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[Luna]

Whoa whoa whoa wwwwwwaaaaiiiittt a minute.   MinaSaku? Lol that would be one hell of an awkward conversation between Naruto and his father

LOL  MinaSaku fanfics are acutally good. I only read them due to the fact that Sakura is like Kushina. 

[Shadow1275]

LOL  MinaSaku fanfics are acutally good. I only read them due to the fact that Sakura is like Kushina. 

Lol

 

Minato:So is she your girlfriend?

 

Naruto:..Well thats more or less it why?

 

Minato:"Looks away quickly" No reason...

[Luna]

Lol

 

Minato:So is she your girlfriend?

 

Naruto:..Well thats more or less it why?

 

Minato:"Looks away quickly" No reason...

lmaooo  now that is awkward.........

We will need to take this to the Steve Wilkos show.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Hm, well I got a question then.

 

Would you say the past pairing(s) make you support NaruSaku more or less, or is it because it's good without reflecting anything from elsewhere?

Well, time to answer me. The answer is the latter. Again, looking back at my list, while some of the old series and newer ones, I do like some of them and some I even like a lot, probably create a top 5 soon, but NS was the first one that I ever experience this magnitude of bonds. Even still, this one remains my OTP not because it's the first ever, but it's just that it's really good to me and I seem can't get enough of it. So yeah, that's my short answer.

[morgaine4]

I have a question for you peoples, specifically those of you who read lots of other manga/watch lots of other anime ;).  I've read several times that Sakura is a "different sort of heroine" and that "NaruSaku are a different sort of manga couple," and I've read that a few times in this very thread.  Could any of you (or many of you?) explain what makes them different/unique?  Just curious!  =D

[Luna]

I have a question for you peoples, specifically those of you who read lots of other manga/watch lots of other anime ;).  I've read several times that Sakura is a "different sort of heroine" and that "NaruSaku are a different sort of manga couple," and I've read that a few times in this very thread.  Could any of you (or many of you?) explain what makes them different/unique?  Just curious!  =D

Sakura

 

For me with Sakura...I like underdogs. In all the anime's I watched particularly action ones most of the girls weren't so helpless(not bashing) but with Sakura she started it out with nothing just her chakra and brain. As time went on she wanted to prove that she can be useful and help ( like me) and no anime character has made me feel like that to be honest. I can relate to her in that aspect because in my house I'm the last  sibling and everyone has  a really good job and it make me feel like I don't want to be left out. Sakura Is a character that all of us can relate to- rather it has to do with her background as being bullied, unrequited love or trying to show the world she is somebody as well. She is one of the most Human-like character I came across and  laugh at me for saying this but I love Sakura as a character and it feels like I have a bond with her. (This is from my heart..there is more but I can't put it into words lol)

 

NaruSaku

 

NaruSaku is everything a relationship could want to be honest. It's the first pairing I actually really liked and it's unique to me because it's like we watched their lives from when they were like 12 and we watched how mere friendship  build up to be something more. With other anime the romance build up is normally fast paced but with NaruSaku it started slowly from part 1 and began lifting off the ground in part 2 which I  enjoyed watching and all their interactions. Their comical moments, sad moments, happy moments all were/is a joy to watch. I love how they support each other in sad times....how they try to hide their emotions to make the other feel safe.

 

This is for me....I think I rambled. Too much to type into words.

Edited by Baka chan, 18 October 2013 - 06:10 AM.

[morgaine4]

Thank you Baka chan, for the answer!  I don't know if your attachment to Sakura is silly, if it is so is mine.  I feel the same way about her.  I love that she's not from a prominent clan, that she's not a princess of any sort, that everything she's become is she has through her own determination, her intelligence and memorization skills, and her drive.  She's amazing, and I've said this before and I'll say it over and over again, seeing how far she's come (from the skill-free kunoichi to one of the top medics), I just feel like I'm in awe of her...and when I remember what Tsunade had to work with, and how well Tsunade taught her, it really seems to me that not only is Tsunade under-estimated, but that she's probably the most effective teacher.  I'm so team Saku-Shiz-Tsunade it hurts.

 

About NS, that's really interesting about the slow-build, and it really doesn't surprise me that that's something that makes the couple unique (based on complaints I see from anti and pro NSers alike).  It's always surprised me that the slow build is so often criticized, because I would think that in any sort of long-running, serial fiction such snail paced build up would actually be a good thing.

[Luna]

Thank you Baka chan, for the answer!  I don't know if your attachment to Sakura is silly, if it is so is mine.  I feel the same way about her.  I love that she's not from a prominent clan, that she's not a princess of any sort, that everything she's become is she has through her own determination, her intelligence and memorization skills, and her drive.  She's amazing, and I've said this before and I'll say it over and over again, seeing how far she's come (from the skill-free kunoichi to one of the top medics), I just feel like I'm in awe of her...and when I remember what Tsunade had to work with, and how well Tsunade taught her, it really seems to me that not only is Tsunade under-estimated, but that she's probably the most effective teacher.  I'm so team Saku-Shiz-Tsunade it hurts.

