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Posted 18 October 2013 - 11:51 AM

Sakura is trying really hard on this arc to be relevant to Naruto(she sought his acknowledgement on 631) and help Naruto but Naruto takes her down at every chance, when she was healing Shikamaru she even asked for him to let her handle it for him.

And he didnt let her to.

 

I can see her strong self confidence that she got on her powerup slowly vanishing.

True, like the sasori fight she had to team up with chiyo, and now she had to team up with tsunade. kishi seem to not know how to develop her on her own.


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Posted 18 October 2013 - 11:53 AM

He's going to say "Sasuke is going to betray you again Naruto"

Naruto - "I wont give up" :)

 

 
 

If it was the case he would surely let her heal Shikamaru alone instead of that explanation "it's Naruto's will.."

I saw more like a test if Naruto was really capable of trusting their power, Naruto acknowledges Sakura's strenght but i dont know to what extent, Naruto is totally confusing this arc, i have no idea what he's doing.

Itachi told him to rely on is friends, but he's sacrificing a great portion of his power to protect them and give powerups, doesnt let his friends fight, but when they do, he make sure they will use his own powers to do it instead of their own.

 

I strongly believed Naruto/Sasuke woudl fight Obito while K11 and the alliance would take down the tree instead of this nonsense.

 

And to conclude actually i feel sorry for Sakura.
Since probably that 615 with Sakura's panel probably give me the suspicious something happened, on 627 when she jumped to heal Naruto, looked more like she wanted to do something for him rather than just healing.
Sakura is trying really hard on this arc to be relevant to Naruto(she sought his acknowledgement on 631) and help Naruto but Naruto takes her down at every chance, when she was healing Shikamaru she even asked for him to let her handle it for him.

And he didnt let her to.

 

I can see her strong self confidence that she got on her powerup slowly vanishing.

It was clearly explained that he does this subconsciously. Why do we need to keep nitpicking at such details? Her confidence is still there, she's just worried for Naruto. This doesn't equal not having confidence in her skills.

Plus, what possible skills K11 could've had to lay a hand on Obito? Do we forget that only Senjutsu works on him? I wouldn't say he's still the same Naruto. Yes, subconsciously his chakra might interfere, but this I don't think it has anything to do with not trusting her or the others.

It was explained that his will for his friends to stay alive did this, not his mistrust in Sakura's abilities. This doesn't equal, once again, mistrust.

And in the latest chapter, on the contrary, while probable not executed the best, this Naruto, who in the past didn't want them to interfere AT ALL, no matter what, this Naruto finally called his friends to help him. It's a big progress if you look at it. The past Naruto wouldn't have even called them, would've tried to keep them out of harm's reach by any chance, like he did in Pein arc. But now he's calling them, because he trust them to be able to help him.

The reason why they didn't use their own skills is simple. None of them are able to use senjutsu, thus, Naruto covered that up. But he trusted them enough to ask for their help. Past Naruto wouldn't have done this.

I agree that Kishi's latest chapters were not that excellent and because of the dragging we tend to be more critical, but we also must see the progression in each of them. There are always 2 sides of the coin...


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Posted 18 October 2013 - 11:58 AM

It was clearly explained that he does this subconsciously. Why do we need to keep nitpicking at such details? Her confidence is still there, she's just worried for Naruto. This doesn't equal not having confidence in her skills.

Plus, what possible skills K11 could've had to lay a hand on Obito? Do we forget that only Senjutsu works on him? I wouldn't say he's still the same Naruto. Yes, subconsciously his chakra might interfere, but this I don't think it has anything to do with not trusting her or the others.

It was explained that his will for his friends to stay alive did this, not his mistrust in Sakura's abilities. This doesn't equal, once again, mistrust.

And in the latest chapter, on the contrary, while probable not executed the best, this Naruto, who in the past didn't want them to interfere AT ALL, no matter what, this Naruto finally called his friends to help him. It's a big progress if you look at it. The past Naruto wouldn't have even called them, would've tried to keep them out of harm's reach by any chance, like he did in Pein arc. But now he's calling them, because he trust them to be able to help him.

The reason why they didn't use their own skills is simple. None of them are able to use senjutsu, thus, Na

ruto covered that up. But he trusted them enough to ask for their help. Past Naruto wouldn't have done this.

