplastered and since these are the types of fans who would spend any amount of money on a picture of this stuff, they put it on a cover, opening, ending, and in a game.

 

And now this, well hey, maybe if they scream enough NH went canon not by development but by hype, no seriously this is why it gets the attention, because of insane fans who think something so overly simplified should be answered.

 

Seriously, I have reason to hate the SS fandom for some of the most severely stupid reasons ever when their own ship has been anything but love, a fandom full of the most double standard tightwads I have ever seen who think that their negativity display matters not, that everything will be better in the end at a sudden flick of the switch like I have always said, but the NH fandom, I came to hate and distance myself from them because its just so overhyped, canon or not, its overhyped and its just outright annoying. Part of me wants NS to go canon to just shut these guys up. Not entrall them based upon poor storytelling and marketing just so their preferences are answered, seriously, if you ask me:

 

The NH and SS fandoms have no respect for the story at all, because even with SS being mostly negative and NH having no consistency, being infrequent, just mostly marketing, fillers, and hype, it would really be a letdown in my opinion that NH or SS happen because this is the true basis for it, looking at the wider picture, NS isn't marketed, it just exists in the manga and its hated for the dumbest reasons generally in the west, but hey the NH/SS fandom is the same fandom that wanted to butcher the english language and say naruto confused girlfriend and girl who is a friend and several other horrid views that are just plain the true examples of those who think like this are proof that devolution exists as well and the stupid can spread apparently. To me this is a fact, sadly the one causality in the pairing wars was rationality among these fandoms and no matter what happens now, this is still true.

 

Because seriously, when these two fandoms have nothing but either the basis of "because their girl loves them", some anti-NS statement that is utter bs, or something like Sasuke loving sakura even now past 693 or that he will (which completely contradicts their eariler statements years before from him secretly loving her), that the kushina focus is a joke, that NS is all plaontic:

 

It makes me sad to hear comments like this and that there are people that honestly think like this because after everything in this pairing war, the amount of foolishness and absurd claims on NS again and again, it makes no difference at this point, NS still had the most focus and development, anything they say, no matter what just makes NH and SS look even more convoluted than any fanfic pairing now. Its like why then would kishi have focused on NS so much and not NH or SS? Why this waste? Why just go with the deal of "because the girls hoped or loved them" rather than an actual story plot event like naruto not being able to confess due to his promise?

 

Thats the difference with NS and the others till the end, we can at least say there is a reason NS can occur, SS is just a mess and NH just has Hinata in the genjutsu with nothing important in the manga remaining. Because to me, this love subplot should have the only pairing with development occur, one that still has a plot element unfulfilled but now able to be, not the other 2 which just run on the "because she loves him" reason.

 

I have faith in NS and hope the promise comes full swing, but after this pairing war, god, never getting in another one again, no matter whats canon, least we were the smart and reasonable ones, not the insane diluted just hope for the ending to occur instantly ones or the lets suck up to the boob one and just put down everyone else fandom.

 

Part of the good thing about this war ending, least the NH and SS fans will shut the hell up either way....



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Posted 30 October 2014 - 12:15 AM

I also think it's blue.


Okay that's it Naruto's a scarf wh're

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Posted 30 October 2014 - 12:16 AM

 

The NH fandom screamed canon at 437, ironic it turned out never resolved in the manga

 

They shouted in 615, yet that went nowhere, instead being the overzealous meatheads they are, it just became overplastered and since these are the types of fans who would spend any amount of money on a picture of this stuff, they put it on a cover, opening, ending, and in a game.

 

And now this, well hey, maybe if they scream enough NH went canon not by development but by hype, no seriously this is why it gets the attention, because of insane fans who think something so overly simplified should be answered.

