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[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Don't know, but Naruto still needs it for combat or else they're doomed. They got lucky in Obito's fight, but now it's different. I do think he took the body because he did talk to Gaara as it would seem that he was leaving Naruto.

I have those angst feelings of inconsistence...

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 26 December 2013 - 09:25 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I have those angst feelings of inconsistence...

3 weeks. Just relax and enjoy the rest of the break.

[BakeNeko-Chan]

Maybe I'm thinking incorrectly, but isn't the Kyuubi's body and his chakra kind of the same thing? Aren't the bijuu literally made of chakra?

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Maybe I'm thinking incorrectly, but isn't the Kyuubi's body and his chakra kind of the same thing? Aren't the bijuu literally made of chakra?

Then i would have to think about Bee's case here
http://i999.mangarea...uto-4659877.jpg
he let one of his tentacles behind, just like he did on the fight against Sasuke but the inverse.

The gold brothers who ate Kyuubi's flesh.
Kishi is really a troll.

The more i think how the kyuubi could be pulled off from Naruto completely the more i get confused.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 26 December 2013 - 09:32 PM.

[T XD]

Maybe I'm thinking incorrectly, but isn't the Kyuubi's body and his chakra kind of the same thing? Aren't the bijuu literally made of chakra?

As far as I know, no they're not made of chakra in original. The Bijuu have body and their own chakra. They were roaming freely before they got sealed into humans and when they were sealed, they transformed into chakra inside the person, but still get to being physically existent when they're out. That's what I know concerning this.

 

 

3 weeks. Just relax and enjoy the rest of the break.

Yup, and at least there's nothing bad going around here like the last time of this time of year when chapter 615 was out. I can only say that all hell has broken loose in here back at the time !

Edited by T XD, 26 December 2013 - 09:37 PM.

[BakeNeko-Chan]

As far as I know, no they're not made of chakra in original. The Bijuu have body and their own chakra. They were roaming freely before they got sealed into humans and when they were sealed, they transformed into chakra inside the person, but still get to being physically existent when they're out. That's what I know concerning this.

 

I see, thanks for clearing that up.

[Inferno180]

There is one thing I dont like already:

 

Many people are making predictions but just again inserting Hinata into the events like she somehow knows everything orietned with naruto, so many predictions of 661, people just keep throwing hinata in, otherwise just making sakura there and just normal sad, not the kinda of sad we know she would put on and be deeply impacted. And in all this, their predictions just regulate sakura behind hinata thinking that 615 was still a precedence and bigger factor than naruto being the guy who just took the hit.

 

Seriously, I just dont know what think, I mean yes we freaking get it by now, Hinata loves Naruto, but that constant fact that Hinata is kinda unhinged and not really important to the main plot, why and I mean why do people keep throwing her into this? Hinata doesnt even have a notion of importance right now, I mean yes she will be devastated by this stuff recently with Naruto and I wouldnt be suprised if next chapter she had some small focus but some predictions have sakura only trying to heal, rather only putting on a NH floodcase, with sakura just being there, sad, not acting like in say the 2011 OVA or the concern she has put on all this past year for him. Some even have it so Sakura or tsunade dies using chiyos technique even though that technique is lost and theres really no sense or purpose in it happening or them suddenly coming back from a rinne tensei. Others have said Sakura wouldnt have importance despite her being the only one of narutos friends we know of who has knowledge of the effects of a tailed beast removal (sakura just never learned of the stamina factor for the uzumaki). The chances and appropriateness of Sakura having a big reaction to this event within the next 1-3 chapters is very high, and its very appropriate for her to be the main girl in this situation. Hinata has some stuff here but not center stage I mean the one thing I truely dont like how kishi has done in portarying hinata isnt her lack of time, development, importance or worse case making her a fodder character, the thing i hate most about HInata is how she is just suddenly placed somewhere and then becomes the center of attention for not even 5 chapters, then just goes fully to the background and its not really addressed, this is why i say hinata is unhinged, just what are we to expect from her? Yes I can accept her crying but seriously, pain has still been unaddressed and naruto not changing his feelings for Sakura, even after 615 with 631 showing a big hint to the end, just what is supposed to happen this late? 

 

This is a small example of a prediction i saw with them putting hinata in:

Hinata says (crying) what about neji? What about me?