I agree that Kishi's latest chapters were not that excellent and because of the dragging we tend to be more critical, but we also must see the progression in each of them. There are always 2 sides of the coin...

She always showed to be strong, but when it comes to Naruto she always think she cant do much things for him, and it obviously still didnt get resolved and thinking carefully the chances when she got to do something really impactfull for him she miss those because something happens and Shikamaru's healing was the case, by saving Shikamaru the friend Naruto need when he becomes kage by herself would be something impacfull for her when it comes to Naruto and she could not, just the "he does this subconsciously" but it happened when Naruto thought "i wont let any of my friends die" so i doubt it was subconsciously, Naruto was completely aware of Shikamaru status due to the connection of the chakra cloak.

 

And sorry it has eveyrthing to do with trusting their power yes, will Naruto be capable of removing the kyuubi's cloak and let Sakura do her job without Naruto's chakra cloak to which does the same thing as her remote healing which happened on Shikamaru's case.

Sakura let it very clear, Naruto should only focus on his fight with Obito while she takes care of the alliance but Naruto is literally doing everything, taking care of the alliance and fighting Obito and at the same time giving powerups to his friends which he suposedly trust their power.

Calling them to do that nonsense has nothing to do with trusting their powers, it was more like to show Obito his friends and it was lame.

 

About the K11, they could be focused on taking down the tree with their powers instead of that.

Would make much more sense, since he separated the tree from Obito to give a task for the alliance.

Aside from the K11 Sakura at least is helping since she's focused on assisting the shinobis on the tree battle but has nothing to do when it comes to assisting Naruto for some unknown reasons i think it's pair to pair with Naruto being knocked out everytime she shows her true feelings for him.


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Posted 18 October 2013 - 12:12 PM

It was clearly explained that he does this subconsciously. Why do we need to keep nitpicking at such details? Her confidence is still there, she's just worried for Naruto. This doesn't equal not having confidence in her skills.

Plus, what possible skills K11 could've had to lay a hand on Obito? Do we forget that only Senjutsu works on him? I wouldn't say he's still the same Naruto. Yes, subconsciously his chakra might interfere, but this I don't think it has anything to do with not trusting her or the others.

It was explained that his will for his friends to stay alive did this, not his mistrust in Sakura's abilities. This doesn't equal, once again, mistrust.

And in the latest chapter, on the contrary, while probable not executed the best, this Naruto, who in the past didn't want them to interfere AT ALL, no matter what, this Naruto finally called his friends to help him. It's a big progress if you look at it. The past Naruto wouldn't have even called them, would've tried to keep them out of harm's reach by any chance, like he did in Pein arc. But now he's calling them, because he trust them to be able to help him.

The reason why they didn't use their own skills is simple. None of them are able to use senjutsu, thus, Naruto covered that up. But he trusted them enough to ask for their help. Past Naruto wouldn't have done this.

I agree that Kishi's latest chapters were not that excellent and because of the dragging we tend to be more critical, but we also must see the progression in each of them. There are always 2 sides of the coin...

 

The fact that he does it subconsciously means that even on that level he still can't trust his friends. The idea of his friends doing their job is completely alien to him. 

 

In fact, I'll give you a very important quote from Hashirama:

 

 

"The fellow countrymen of the Konoha make up each part of my body… those of the village believe in me, and I believe in them… That's what it means to be Hokage!"

 

It's this lesson Naruto needs to learn before he's truly ready to become Hokage. If he wants the ultimate recognition, it would be from Hashirama himself. To this day, I still hope that he will eventually impart this advice to him, but alas, I see no chance of it happening. If some Hashirama/Mito parallel were to happen, I could see Mito being the one to point out Hashirama's one-man shows of trying everything by himself and how it caused someone's death (or even several shinobi deaths). 

 

I could see him sternly reprimanding Naruto to not do anything like that if he ever wants to become Hokage, and he'll tell his story of how he failed fantastically, causing the deaths of several shinobi and that it was Mito who set him straight.  


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Posted 18 October 2013 - 12:14 PM

He's going to say "Sasuke is going to betray you again Naruto"

Naruto - "I wont give up" :)

 

Well, that's likely to happen, especially at the bolded.



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Posted 18 October 2013 - 01:13 PM

 

 Yes, in essentiality. Basically, it's just that he doesn't care enough about her to actually trust her to help him. .

