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[LadyGT]

How can he destroy this though? Looking at this reasonably, after the fight this series will end. Sakura just told Sasuke that she loves him. Exactly how does this end well?

I just think that something like in Jiraiya's novel will happen. Her sensei helps her realize who she truly loves and makes her happy. That can work, after all, everything is going just like in the novel.

[narusaku256]

Hasn't anyone yet figured out how Kishi loves to throw the fandom into chaos and then nullifying the factor which caused chaos?

There are possibilites, still....where Naruto can be the gold medal and if possible....a platinum! But that really depends on how smart/good the writer is...

[FireFox]

 

  its good that   u told us before  . thanks. 

 

 

 maybe kakashi is doesnt even know what love is . .  like he was with rin.. ?

 

 

Naruto should have kittenslap Kakashi before he left for  his insane speech  he's a moron of a Sensei    .

[Gojira]

I just think that something like in Jiraiya's novel will happen. Her sensei helps her realize who she truly loves and makes her happy. That can work, after all, everything is going just like in the novel.

yes like I said that's Kishi's way of suddenly making Naruto the gold medal. He's gonna make the forehead comment and everything's going to be dandy because thank god lover letter nin didn't have a  forehead fetish otehrwise it would have been game over for both NS and SS. So now Naruto's gold medal but on the downside Sakura now comes across as looking inept and insecure to a psychologically unstable degree.

 

Hasn't anyone yet figured out how Kishi loves to throw the fandom into chaos and then nullifying the factor which caused chaos?

There are possibilites, still....where Naruto can be the gold medal and if possible....a platinum! But that really depends on how smart/good the writer is...

ofcourse we know that, hence why we call him an kitten.

[only Naruto]

"Doesn't make sense" I disagree. There is a way to explain this, actually.

And it doesn't matter if you don't like it, it stills explain it.

Kakashi is not Sakura. And that line contradicts what he had say before. 

As for "Kishi intended from her speech" you may be right. I think about that possibility too. That's why i'm waiting for her next move.

exactly kakashi isnt sakura .  and sakura can find out that this is not love . what she have for sasuke . i still have hope . and goodnight.

 

[Gojira]

 

exactly kakashi isnt sakura .  and sakura can find out that this is not love . what she have for sasuke . i still have hope . and goodnight.

 

 

Still renders the development as being completely pointless and makes her character look completely inept.

[narusaku256]

I support LadyGT on this one. Afterall...everything is going according to the novel XD

Nagato: The first one...was based on our senseio which was a total hit. The second one...on me...a complete failure and call it co-incidence or not but your story turned out to be like the guy in the third novel.....perhaps this is the real work of the God.

And then again

Nagato: Become a ninja that surpasses all, Naruto. A book that surpasses all of its previosu generations and covers the failure of the previous books...

Any more hints anyone?

Edit: Like I said...there clearly are instances where Kishi gives us hints what's up with the stuff or what's to happen...through characters...

Edited by narusaku256, 29 September 2014 - 09:21 AM.

[Gojira]

I support LadyGT on this one. Afterall...everything is going according to the novel XD

Nagato: The first one...was based on our senseio which was a total hit. The second one...on me...a complete failure and call it co-incidence or not but your story turned out to be like the guy in the third novel.....perhaps this is the real work of the God.

And then again

Nagato: Become a ninja that surpasses all, Naruto. A book that surpasses all of its previosu generations and covers the failure of the previous books...

Any more hints anyone?

What exactly does that have to do with anything? if you're talking about NS being canon then yes its going to happen if you're talking about it being good in any way.....then no.

[only Naruto]

Naruto should have kittenslap Kakashi before he left for  his insane speech  he's a moron of a Sensei    .

  that would have been hilarious .. and he deserve it.  u know  kakashi have no idea how much sakura care for naruto , maybe if it was yamato it was different .  we need yamato back . 

 

[Gojira]

 

  that would have been hilarious .. and he deserve it.  u know  kakashi have no idea how much sakura care for naruto , maybe if it was yamato it was different .  we need yamato back . 

 

 

It would have been the same regardless of whatever character Kishi was using through to use as his 4th wall monologue.

[narusaku256]

What exactly does that have to do with anything? if you're talking about NS being canon then yes its going to happen if you're talking about it being good in any way.....then no.

I suggest you to calm down. Now you'd say that this isn't the moment we have to calm down over....but every situation follows the same principle and we cannot really calm down and that's why we should calm down regardless XD.

Anyways.....just have a bit of patience and you'll see

The answer to your question...well I edited my last post a bit. Maybe that'd help you to get an answer to your question...

Edited by narusaku256, 29 September 2014 - 09:25 AM.

[only Naruto]

Still renders the development as being completely pointless and makes her character look completely inept.

still can be fixed pepsi can be fixed.. because we expected a way and kishi has his own way from the start. so lets wait and see 

 

It would have been the same regardless of whatever character Kishi was using through to use as his 4th wall monologue.

lol. a person can wish .. .  

 

[Gojira]

I suggest you to calm down. Now you'd say that this isn't the moment we have to calm down over....but every situation follows the same principle and we cannot really calm down and that's why we should calm down regardless XD.

Anyways.....just have a bit of patience and you'll see

The answer to your question...well I edited my last post a bit. Maybe that'd help you to get an answer to your question...