 

Seriously, I have reason to hate the SS fandom for some of the most severely stupid reasons ever when their own ship has been anything but love, a fandom full of the most double standard tightwads I have ever seen who think that their negativity display matters not, that everything will be better in the end at a sudden flick of the switch like I have always said, but the NH fandom, I came to hate and distance myself from them because its just so overhyped, canon or not, its overhyped and its just outright annoying. Part of me wants NS to go canon to just shut these guys up. Not entrall them based upon poor storytelling and marketing just so their preferences are answered, seriously, if you ask me:

 

The NH and SS fandoms have no respect for the story at all, because even with SS being mostly negative and NH having no consistency, being infrequent, just mostly marketing, fillers, and hype, it would really be a letdown in my opinion that NH or SS happen because this is the true basis for it, looking at the wider picture, NS isn't marketed, it just exists in the manga and its hated for the dumbest reasons generally in the west, but hey the NH/SS fandom is the same fandom that wanted to butcher the english language and say naruto confused girlfriend and girl who is a friend and several other horrid views that are just plain the true examples of those who think like this are proof that devolution exists as well and the stupid can spread apparently. To me this is a fact, sadly the one causality in the pairing wars was rationality among these fandoms and no matter what happens now, this is still true.

 

Because seriously, when these two fandoms have nothing but either the basis of "because their girl loves them", some anti-NS statement that is utter bs, or something like Sasuke loving sakura even now past 693 or that he will (which completely contradicts their eariler statements years before from him secretly loving her), that the kushina focus is a joke, that NS is all plaontic:

 

It makes me sad to hear comments like this and that there are people that honestly think like this because after everything in this pairing war, the amount of foolishness and absurd claims on NS again and again, it makes no difference at this point, NS still had the most focus and development, anything they say, no matter what just makes NH and SS look even more convoluted than any fanfic pairing now. Its like why then would kishi have focused on NS so much and not NH or SS? Why this waste? Why just go with the deal of "because the girls hoped or loved them" rather than an actual story plot event like naruto not being able to confess due to his promise?

 

Thats the difference with NS and the others till the end, we can at least say there is a reason NS can occur, SS is just a mess and NH just has Hinata in the genjutsu with nothing important in the manga remaining. Because to me, this love subplot should have the only pairing with development occur, one that still has a plot element unfulfilled but now able to be, not the other 2 which just run on the "because she loves him" reason.

 

I have faith in NS and hope the promise comes full swing, but after this pairing war, god, never getting in another one again, no matter whats canon, least we were the smart and reasonable ones, not the insane diluted just hope for the ending to occur instantly ones or the lets suck up to the boob one and just put down everyone else fandom.

 

Part of the good thing about this war ending, least the NH and SS fans will shut the hell up either way....

Thank you. I feel the same about this whole pairing war deal, I want it to end as soon as possible and never get involved in another one ever again :twitch:


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Posted 30 October 2014 - 12:19 AM

It's scary how much true that is *sigh*

Well, we loses our focus when we keep thinking the end.



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Posted 30 October 2014 - 12:25 AM

Woah his short hair! .____. Idk how to feel about it. Why so many scarfs, Naruto? Looks like his arm will be fine one way or another if he's using rasengan. 

Well after the latest chapter, now we know. Only question is why cover it.

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Posted 30 October 2014 - 12:28 AM

After this whole NaruSaku thing, I don't think I'll stop shipping characters. It's just too fun xD They're just pairings. They don't have to be canon for you to stop loving the concept of the pairing, and what made you like it in the first place.

 

NaruSaku becoming canon would be a bonus in shipping it, but I honestly would be fine with an open ending.

 

As long as there's no SasuSaku I'm fine xD


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Why do people NOT ship these two? I just don't get it.

Probably cause they hate Sakura. When she's probably the most developed female character in the whole show.

I respect Hinata, but Sakura deserves some too.


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Posted 30 October 2014 - 12:30 AM

Well, to be honest, I think since this movie is a hype, they probably don't care about story. I mean how funny Naruto just do that moment and he's rewarded to be Hokage. Oh yeah, he can get that reward for doing something like that.

 

That is not true, in RtN they hyped the story big time. While the story in RtN wasn't particularly spectacular, it at least had a lot of good moments with actual good character interactions and theme. In the Last, it seems really uninspiring. Maybe my opinion will change when we get more information and/or when it is finally release, it is just I feel like we are making a big deal of this movie, when there may not be any reason to make a big deal of it.