 

About NS, that's really interesting about the slow-build, and it really doesn't surprise me that that's something that makes the couple unique (based on complaints I see from anti and pro NSers alike).  It's always surprised me that the slow build is so often criticized, because I would think that in any sort of long-running, serial fiction such snail paced build up would actually be a good thing.

Slow build is a good thing and it makes the couple that has that build worth the wait and occurs in most shounen anime because the story is focused on the hero and romance is normally a sub plot. Shoujo anime is normally face paced romance  with the theme as romance and it's hard to find slow build romance which Is why I dislike most shoujo anime.

Edited by Baka chan, 18 October 2013 - 06:57 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I have a question for you peoples, specifically those of you who read lots of other manga/watch lots of other anime ;).  I've read several times that Sakura is a "different sort of heroine" and that "NaruSaku are a different sort of manga couple," and I've read that a few times in this very thread.  Could any of you (or many of you?) explain what makes them different/unique?  Just curious!  =D

 

Sakura

Well, for Sakura, you have to join me in Sakura appreciation post tomorrow. I will write down on why she has been one of my favorite. I will write down the nutshell here though.

 

Sakura is different from many that I have read or watch because many of them are there just to provide backup and exchange with interactions and so on. They will have one problem that will center them, but once that's done, in a way, they can disappear and you won't miss a thing. Granted, Sakura don't need to be here but it's her developments, attachments, and her character herself that makes it worth being there. Ok, here's an example. I like Rukia from Bleach, but unfortunately not just in interactions, but not much has happened with her and often feels like more of background, way more so than Sakura as people would like to say. I know it's about preference, but to me, I feel disappointed because while she can fight, the problem is she can only fight.

 

Not saying no heroine should fight, but heroine should also provide other traits, especially in a manga where heroine is not the protagonist, let alone not in Shoujo. That's why medic is still considered heroic and there are matured critics that actually agreed on this. Also, it's not bad that you can fight, but the novelty would wear thin if you're in a long lasting series, which is why short series works really well. Don't get me started on Orihime if you want to talk about in battlefield wise. That's one of the reason why the first war arc they had was, well not terrible, but not good. The thing about heroine to me is don't be the same class as the hero or at least of another. This is why I appreciated a lot with AoT (SnK) because the protagonist has a different power altogether, so the heroine role is highly acceptable as well the other main character, who is all about the intellect. Naruto works as well and it's one of the few reason why I'm glad Sasuke went separate way, because we don't really two powerhouse guys in terms of story. Real life, yeah, why not, but something for us to watch/read, well make it different. If you like to know more, feel free to ask because I don't want to take too much time.

 

NaruSaku

Now as for pairings, the thing is about this pairing is that it involved in different criteria. In part 1, we start off with a dislike from Sakura to Naruto and no, not like "Oh I hate that guy" in comedy fashion, most notably Sailor Moon, where you can tell right off the bat they will be together. Then, we literally see the transformation of Sakura from disliking to slowly accepting him more and more. Like how she couldn't believe Naruto was capable to handle the battle with Kakashi. You got her feeling mixed with doubts and trusts that Naruto can actually become a true ninja. For example, she was like, "Oh I knew it, he's giving up climbing the tree," only for Naruto actually asking for help, which caught her off-guard. So yeah, you know the story. The main factor is the transformation of her and they become close friends by the end of part 1. So in the beginning of part 2, it feels like they can always be friend and they will get Team 7 back together. Unfortunately, there's many problems that is already placed on Naruto.

 

After Naruto dealt with Itachi, Sakura was shocked to learn that Naruto's enemies are really strong and because of that, he will always be in danger as long as they're around. So the more she learns about his problems, the more she becomes afraid of his well being. In part 1, while there were troubles, it's more of a natural situation like a robbery comes to my house on one night. In part 2, she learned that there are enemies that specifically targets Naruto as well as his own curse. Part 1 is about making a great friendship with each other, but now, it's all about the dark side. It's much like if the protagonist enters the war and the heroine does as well, the rude awakening awaits them, especially if the protagonist will be treated differently from others, due to writing a story for us. The fear factor from the heroine, or in this case Sakura will increase in a very serious situation, which again why I love KN4 incident. In fact, that moment alone should easily tell you that they're going to be together in the end. Funny, because the witnesses (supporters aka Yamato and Sai) of Sakura's feelings towards Naruto actually isn't the first.

 

So again, this one takes it time to create a convincing strong bond and it works because you can really buy the fact they are close and they would do anything to keep each other from feeling hurt, physically and mentally. That's not to say all anime/manga should copy the formula from this, because there are others that are pretty good. It's just this one got my right cup of tea.

