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[TouKen4Life3g]

Here's the answer for Obito by Naruto: Get a Hinata.

 

Review time!

 

Review

[alexander]

Meh. At first, when Obito was trying to strangle Naruto, I was like: "F*** yeah! Someone that doesn't fall for the lame talk no jutsu for once!" but then an even worse session of TnJ started right after. Why can't an villain be defeated without redemption? 

 

Kishimoto might as well start adding buttlerflies and rainbows everywere. This series is just ridiculous at this point.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Meh. At first, when Obito was trying to strangle Naruto, I was like: "F*** yeah! Someone that doesn't fall for the lame talk no jutsu for once!" but then an even worse session of TnJ started right after. Why can't an villain be defeated without redemption? 

 

Kishimoto might as well start adding buttlerflies and rainbows everywere. This series is just ridiculous at this point.

I think that the ridiculous point is that in a way all the Villains has something that they share in common with Naruto.

And they always get redeemed because they see on Naruto, their own self and get redeemed because Naruto chooses the other way around rather than going down on their path.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 06 November 2013 - 10:09 AM.

[Enkai]

Hmm, was an okay chapter, I do think Obito choking Naruto was unexpected but I did find it to be better than just shaking his hand... Next chapter should involve something more about Rin maybe a parallel? 

[六道仙人]

mmh... I felt this chapter a bit uncomplete...

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

mmh... I felt this chapter a bit uncomplete...

Too, i felt more Obito regreting his own life or thinking that even if he goes down Naruto's path he would never fill that specific hole.

[James S Cassidy]

Meh. At first, when Obito was trying to strangle Naruto, I was like: "F*** yeah! Someone that doesn't fall for the lame talk no jutsu for once!" but then an even worse session of TnJ started right after. Why can't an villain be defeated without redemption? 

 

Kishimoto might as well start adding buttlerflies and rainbows everywere. This series is just ridiculous at this point.

 

lol. I again emphasis, this TnJ is actually a good one. What I feel is what most people are upset about is how often this method has worked. I bet you a ridiculous amount of money that if TnJs were used sparingly on maybe only this villain and maybe one other one, then people would not have this kind of opinion of this one.

Thinking about it, I bet you if the Edo Tensei battles did not occur with the most of them ending in TnJs, then this chapter would actually feel quite glorious. Like I said, unlike other TnJs, this one actually has Naruto truly understand what the villian thought, feels, and wants on all counts. It is not just like a similar feeling of lose, but the actual feeling itself he experienced. A melting of memories of Obito and his tragic life Naruto experienced and understands on more than just one level.

 

As for it being ridiculous....lol, well to be fair I could argue that for every anime series.

 

Naruto: "Talk-no-jutsu my opponent into defeat"
Dragonball: "I always have that one last power-up to save my life." Oh, and "The dragonballs"

Yu-gi-oh: "Always pull the right card, at the right moment, to counter act everything." (Aka, "Heart of the Cards")
Full Metal Alchemist: "Philosopher's stone"
Gurren Lagann: "I am god and can create anything my will wants to"

Hellsing: "Alucard can't die...ever."

 

Every series has a gimmick somewhere that kind of gets abused alot.

 

That's just my two cents anyway.
 

Edited by James S Cassidy, 06 November 2013 - 08:05 PM.

[Otaru]

I don't know what to think about this chapter... really

 

I was really happy at first when Obito refused Naruto's hand. I was hoping for some drama. I wanted Naruto to yell at him. I mean, really. And him yelling at Naruto about Rin.

I wanted some drama...

 

I'm a little disappointed about this chapter, but i agree with some of you that said that the last panel is promising for the next chapter.

 

We'll see...

[rocci]

For entire of part 2, naruto only tnj 2 villain character, 3 if I include kabuto.
I think kishi can the knock out system not the defeat mean friendship OR death choose.

[Atheck]

Meh. At first, when Obito was trying to strangle Naruto, I was like: "F*** yeah! Someone that doesn't fall for the lame talk no jutsu for once!" but then an even worse session of TnJ started right after. Why can't an villain be defeated without redemption? 

 

Kishimoto might as well start adding buttlerflies and rainbows everywere. This series is just ridiculous at this point.

 

When Kimimaro was confronted for the second time, Naruto treated the situation in a businesslike manner; we saw only the initial confrontation but is it likely that Naruto attempted anything besides direct blunt tactics? And I doubt he'll make any efforts to try and reach out to Zangei the black market corpse handler who is probably rotting in Konoha's prison system right now (it would be very interesting to see how Kishi handled this though). So we know that it's possible for Naruto to indiscriminately treat and fight his enemies without any ulterior wishes of converting them to his side.  

 

Orochimaru, Madara, and Black Zetsu (possibly) are three potential villains who will need to have their roles in the plot concluded (assuming the latter will even show up again). They have a strong potential to die as villains who fought until the bitter end. If it makes a reappearance then Gedo Mazo might count as a fourth enemy who will undoubtedly need to be destroyed since it's just an emotionally unfettered shell of the Jubi. 