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Posted 30 October 2014 - 12:30 AM

Woah his short hair! .____. Idk how to feel about it. Why so many scarfs, Naruto? Looks like his arm will be fine one way or another if he's using rasengan. 

I bet he has so many scarfs cause he wants to fight in style or for a certain person, so guess he has a different colored scarf for each person tagging along so..

 

Naruto x everyone else is canon :twitch:



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Posted 30 October 2014 - 12:31 AM

Well, we loses our focus when we keep thinking the end.

True that. But I'll watch the movie, regardless of its generic plot, as long as it is enjoyable.

 

Woah his short hair! .____. Idk how to feel about it. Why so many scarfs, Naruto? Looks like his arm will be fine one way or another if he's using rasengan. 

I'm seriously hoping that in the manga epilogue he'll have is hair longer again

 

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Posted 30 October 2014 - 12:32 AM

 
That is not true, in RtN they hyped the story big time. While the story in RtN wasn't particularly spectacular, it at least had a lot of good moments with actual good character interactions and theme. In the Last, it seems really uninspiring. Maybe my opinion will change when we get more information and/or when it is finally release, it is just I feel like we are making a big deal of this movie, when there may not be any reason to make a big deal of it.

I only meant this movie.

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Posted 30 October 2014 - 12:35 AM

I only meant this movie.

 

Well what kind of hype are they building off of? The plot and premise seem really uninteresting, the villain doesn't visual look unique, Kishi's involvement isn't made as big of a deal as RtN (that could change in the following weeks)... Is all the hype solely on the fact it MAYBE canon, or the fact it has new character designs and it takes place after the manga?



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Posted 30 October 2014 - 12:37 AM

 

Well what kind of hype are they building off of? The plot and premise seem really uninteresting, the villain doesn't visual look unique, Kishi's involvement isn't made as big of a deal as RtN (that could change in the following weeks)... Is all the hype solely on the fact it MAYBE canon, or the fact it has new character designs and it takes place after the manga?

I think the hype comes from the fact that it takes place after the manga, supposedly in the timeskip before the epilogue. But it's as you say that's not enough reason to declare the movie canon.


Edited by NSmakessense, 30 October 2014 - 12:38 AM.

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Posted 30 October 2014 - 12:38 AM

 

That is not true, in RtN they hyped the story big time. While the story in RtN wasn't particularly spectacular, it at least had a lot of good moments with actual good character interactions and theme. In the Last, it seems really uninspiring. Maybe my opinion will change when we get more information and/or when it is finally release, it is just I feel like we are making a big deal of this movie, when there may not be any reason to make a big deal of it.

 

Well RtN let naruto see his parents, but as for the deal of NH and SS fans not caring for the story, thats my final conclusion with them, after all the NS stuff for it being called a dead pairing since 469, its just a sad case for even a "dead pairing" like ours to get more attention than theirs and even more insane to think kishi would just have sasuke spontaneously love sakura or naruto just forget his promise now and/or just go to hinata despite the whole ordeal from 615 to 631 which enraged the NH fanbase. Because if our pairing is dead, well we devoured the remains of Nh and SS because to get more development and focus as nothing intended, its just a sheer embarrassment for NH and SS at this point.

 

But hey, looking how Nh fans ranted over 631 and 663, at how SS fans said Sasuke always loved Sakura, when it was blatantly obvious he didn't, even for those to think he wasn't being serious in 693 or tried to make pitful excuses about the genjutsu despite him showing sakura himself killing her, then trampling on her views, thats just the limit of absurd and stupidity from a fandom, its just pure fandumb at this point.