Seriously, that right there makes me just say stop stop stop this prediction, just stop it.

This isnt about Hinata, this is about Naruto, the guy is close to dying in this prediction setup, whoever wrote this, this is almost as bad as how kishi almost portrayed hinata with the "his hand makes me feel safe" in 615 when neji just freaking died, seriously, if kishi portaryed hinata in a situation like this, i would just say, done with hinata, just done, there would be nothing beyond salvaging her development if she even uttered something as what about me when naruto lay immoble and very weak,

 

It would be like: "Naruto, how could you let your tailed beast get extracted and die?" WHAT ABOUT MY NEEDS?

 

This is what I do not want to see and why i question the thought process of some fans, this whole hinata ego, it just needs to die, seriously Hinata's part in this, at best, crying and having memories, even if it was small. But as the center girl in this situation? Absolutely not.

 

Sakura  as the main female in focus would be fully appropriate next chapter for 3 reasons:

1. She is a medic, trained by the best, her trying to heal naruto is perfectly set up for the situation

2. She knew and had this type of concern for the longest time, since chiyo told her, naruto, and kakashi

3. SHE IS A MEMBER OF TEAM 7

 

 

For the billionth time No one knows Chiyos ability, if Sakura or Tsunade somehow learned it, it would be pointless to just give sakura a temp death or kill tsunade so quickly rather than back when it would have been more appropriate when she was near death after facing madara. How many people lost track of this? Seriously? Chiyo died, took her knowledge of the techinque with her, Naruto has stamina, Sakura has been showing nonstop concern for naruto this whole year, only focused on sasuke for a bit and isnt even trusting the guy! Even most of all, that whole "Sakura cares nothing for naruto arguement" I cannot belive some people even think to still throw it around, next chapter we have a good chance of Sakura trying to heal the guy and most likely she will be in tears over it. If this happens, and people still say this, they are in for a big dissapointment.

 

Even so, its possible we could get a big NS moment next chapter or 2-4, depends on the focus, as we have 4 main areas of focus in the fight right now:

Naruto having lost Kurama

Madara getting the tailed beasts into the gedo mazo

Kakashi and Minato at Obito possessed by Black Zetsu

The Shinobi Allaince in the background away from ground zero (the land the tailed beasts and madara just ripped apart)

 

Its only been one day, but something tells me not only are fans anxious to see whats next, some fans may be worried of a possible big NS moment since what 631 left off while others are hoping for some kind of NH moment (despite this not being the appropriate place or time for it)

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

@Inferno

I think it's more a case of wishifull thinking, Minato could probably be there with Naruto too, now imagine if Hinata is there too, it's the perfect scenario they are wishing for Kishi to undo 631.
If Sakura is there once again with Naruto, it's overkill on both again.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 26 December 2013 - 10:57 PM.

[Inferno180]

@Inferno

I think it's more a case of wishifull thinking, Minato could probably be there with Naruto too, now imagine if Hinata is there too, it's the perfect scenario they are wishing for Kishi to undo 631.
If Sakura is there once again with Naruto, it's overkill on both again.

 

I think its more like the common perception of Hinata has been disoritended by her fans much more than even the anime fillers ever could portray...

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I think its more like the common perception of Hinata has been disoritended by her fans much more than even the anime fillers ever could portray...

Naruto is the center of her character, she's going to appear in a way of another if the scenario of him having a life danger, i'm just hoping for Sakura take a major spotlight in this while Hinata is on a background.
Because for me fanservice time for Hinata is already over, and being honest there's nothing new for Hinata there in terms of development.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 26 December 2013 - 11:01 PM.

[sushi.]

Does Hinata even know that Bijuu extraction is deadly? Sakura didn't until she asked.

 

I don't think basic medical jutsu will help Naruto now. It was made clear that nothing could help Kushina in her condition. I don't see how Kishi can get around this without introducing a new jutsu, hopefully from Sakura.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Does Hinata even know that Bijuu extraction is deadly? Sakura didn't until she asked.
 
I don't think basic medical jutsu will help Naruto now. It was made clear that nothing could help Kushina in her condition. I don't see how Kishi can get around this without introducing a new jutsu, hopefully from Sakura.