[LadyGT]

I was wondering why Kishimoto had to include all those Rin>Kakashi scenes; Obito trying hard to gain Rin's attention/love during the flashbacks, such as also the " You love Rin, don't you" speech. What's the point of those scenes if he's not going to mention them in the next chapters? 

[Phantom_999]

Slightly confused.............. Won't question anything until I actually have my brain functioning properly. I'm reading this at 6:00 AM
 

 

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[Inferno180]

Well that was a decent chapter. Talk no jutsu to shame obito and then the tug if war ends with the whole allaince and finally the tailed beasts were freed. The good thing in this chapter, after about 60 chapters, this fight with obito is about done. Now we just need to see how Madara is dealt with. Likewise Karin, sugestiu, and orochimaru are no where right now, something extra with them is in the works as well.

I was suprised to see sakura and tsunade as part of the tug of war group. Guess all those people were healed and provided the extra support for the tug if war.

As for a sakura rin parallel, it may not come after all, but it's still easy to know how similar she is to sakura, the sakura Kushina one already is enough to drive ns to potential for hinting canon. The only way the sakura rin parallel will occur I guess is during the final speech naruto gives him, I mean remember anytime after a fight in this series naruto spoke to the enemy to clarify why they did what they did. Naruto will talk to obito again as he lay down. Is this the end if obito? Maybe, it depends on what has happened due to the tailed beasts, all 9 being extracted.

Also, this is the first time in years since shukaku appeared, finally gaaras beast gets an appearance in part 2, sadly at the end.

Happy to see that during the tug of war panels, no one had more or less importance, everyone just worked to one common goal. Guess is was a good design plan though to put tsunades panel under sakura, makes sense. By the way, from Sakura's picture, does it seem her hair is as long as it was again since the start? It seems like it's turning to be like that.

[Branden]

Kishi has done a terrible job of explaining what's happening. Where are they? Is this literally a talk no jutsu dimension that Naruto and Obito were just sucked into for the sake of plot?

[Chatte]

Kishi has done a terrible job of explaining what's happening. Where are they? Is this literally a talk no jutsu dimension that Naruto and Obito were just sucked into for the sake of plot?

It's the same dimension that Naruto and Sasuke were when they clashed back in Team 7 reunion.

[咲耶姫]

It's the same dimension that Naruto and Sasuke were when they clashed back in Team 7 reunion.

 

I was almost sure they were in Obito's mind....

[Chatte]

 

I was almost sure they were in Obito's mind....

Yeah. From what we've seen or you could say from what I am getting, it's a two-way dimension. Dunno exactly how to explain.

When Naruto and Sasuke clashed chidori they went into that particular dimension. Same thing happened with Obito and Naruto too. When they clashed the swords, they kinda like got connected..

[ladyannelise]

if there is one thing i like about Obito now - it's his love for Rin (or maybe obsession?).. even up to the last panel where he think he lost everything, still all he could think of is Rin.. if Obito is this loyal, how much more the main character should be?
this is why i'm confident about NaruSaku - Naruto is supposedly a one-mind track character who will never be easily swayed by others,. when he decided on something, he'll pursue it no matter what., be it the dream or the girl.

alright, i know there wasn't any pairing in this chapter, so forgive me on that.. but really when i read it, i thought... wow, Obito is way into Rin far more than I imagined. Kakshi and Minato was there, but all he could focus on was Rin.. not his rival Kakashi, but the girl she love.. although im starting to hate the TnJ, i liked that Kishi showed us more of how big of an existence Rin is to Obito..
I just wish that Kishi would also show us how big of an importance Sakura is to Naruto; because sometimes, Naruto's obsession in bring Sasuke back is already tiring..

[shadow_Uzumaki]

Meh. At first, when Obito was trying to strangle Naruto, I was like: "F*** yeah! Someone that doesn't fall for the lame talk no jutsu for once!" but then an even worse session of TnJ started right after. Why can't an villain be defeated without redemption? 

 

Kishimoto might as well start adding buttlerflies and rainbows everywere. This series is just ridiculous at this point.

BECAUSE, in this series, most of the villains really are victims themselves.  It's most notable with Obito, as James said, he was a good person but was manipulated by Emperor Madara-tine to be Tobi.  Of course he'd turn good, because that was the person he was, all along.  Continuing the Vader-Obito parallel I've talked about, once faced with some hardcore realization, Vader's own son being tortured by Palpatine and finally confronting the truth that everything Obito was doing was betraying Rin, it causes them to examine themselves and step into the light away from the darkness they were in for so long. 

 

Obito wasn't evil to begin with, so Naruto's TnJ touched the remaining good inside Tobi and released it. 

 

That's how Naruto's Jesus-No-Jutsu works.  That's how it worked with Zabuza and Haku, Neji, Gaara, etc.  In the end, EVERYONE is a victim of the Shinobi Cycle of Hatred.  Yes, this includes Madara.

 

 

Actually, most likely, they were in the Bijuu drift/mind-scape.  Turns out all the Jinchuuriki are drift-compatible by default. W00t, snuck in a Pacific Rim reference!

Edited by shadow_Uzumaki, 06 November 2013 - 01:53 PM.

[Strangelove]

Lol...he lost...and not by Tnj, I guess my No vote won