 

My conclusion of the Nh and ss fandom is that they didn't care for the story, they only wanted some blatant absurdity to occur regardless of the complications and unacceptability. Because they still believe sasuke will love sakura (completely contradicting their view that he loved her already) and that naruto had somehow gotten over sakura and/or went to hinata (despite us never seeing it and the fact naruto still loves Sakura) or that the kushina foreshadow means nothing because of 691 (yet what we saw we saw, sakura was like kushina and neither way does this help hinata, this makes the whole naruto meeting his mother and father deal kinda pointless on this one aspect doesn't it? Minato didn't even meet Hinata for that point!) God I am done with the stupidity of this pairing war, only going to enjoy NS no matter what, just want to see the promise tackled and fulfilled. Its like these fans loved to work offscreen and ignore what was mostly onscreen unless it was in favor of them, everything onscreen is non-canon unless they say so, everything NS is fake and a lie, everything fanfiction based on NH and SS is true. God glad this should all end. I just hope we get a good NS event between naruto and sakura for the promise fulfilled.


Edited by Inferno180, 30 October 2014 - 12:39 AM.


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Posted 30 October 2014 - 12:38 AM

And who this guy is again( new vilain lol, wonder what his power is since Naruto pretty much broken after the war . Do they release a Konohmaru design for this movie?

Hanabi retrival team? She got kidnap. I want her to not go down easy before she got abduct.

And Tenten is so hot in her new outfit :P.


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Posted 30 October 2014 - 01:03 AM

Damn, I don't like Naruto's hair without a headband.

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Posted 30 October 2014 - 01:05 AM

Damn, I don't like Naruto's hair without a headband.

I don't like with or without headband :cry:


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Posted 30 October 2014 - 01:05 AM

Damn, I don't like Naruto's hair without a headband.

they should replace the scarf with a paper bag to cover that head up.


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Posted 30 October 2014 - 01:05 AM

 
Well RtN let naruto see his parents, but as for the deal of NH and SS fans not caring for the story, thats my final conclusion with them, after all the NS stuff for it being called a dead pairing since 469, its just a sad case for even a "dead pairing" like ours to get more attention than theirs and even more insane to think kishi would just have sasuke spontaneously love sakura or naruto just forget his promise now and/or just go to hinata despite the whole ordeal from 615 to 631 which enraged the NH fanbase. Because if our pairing is dead, well we devoured the remains of Nh and SS because to get more development and focus as nothing intended, its just a sheer embarrassment for NH and SS at this point.
 
But hey, looking how Nh fans ranted over 631 and 663, at how SS fans said Sasuke always loved Sakura, when it was blatantly obvious he didn't, even for those to think he wasn't being serious in 693 or tried to make pitful excuses about the genjutsu despite him showing sakura himself killing her, then trampling on her views, thats just the limit of absurd and stupidity from a fandom, its just pure fandumb at this point.
 
My conclusion of the Nh and ss fandom is that they didn't care for the story, they only wanted some blatant absurdity to occur regardless of the complications and unacceptability. Because they still believe sasuke will love sakura (completely contradicting their view that he loved her already) and that naruto had somehow gotten over sakura and/or went to hinata (despite us never seeing it and the fact naruto still loves Sakura) or that the kushina foreshadow means nothing because of 691 (yet what we saw we saw, sakura was like kushina and neither way does this help hinata, this makes the whole naruto meeting his mother and father deal kinda pointless on this one aspect doesn't it? Minato didn't even meet Hinata for that point!) God I am done with the stupidity of this pairing war, only going to enjoy NS no matter what, just want to see the promise tackled and fulfilled. Its like these fans loved to work offscreen and ignore what was mostly onscreen unless it was in favor of them, everything onscreen is non-canon unless they say so, everything NS is fake and a lie, everything fanfiction based on NH and SS is true. God glad this should all end. I just hope we get a good NS event between naruto and sakura for the promise fulfilled.


Well i said it before, but i used to be a hardcore SasuSaku shipper before and i was really serious about SS in part 1. But over the years i grew up with Naruto and he's a very inspiring character and one of my favorite character in the manga/anime world, i really want that he will get the girl who he loved since the berginning of the manga. And of course they have devenploment and they're entertaining and funny together, and it's not just about one person like saskueSAKURA and narutoHINATA.

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Posted 30 October 2014 - 01:47 AM

they should replace the scarf with a paper bag to cover that head up.

How dare you


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