 

 

Her abilities as a support character has pretty much been dismissed and thrown flying out the window when he started giving out Bijuu chakra freebies. So, again Kishimoto here is diminishing Sakura's role and keep pushing her wayyy into the back of the bus.

 

As for a leadership role, I think the best opportunity for that would've come with Tsunade's death. Tsunade dying would've been another major catalyst for the Alliance to rally themselves. Also, losing their number one medic would've shook up the morals a bit, and it would be up to Sakura, the inheritor of her will to step up to the plate. This would direct the Alliance's, the Kages' and even Orochimaru's attention towards her, giving her the development she needs desperately. I could even see Orochimaru musing that both NS have inherited his teammates' will. That, and we could've gotten to see Hashirama summoning that giantass statue of his and start ripping Madara into confetti over and over.....

 

Anyways, all in all, I do admit that when you look at the progression of her character from Part I to Part II is commendable, but still is less than satisfactory IMO.

@ the bolded:  I know this wasn't directed to me, and that's its already been discussed and responded to, but I did want to add in my two cents.

 

I never made this connection at all when I read the chapter, but now that you've pointed it out, I can see where you could get the "not trusting her to help" interpretation.  That's really sad and disapointing because I'm certain that's not at all what Kishimoto was intending to get across - which ultimately goes back to my previous assertion that its just another by-product of Kishimoto's failed execution in writing certain scenes.  The scene was clearly meant to be about how Naruto is stronger because he has the support of his friends, and yet its weakened because they have to use Naruto's powers not their own (and thus he could do the same thing in all practicality with his clones), and leaves Sakura out, but does not specify why - leading to all sorts of negative interpretations.

 

That being said, I can't see where you're getting that "he doesn't care enough about her." Naruto's care for Sakura and his friends has been more than well established at this point, and I don't think this scene took away from that at all. There are some positive interpretations to Sakura being left out of the friend group afterall - that she was left out because she's more than just a friend or one of the rookie 9 to Naruto, or that she was left out because she was currently engaged in protecting the rest of the alliance from the tree, which is of vital importance.  And even if it was an issue of trust, that still doesn't diminish how much he cares about her.

 

As to part actually directed at me:  I already answered the bit about Naruto "giving out Bijuu chakra freebies" in my last post - if Sakura had to heal the alliance with Katsuyu after he gave out said chakra freebies and heal Naruto after he burned himself out, the bijuu cloaks clearly aren't a substitute for Sakura's healing.  They are temporary power boosts/shields and the only time that I can recall they took on any actual healing properties was with Shikamaru, and Sakura was clearly still given credit there from both Ino and Tsunade.

 

I too would have loved to see the effect that Tsunade dying would have had on Sakura in particular, and Tsunade honestly should have died given the brutal injury she sustained.  This didn't happen though, so I'll take the positives from what we did end up getting - Tsunade giving Sakura praise and Sakura being happy, and seeing them partially release the seals together.  Is it completely satisfying to me?  No, but again, I know what level of writing to expect from the story at this point, so it doesnt' prevent me from enjoying it either.


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Posted 18 October 2013 - 01:37 PM

I actually got the opposite interpretation from some people. 

 

It's because Naruto trusts Sakura, he is leaving her to take care of the Shinju tree. There are three major obstacles/villains: Madara, Obito, Shinju. Hashirama is taking the lead against Madara. Naruto/Sasuke are the lead against Obito. And Sakura/Tsunade against the Shinju.

 

The other kages, the alliance fodders and the rookie 9 all go somewhere under the three major leads 1. Hashirama against Madara 2. Naruto/Sasuke against Obito 3. Sakura/Tsunade against Shinju. It's obvious that Sakura/Tsunade/Hashirama is not to be on the same standings as the rookie 9, they are the main factors to beat down the villain/obstacle. Naruto/Sasuke/Sakura/Tsunade/Hashirama has so much more responsibilities to protect the alliance. Obviously, Sakura not being one of Naruto's pawns has nothing to do with some petty trust problems. No, Naruto and Sakura's situations are in a much more larger scale than that. Her Byakugo no Jutsu is too important for the battle to be discarded only for her to hold a rasengan and fly in Naruto's tail and shout "FRIENDSHIP!!"

 

Naruto leaving the Shinju in Sakura's(and Tsunade) care is proof enough that he is confident with her abilities. 