[Chatte]

I wanted to say this for a long time and I am saying it now because I don't want to forget. We've all debated about the fact that the forehead scene will play an important role. Some said yes, some said no.

One of the arguments is that it holds no true meaning in her heart because she's only remembered the thank you part from Sasuke, when she was about to slay him, so to speak.

 

Now, I want to beg to differ here. One of the reasons Sakura didn't remember the forehead scene and remembered the thank you part was because:

1. That is a scene that will be brought-up in a Naruto context, since Naruto was the one henge'd into Sasuke.

2. After that moment, the real Sasuke comes and calls her annoying, which adds to the "you hate me" part or however you want to name it.

 

Now, the reason she didn't remember that part, imo, is the fact that since it was a negative experience in Sakura's mind, let's say she burried it somewhere and holds dear only the "Thank you" part because it was the most positive thing she ever got from Sasuke.

 

That's why, when the forehead scene will be played, it will be played in the Naruto-Sakura pov and it wasn't present in the Sakura-Sasuke pov.

 

Hope I am clear, it's early in the morning and I still can't think clearly.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I wanted to say this for a long time and I am saying it now because I don't want to forget. We've all debated about the fact that the forehead scene will play an important role. Some said yes, some said no.

One of the arguments is that it holds no true meaning in her heart because she's only remembered the thank you part from Sasuke, when she was about to slay him, so to speak.

 

Now, I want to beg to differ here. One of the reasons Sakura didn't remember the forehead scene and remembered the thank you part was because:

1. That is a scene that will be brought-up in a Naruto context, since Naruto was the one henge'd into Sasuke.

2. After that moment, the real Sasuke comes and calls her annoying, which adds to the "you hate me" part or however you want to name it.

 

Now, the reason she didn't remember that part, imo, is the fact that since it was a negative experience in Sakura's mind, let's say she burried it somewhere and holds dear only the "Thank you" part because it was the most positive thing she ever got from Sasuke.

 

That's why, when the forehead scene will be played, it will be played in the Naruto-Sakura pov and it wasn't present in the Sakura-Sasuke pov.

 

Hope I am clear, it's early in the morning and I still can't think clearly.

Don't worry, you nailed it nicely. Early in the morning? Heh, it's almost morning for me.

[Chatte]

Don't worry, you nailed it nicely. Early in the morning? Heh, it's almost morning for me.

Well, not that early, it's 10:22 am but I still haven't drank my coffee, lol.

Glad you understood, haha.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Well, not that early, it's 10:22 am but I still haven't drank my coffee, lol.

Glad you understood, haha.

No problem. I don't need the sleep but the body force me to. So yeah, I get your message and that's what I think as well.

[morgaine4]

NaruSaku4Life3g, thank you for answering!  Your explanation about Sakura is really interesting to me, because essentially you're saying that you appreciate Sakura because she is a well-rounded human being rather than someone who fits a "role"?  Super interesting, I always felt that about her, but because of criticism wondered if other heroines (who weren't the protagonists of their stories) were better-rounded than she.  I guess it just depends on what a reader is looking for.  About NaruSaku, that's really interesting that their stories for part 1 and part 2 were different.  I've believed you mentioned that before and I don't remember if I commented, but I think that's a really interesting and good point!

[TouKen4Life3g]

NaruSaku4Life3g, thank you for answering!  Your explanation about Sakura is really interesting to me, because essentially you're saying that you appreciate Sakura because she is a well-rounded human being rather than someone who fits a "role"?  Super interesting, I always felt that about her, but because of criticism wondered if other heroines (who weren't the protagonists of their stories) were better-rounded than she.  I guess it just depends on what a reader is looking for.  About NaruSaku, that's really interesting that their stories for part 1 and part 2 were different.  I've believed you mentioned that before and I don't remember if I commented, but I think that's a really interesting and good point!

Exactly. Again, when you're a character that is similar to many other characters in terms of role, then you will get sidelined because in Shounen, if you're not strong enough like others, you won't get the real meal, only appetizer. The only sacrifice that well-rounded human being would get is probably not a lot of one attributes such as fighting, but the thing about Naruto (series) is that we're not dealing with One Piece, Toriko, Fairy Tail, or any other Shounen series, where they have a boss and sub-bosses. In Naruto, there are only bosses. Think about it: Akatsuki and Orochimaru. That's it. All the subs from Orochimaru ended in the end of part 1. In part 1, it's more about introduction for K9 and dealing with Gaara. After that, it's all about bosses. Note: not including first arc ever because every first arc is all about the intro to the universe before entering the real story. So in a way, Sakura actually works really well in here. If she was in another series with traits that I mentioned, then well, we do need some fixing.