I think the same about this.
I dont see how she can be logically inserted into this unless Kishimoto turns her into a super saiyan.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 26 December 2013 - 11:04 PM.

[sushi.]

I think the same about this.
I dont see how she can be logically inserted into this unless Kishimoto turns her into a super saiyan.

Yeah and she will immediately understand the seriousness of the situation and be one of the first to rush to his rescue.

 

Seniors will know, but the other rookies might need to be told.

[TouKen4Life3g]

The advantage to Sakura is she's a medic so if Naruto isn't dead, he would need recovery. Hinata can only look and kill panels. Yeah, time for me to shoot Hinata.

[Nostradamus]

Does Hinata even know that Bijuu extraction is deadly? Sakura didn't until she asked.

 

I don't think basic medical jutsu will help Naruto now. It was made clear that nothing could help Kushina in her condition. I don't see how Kishi can get around this without introducing a new jutsu, hopefully from Sakura.

The only one that knows what happens when a tailed beast is extracted is Sakura, the rest of the rookies don't know anything.

Right now the only way I see Naruto surviving is if Minato gives him the other half of Kurama and that cancels his death.

Edited by Nostradamus, 26 December 2013 - 11:42 PM.

[sushi.]

The only one that knows what happens when a tailed beast is extracted is Sakura, the rest of the rookies don't know anything.

Right now the only way I see Naruto surviving is if Minato gives him the other half of Kurama and that cancels his death.

I thought Minato already gave him the other half. Naruto used both not too long ago. Or maybe they just merged their power and didn't transfer it.

 

If you're right, Minato might save him, but it's only a theory. The damage has already been done.

[Nostradamus]

I thought Minato already gave him the other half. Naruto used both not too long ago. Or maybe they just merged their power and didn't transfer it.

 

If you're right, Minato might save him, but it's only a theory. The damage has already been done.

No Minato didn't give him the other half, they just combined the two Kurama's for a short while in order to save everyone with Minato's teleportation technique.

[BlueStarSaber]

I'm not sure if I read it right but didn't Kushina say resealing the Nine Tails would kill her or if that's only in her weakened state?

[TouKen4Life3g]

I thought Minato already gave him the other half. Naruto used both not too long ago. Or maybe they just merged their power and didn't transfer it.

 

If you're right, Minato might save him, but it's only a theory. The damage has already been done.

Minato gave the rest of the chakra to Naruto, but Kuruma (other) remained inside of him. That said I don't know what's going to happen exactly. That one is a strong one, but if Naruto is dead, how putting Kuruma to a corpse would do any help? If he's on the time bomb, then I can see how it benefits, maybe. If he's ok, but very weak, well same can apply I guess. Either way, I want to see what Kuruma said to Gaara first.

[Paptala]

1.  Using a life-transfer technique does not always cause the caster to die - recall that Chiyo also used a life transfer technique to save Sakura after she was stabbed through the sword with a stomach.  The wound would have been fatal, untreatable by any medical jutsu but because Sakura wasn't dead yet, Chiyo was able to transfer enough life energy to save her and keep herself alive.  Since Sakura was conscious during the time that Chiyo explained this to Sasori, saw her perform the technique on Gaara, is intelligent and more than willing to research and learn things on her own time in order to help her teammates, and was specifically very worried about Naruto getting Kurama extracted, I think it would be perfectly reasonable if Sakura reveals that she has been researching the technique in the meantime.

 

Since Kushina did not die immediately from the extraction, I think its likely Naruto will not either, thus allowing Sakura to use the life-transfer technique without loosing her life in the process.

 

2.  I've seen a lot of people theorize that Naruto will be saved by Minato sealing the other half of Kurama in him.  But where was it ever established that sealing another (or the same bijuu again) in someone will save them?  I always thought it was the extraction process itself that strained the jinchuuriki's body so much that it resulted in death, not the mere absence of the bijuu's chakra.  After all, Kushina was planning on resealing Kurama inside of herself and dying.  If putting bijuu chakra back in the body would save the jinchuuiki, then Kushina's plan should have saved her, but no one said that it would.

This is why I think a life-transfer technique is the most likely thing to save him (unless Gaara learned some alternative method of saving him from Kurama), which either Sakura or Kakashi (who was watching Chiyo perform the technique with his Sharingan) are the most likely candidates to perform.