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Posted 18 October 2013 - 01:50 PM

That subconsciously think I see it different. Like I said, it's deeply connected to his will to see his friends well. That once again, doesn't mean trust issues.

Let's make a simple analogy....

You have a good friend, and you know he's good at what he's doing, only that subconsciously you still wish all the best for him and wish that he succeeds. It's not the fact that you mistrust your friend, it's your pure desire that he does well.

Same thing here.

If it would've been the case of mistrust, he would've been the same Naruto screaming that this war is entitled to him. But no, this Naruto is actually calling for his friends.

I think it has more to do with him being overprotective, rather then not trusting his friends.


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Posted 18 October 2013 - 01:57 PM

 

The fact that he does it subconsciously means that even on that level he still can't trust his friends. The idea of his friends doing their job is completely alien to him. 

 

In fact, I'll give you a very important quote from Hashirama:

 

 

It's this lesson Naruto needs to learn before he's truly ready to become Hokage. If he wants the ultimate recognition, it would be from Hashirama himself. To this day, I still hope that he will eventually impart this advice to him, but alas, I see no chance of it happening. If some Hashirama/Mito parallel were to happen, I could see Mito being the one to point out Hashirama's one-man shows of trying everything by himself and how it caused someone's death (or even several shinobi deaths). 

 

I could see him sternly reprimanding Naruto to not do anything like that if he ever wants to become Hokage, and he'll tell his story of how he failed fantastically, causing the deaths of several shinobi and that it was Mito who set him straight.  

Bolded: At this point I think that some of us  have too much high expectations for this manga and when a chapter is lacklustre we become critical to it. Some things are meant to be taken a face value and some are not. Clearly, we know he has been healing subconsciously while fighting but that small thing doesn't take away from the fact  Naruto still trust Sakura. I'm sure he still trust her and obviously if he can still trust Sasuke at this point why not  Sakura.  And going by the quote it says  "The fellow countrymen of the Konoha make up each part of my body…" if we put it in context with Naruto he used his chakra-an extension of his body to protect his friends and fellow shinobi. And if we add K8 to the mix, that is precisely why he didn't use clones because he trusted them to create that opening for him. Honestly, think about it if this current Naruto had the mindset of the earlier Naruto in the war the K8 would have never been up there aiming rasengans at all and it would frustrate me that someone will have to beat it into Naruto again about trusting in his friends power to help him.


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Posted 18 October 2013 - 02:27 PM

I actually got the opposite interpretation from some people. 

 

It's because Naruto trusts Sakura, he is leaving her to take care of the Shinju tree. There are three major obstacles/villains: Madara, Obito, Shinju. Hashirama is taking the lead against Madara. Naruto/Sasuke are the lead against Obito. And Sakura/Tsunade against the Shinju.

 

The other kages, the alliance fodders and the rookie 9 all go somewhere under the three major leads 1. Hashirama against Madara 2. Naruto/Sasuke against Obito 3. Sakura/Tsunade against Shinju. It's obvious that Sakura/Tsunade/Hashirama is not to be on the same standings as the rookie 9, they are the main factors to beat down the villain/obstacle. Naruto/Sasuke/Sakura/Tsunade/Hashirama has so much more responsibilities to protect the alliance. Obviously, Sakura not being one of Naruto's pawns has nothing to do with some petty trust problems. No, Naruto and Sakura's situations are in a much more larger scale than that. Her Byakugo no Jutsu is too important for the battle to be discarded only for her to hold a rasengan and fly in Naruto's tail and shout "FRIENDSHIP!!"

 

Naruto leaving the Shinju in Sakura's(and Tsunade) care is proof enough that he is confident with her abilities. 

Which doesnt make sense, why he didnt let the rookies take care of the shinju tree aswell which he could break the barrier with his kagebushins.

In fact Sakura didnt go because she's busy with Katsuyu, she's obviously busy with her actual job.

 

@Chatte About Sakura i'll just post some manga facts.

 

1- Hinata, Naruto says that she's strong and all, on 613-614 when she shows up along with Neji and her father, he shows quite worried that she's on the frontline fighting alongside Neji and her father, which leads to the obvious conclusion that he said that just to make her feel good rather than an acknowledgement.

He thought she's weak and cant fend for herself.

"http://i31.mangaread...uto-3761899.jpg"

 

2 - About Sakura, After she heals him, Naruto gets up but later calls Sasuke to fight, Sakura jumps in and says "you think i'm a weak woman that cant compete with you", Naruto returns with a smile leaving the hint that he acknowledged her.