 

To me, it feels like a very long monthly series manga rather than a Shounen adventure style. What I mean is that Naruto only has two main villain cooperations and we only focus on them. Not one moment we get a whole new villain that ties very little to the main story. Like in One Piece, I believe the one arc everyone seems to have a hard time to accept was Skypia because while it was fun, what exactly does it fit to the main plot. Well, for many, we have to wait, but still, some arcs separate from the main story. The result is different than Naruto as in Naruto gives you a moral in the end of arc while One Piece do at times but the more important question is: did you like it. Anyway, the reason why I said that first sentence is because those series usually focus on one story with same villains and not like trying to spread to new places with whole new villains that only there to fill in for characters to kill time. FMA only have a villain organization, so that's how I see Naruto, just very long. So in other word, you got the wrong manga if thinking going to an adventure.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 18 October 2013 - 08:06 AM.

[Paptala]

Lol is this still on topic?

It's useless to debate just going to post here four quotes.

 

"Sakura will never get over Sasuke"

"Sakura will never see Naruto more than a friend"

later ~~

"Make Naruto think twice about her as a love interest  "

"Sakura wont return Naruto's feelings but Naruto will return Hinata's"

*shrugs* It was addressing an argument against NaruSaku, not so much the proponents of the argument (though admittedly I did touch on that a bit).  It was just something I wanted to write about since I've seen that particular argument tossed around with regularity since I became invovled with the online fandom, and it really bothered me.

 

The above quotes pretty much just all say, "NS is never gonna happen, NH and SS will."  To which I would simply direct them to Selxtrem's build up thread, and some notable tumblr blogs.

 

I have a question for you peoples, specifically those of you who read lots of other manga/watch lots of other anime ;).  I've read several times that Sakura is a "different sort of heroine" and that "NaruSaku are a different sort of manga couple," and I've read that a few times in this very thread.  Could any of you (or many of you?) explain what makes them different/unique?  Just curious!  =D

Sakura, as others have said, seems like a much more realisitc character than many other heroines.  I think most heorines are a lot more idylic or aspirational characters than Sakura is.  Most 12 year girls with the type of childhood Sakura had would act in the manner that Sakura did in part one.  Except that not many would be willing to recognize and examine their faults and actively work to fix them as Sakura eventually did.  She hasn't succeeded entirely, but she's made massive growth overall, and she continues to keep trying to improve herself.

 

As for NaruSaku itself, again, it's really hard to pinpoint what it is about it thats so unique, but I would have to go wth the gradual development.  I like that Naruto's crush started out as something more juvenile and immature than what it grew into by the end of series (and even then it wasn't shallow).  I like that we got to see Naruto and Sakura's friendship develop on panel gradually alongside Naruto's maturing romantic feelings.  I like that it wasn't until part two that we saw any signs of romantic interest from Sakura towards Naruto.  Regardless of whether they become canon or not (even though I think they most likely will), I will still adore the strong and close relationship they've grown over the course of story, and just how far they've grown together from where they began.

 

I really loved reading all the responses to morgaine's question, unfortunately I ran out of likes to give.  Thanks for bringing some much needed positivity to the thread!

Edited by Paptala, 18 October 2013 - 01:53 PM.

[arian_rad]

How would you guys feel if the anime team does a whole ending dedicated to narusaku when they become canon and the anime does catch up to that point. I would really like an ending that goes through all their individual moments and how they ended up together at the very end of the story. Just something to celebrate the canonization. I think it would be something great to celebrate the couple and think it's realistic that the anime team could possibly end up doing it.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

How would you guys feel if the anime team does a whole ending dedicated to narusaku when they become canon and the anime does catch up to that point. I would really like an ending that goes through all their individual moments and how they ended up together at the very end of the story. Just something to celebrate the canonization. I think it would be something great to celebrate the couple and think it's realistic that the anime team could possibly end up doing it.

I'm gonna by happy after all the years the fanservice they gave to Hinata like even making her use                                    Mystical FacePalm Technique to heal patients.

It's gonna be a pleasure.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 18 October 2013 - 02:55 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

How would you guys feel if the anime team does a whole ending dedicated to narusaku when they become canon and the anime does catch up to that point. I would really like an ending that goes through all their individual moments and how they ended up together at the very end of the story. Just something to celebrate the canonization. I think it would be something great to celebrate the couple and think it's realistic that the anime team could possibly end up doing it.

Oh my god, I remember saying this a long time ago. It happened in Major, I would so love to happen for Naruto. After all, they really invested in NS, which is a plus for me, hehehe, so why not.

[rikakim94]

Does anyone find this funny?

 

http://naru-luvs-sak...na-and-naruto-3

 

Sakura in this photo looks like a tsunade clone! 

 

To me sakura needs something to stand out when she grows older, I don't see her turning into a tsunade clone appearance wise.