I'm completely calm.

 

I think you're missing the point of the problem. Its not that Kishi won't give us a justification its that there's no good justification Kishi could give us.

[六道仙人]

what's happened to you pepsi? I didn't sound so negative in pm with me...

 

anyway, ramen may be agree with me or not but I see that the infamous line "Sakura only wants to be yours" is really ambiguos (because じゃない, in writing, is really ambiguous. It would be less ambiguos if there a marking question like じゃないか)

 

Sasuke: Did she enjoy herself about love or something?
Sasuke: I have no reason to like her and neither does her too (she doesn't have a reason for liking him too).
Kakashi: There's a reason only when you dislike people!

You can translate this in
Kakashi: Besides, now Sakura... She doesn't want to get together with you!
or
Kakashi: Besides, now Sakura... She does want to get get together with you, isn't?
Kakashi: But it's just that she wants to help you!

To me his sentence is really ambiguos. But let's see if ramen is agreeing with me or not..

Kakashi: Besides now Sakura... She doesn't want to

Edited by 六道仙人, 29 September 2014 - 09:31 AM.

[narusaku256]

I'm completely calm.
 
I think you're missing the point of the problem. Its not that Kishi won't give us a justification its that there's no good justification Kishi could give us.

Well.....has the justification came out? Honestly, how can we decide whether the justification is good or bad even before its out? And all the more....when the justification is only one amongst the many thousands?

Music helps a lot btw....progressive electro and some amount of trance if you ask me.

Edit: Did you read Rikudou's post? That might help you even better than the music XD Just have a bit of patience mate :)

Edited by narusaku256, 29 September 2014 - 09:36 AM.

[LadyGT]

I leave here the link of one of the scenes I translated from Jiraiya's novel. Thanks to Chatte for finding them again.

Renge is the Sasuke/orochimaru of the story
Tsuyu is the Sakura/Tsunade
And Naruto is a fusion between Jiraiya and spongebob

Enjoy.

http://chatte-georgi...-sasuke-kakashi

[Gojira]

what's happened to you pepsi? I didn't sound so negative in pm with me...

 

anyway, ramen may be agree with me or not but I see that the infamous line "Sakura only wants to be yours" is really ambiguos (because じゃない, in writing, is really ambiguous. It would be less ambiguos if there a marking question like じゃないか)

 

Sasuke: Did she enjoy herself about love or something?
Sasuke: I have no reason to like her and neither does her too (she doesn't have a reason for liking him too).
Kakashi: There's a reason only when you dislike people!

You can translate this in
Kakashi: Besides, now Sakura... She doesn't want to get together with you!
or
Kakashi: Besides, now Sakura... She does want to get get together with you, isn't?
Kakashi: But it's just that she wants to help you!

To me his sentence is really ambiguos. But let's see if ramen is agreeing with me or not..

Kakashi: Besides now Sakura... She doesn't want to

Well atleast it would be consistent with what Kakashi said in chapter 675

 

I have a feeling this will be like 540 (will be more up for interpretation than translation)

[narusaku256]

Well atleast it would be consistent with what Kakashi said in chapter 675
 
I have a feeling this will be like 540 (will be more up for interpretation than translation)

I edited my last post yet again XD Maybe it'd help you again...

Edit: @Rikudou After reading your post....I will be in denial if I say I don't trust Kishi's writing anymore and I confirmed some things as well. I started to when I realised certain things. Sure I didn't when this chapter was out. But after calming the kitten out and then looking at everything and then realising certain things which I am still not sure of....I can say for sure that....that sly bastard has full knowledge of how he is writing the plot and characters.

I am interested in seeing how he is going to nullify this....that's a tough challenge for Kishi....but since he does have a counter strategy....well..

Edited by narusaku256, 29 September 2014 - 09:41 AM.

[LadyGT]

what's happened to you pepsi? I didn't sound so negative in pm with me...
 
anyway, ramen may be agree with me or not but I see that the infamous line "Sakura only wants to be yours" is really ambiguos (because じゃない, in writing, is really ambiguous. It would be less ambiguos if there a marking question like じゃないか)
 
Sasuke: Did she enjoy herself about love or something?
Sasuke: I have no reason to like her and neither does her too (she doesn't have a reason for liking him too).
Kakashi: There's a reason only when you dislike people!

You can translate this in
Kakashi: Besides, now Sakura... She doesn't want to get together with you!
or
Kakashi: Besides, now Sakura... She does want to get get together with you, isn't?
Kakashi: But it's just that she wants to help you!

To me his sentence is really ambiguos. But let's see if ramen is agreeing with me or not..
Kakashi: Besides now Sakura... She doesn't want to

Isn't じゃない usually used as a negative? I always remember this sentence when I had to describe something that I didn't like: 好きじゃない
Unfortunately I don't remember quite well....

[only Naruto]

idk  there is something  similar about  469 and 693  . i mean  we all know 469 was rushed and felt strange  but in away what sakura said about her feelings for naruto was believable .i mean the logic and kishi story  told us that she should have loved him by that time   . and she told him the reasons why she did . 

 

the same thing with 693  she told sasuke  she loves him and logic and kishis story  tells us that she should be over him by now . and  she was forced  at these two times . to save them .   to me this man know what he is doing . and i think there is a part 3  . or at least more than 30 chapters and the movie has a part with the romance .