"http://i3.mangareade...uto-4168507.jpg" "You should rest now"

"http://i4.mangareade...uto-4168509.jpg"

But seconds later we got this "http://i29.mangaread...uto-4193175.jpg"

The sfx means terror, i dont know what does this mean but if he was worried about her or it's his first reaction to Sakura's about to punch a zetsu.

 

3 - Shikamaru's condition, Sakura could have done it by herself but he interferes and get in the middle, i dont think Naruto strongly acknowledged all his friends, because on desperate moments when obvious the truth is revealed he feels the need to get on the middle he doesnt let his friends do it by themselves.

And i agree with you he's being overprotective but this means almost the same thing.


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Posted 18 October 2013 - 02:28 PM

 

 

You talking about me? Yes, in essentiality. Basically, it's just that he doesn't care enough about her to actually trust her to help him.

 

Ok, this bolded phrase caught my attention. You guys are really analyzing too much some details in order to blame Naruto. Saying he doesn't care enough about Sakura is completely overdoing it.

 

The fact that he tried to help Shikamaru has nothing to do about not trusting Sakura's own capabilities, in fact he already acknowledges her motivations and trust her skills since 631. It is a fact that during this war Naruto is trying to carry everything on his shoulders, just the way he has always done or forced to have done given his destiny as a Jinchuuriki. Arrogance perhaps? It's possible now, but to me it is exactly the opposite of what you've claimed: overcaring. He just cares too much about his friends and all his comrades, fodder included. I think that was clear enough in 615 where even after all the talking about not letting anyone die and never giving up he was still led to a mental breakdown because of Neji's death and there's also Obito who kept taunting him leading him to believe for a moment he couldn't do anything to prevent any of that. Later when the tree was summoned it's fair to assume it has killed a fair amount of the alliance in the process and it again led Naruto into disbelief. Some might claim it was a little repetitive and of course everyone is tired of having motivational speeches every chapter but tossing that aside we can clearly see that there's only one thing that can break Naruto into tears, killing his comrades.

 

Overcaring about his friends is his main flaw during this arc, if you can even call it a flaw. Helping Shikamaru is just another example he doesn't want to let them die, this does not mean he doesn't trust Sakura specifically, he wants to help everyone and that's evident by the flashback he's got and by giving his chakra to everyone, even Sasuke. Doing it on an unconscious level means he can't stop thinking about them no matter what is the circumstance.

 

Sakura's thoughts while healing Shikamaru: I really don't see her criticizing Naruto and asking to be relevant. It was more like worrying about Naruto's devotion to them. If you wanna blame anyone for Sakura's lack of development on the battlefield, blame Tsunade, the one who came from nowhere with a senzu touch and healed Shikamaru instantly while taking credit for the healing away from them both. It has already been discussed how Shikamaru was already out of danger when she arrived however there's no denying that was harmful event for Sakura who could've proven right there how she doesn't need Tsunade anymore and perhaps be the conclusive evidence that she had surpassed her master. We all want to see her kicking some ass by herself but there are tons of ways she could have done it and it is clear Kishimoto has been missing some real golden opportunities. 


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Posted 18 October 2013 - 02:41 PM

I think exactly the inverse, he cares so much about Sakura that he doesnt want her to get hurt to a point that he gets overprotective which means almost the same thing as not truly acknowledging them.

 

I also think he cares too much but he is far from being the cause of Sakura's lack of relevance. And I don't really think just because he gave her chakra he is being overprotective. 


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Posted 18 October 2013 - 02:46 PM

Já apaguei tu é foda demais.
Mas apenas fazendo uma observação, o maior desejo dela é que o Naruto compartilhe os problemas dele com ela e não vejo isso nesse arco, isso e umas das coisas que ela mais deseja.

 

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Nada a ve. Eu até concordei com o post que você apagou. Ia ser bem louco Naruto apanhando enquanto os outros o salvassem.  :thumb: 


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Posted 18 October 2013 - 02:50 PM

 

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Nada a ve. Eu até concordei com o post que você apagou. Ia ser bem louco Naruto apanhando enquanto os outros o salvassem.  :thumb: 

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pior que apaguei de novo lol.

 

 

I also think he cares too much but he is far from being the cause of Sakura's lack of relevance. And I don't really think just because he gave her chakra he is being overprotective. 

 

 i adressed not her lack of relevance, i think Sakura's major relevance has to do with letting Naruto share his burdens with her which is something she strongly want him to, it got obvious when he told her to get some rest on 631(Team 7 chapter) and (Path to Radiance).

Naruto's being overprotective means a lot, while he downplays their feats, because Naruto's is pushing himself too far doing everything by himself.

And it's mostly due to Neji's death.

 

Sakura really wants to do something BIG for Naruto but he doenst let her, just like he wants to handle the Sasuke thing by himself which Sakura will obviously wont allow Naruto do it by himself.


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Posted 18 October 2013 - 03:07 PM

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pior que apaguei de novo lol.

 
 

 i adressed not her lack of relevance, i think Sakura's major relevance has to do with letting Naruto share his burdens with her which is something she strongly want him to, it got obvious when he told her to get some rest on 631(Team 7 chapter) and (Path to Radiance).

Naruto's being overprotective means a lot, while he downplays their feats, because Naruto's is pushing himself too far doing everything by himself.

 

Sakura really wants to do something BIG for Naruto but he doenst let her, just like he wants to handle the Sasuke thing by himself which Sakura will obviously wont allow Naruto do it by himself.

 

I agree on that. But if you look closely this is a trait they both share, and not only Naruto. When Sakura got hurt by Naruto 4 tails, Sakura did the exact same thing: took all the burden for herself to protect Naruto.

 

Right after that she does it again, this time trying to elude Naruto into believing she's gotten over Sasuke and tries to handle everything on her own and almost got herself killed in the process. 

 

IMO they both want to do something BIG for each other and, coincidentally, they are being kept from realizing how far their concern for each other has come. 

 

And yes, I really hope Sakura gets the chance to prove Naruto how much she can do and wants to do for him.

 

Bolded: Triple post for the win!


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Posted 18 October 2013 - 03:10 PM

 

I agree on that. But if you look closely this is a trait they both share, and not only Naruto. When Sakura got hurt by Naruto 4 tails, Sakura did the exact same thing: took all the burden to herself to protect Naruto.

 

Right after that she does it again, this time trying to elude Naruto into believing she's gotten over Sasuke and tries to handle everything on her own and almost got herself killed in the process. 

 

IMO they both want to do something BIG for each other and, coincidentally, they are being kept from realizing how far their concern for each other has come. 

 

And yes, I really hope Sakura gets the chance to prove Naruto how much she can do and wants to do for him.

O que a foda é "IMO"?

 

ANd yes i think the same a Naruto and Sakura confrontation on this matter is awaiting aswell she wont allow Naruto handle Sasuke by himself.


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Posted 18 October 2013 - 03:10 PM

O que a foda é "IMO"?

 

In my opinion.


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Posted 18 October 2013 - 03:12 PM

 

In my opinion.

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#299 ramenanmitsu

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Posted 18 October 2013 - 03:16 PM

Which doesnt make sense, why he didnt let the rookies take care of the shinju tree aswell which he could break the barrier with his kagebushins.

In fact Sakura didnt go because she's busy with Katsuyu, she's obviously busy with her actual job.

 

Hmmm? That's what I'm saying. She's busy with her actual job protecting the alliance so they can keep fighting against the Shinju. I didn't mention anything about Katsuyu. 

 

And regarding the rookies, there really wasn't any need battle-wise for the rookies to interfere in Naruto/Sasuke vs. Obito. However they were needed story-wise to show how friendship can make you stronger. Add to the fact that the situation of the battle isn't likely to change whether the rookies are in one battle field or another. 


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Posted 18 October 2013 - 03:23 PM

Oh man, what a split decision, but I think I explained myself enough on Sakura, though there's a Sakura appreciation day today, so join me if you like. But on-topic, honestly, the only problems I had was all focused on one attack and chapter was done quick. As for one attack focus, the problem I have is perhaps due to limited chapter pages, I bet Kishi couldn't make it as impactful he might want to do. For example, in 634, it feels like "it's all over" scenario due to how all K9 have one word to say, "Finish it now!" That part was missing. Also, that chapter got helped by adding Naruto's happiness on his element being able to be double side sword with Sasuke's element. That felt more final even if it wasn't. Granted, this moment may not be final as well due to Madara being around, so for me, there's still hope.






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