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Posted 16 October 2013 - 07:12 PM

All I know is, I expect it to wrap up this volume. From obito's words only a few minutes remain... Possibly 4-5 minutes. This next chapter should introduce madara as the very final villain and the next 4 should be focused on defeating him fully. Kishi has the space in those pages to create a really good ending to a very boring war.

Yeah, I know what you mean. Well, we have to wait on next week now, though I heard a chance of delay due to typhoon or something natural disaster for Tokyo. Hopefully nothing goes wrong, not for manga but for the people.

 

I admit that at times I really should start considering to write my own story. Actually, it's been my head for a while. That said when this arc ends, I will write down what would I like/expected instead. We're almost done.



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Posted 16 October 2013 - 07:16 PM

You know it's possible that all the villains are defeated at the end of the volume and the aftermath like Sasuke betraying everyone and the Hokages leavening (depending if Orochimaru lets them) will be whatever chapters are left for the year for the aftermath.



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Posted 16 October 2013 - 07:19 PM

All I know is, I expect it to wrap up this volume. From obito's words only a few minutes remain... Possibly 4-5 minutes. This next chapter should introduce madara as the very final villain and the next 4 should be focused on defeating him fully. Kishi has the space in those pages to create a really good ending to a very boring war.

I think too that they will have share to deal with Madara along the tree yet, but we have to know surely about Obito's status next chapter. It all depends on how Obito is doing and will be doing next chapter as in if Obito will still be for like one or two chapters more before dealing with Madara.


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Posted 16 October 2013 - 07:23 PM

You know it's possible that all the villains are defeated at the end of the volume and the aftermath like Sasuke betraying everyone and the Hokages leavening (depending if Orochimaru lets them) will be whatever chapters are left for the year for the aftermath.

Well, this arc does seem to likely end before the new year. Well, this should be reassuring for many. Now we can all hope for the next arc to be more "personal" which means smaller focus, fun time. I can't blame them, I mean we been here for more than 3 years. We probably forgot on how Naruto works by this point, so when going back, we'll be like "Oh yeah, it was more simple. I like it." My only concern is how the scale would be like for the next arc. Will it really be done in private manner or the world would be watching.



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Posted 16 October 2013 - 08:22 PM

I think this chapter was good for Sakura. At least people from other forums  is actually glad she didn't participate  and be one of Naruto's clones. As for the whole friendship thing I believe there will be a chapter based on love which will be Focused on Team 7 and Team Minato. It's funny people were saying Naruto loves Hinata yet kishi put her with the Friendship group. Oh well.



 


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Posted 16 October 2013 - 08:40 PM

Agh, that "What could've been" moment.... It hit me right here,  :love:



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Posted 16 October 2013 - 09:00 PM

I think this chapter was good for Sakura. At least people from other forums  is actually glad she didn't participate  and be one of Naruto's clones. As for the whole friendship thing I believe there will be a chapter based on love which will be Focused on Team 7 and Team Minato. It's funny people were saying Naruto loves Hinata yet kishi put her with the Friendship group. Oh well.

It's funny because the reaction in here is certainly different. Maybe here we gathered many different critic that is on fence on it. Eh, that's just the way it is, so I'm not complaining. Yeah, I know what you mean about her. At this point, I don't even care anymore, especially pairing war. Just here sipping tea.

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Posted 16 October 2013 - 09:17 PM

I think this chapter was good for Sakura. At least people from other forums  is actually glad she didn't participate  and be one of Naruto's clones. As for the whole friendship thing I believe there will be a chapter based on love which will be Focused on Team 7 and Team Minato. It's funny people were saying Naruto loves Hinata yet kishi put her with the Friendship group. Oh well.

 

Do the majority online don't like the "nakama power" thing?  I actually liked it.  If people were expecting something more realistic, they obviously forgotten what genre this manga is.  Not that I don't understand the concerns, but still.

 

It's funny because the reaction in here is certainly different. Maybe here we gathered many different critic that is on fence on it. Eh, that's just the way it is, so I'm not complaining. Yeah, I know what you mean about her. At this point, I don't even care anymore, especially pairing war. Just here sipping tea.

 

There is always a counterargument to everything.  I can see the counterargument being, "well at least, unlike Sakura, Hinata was apart of the attack", and actually believe that matters.



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Posted 16 October 2013 - 09:48 PM

There is always a counterargument to everything.  I can see the counterargument being, "well at least, unlike Sakura, Hinata was apart of the attack", and actually believe that matters.

But when Sakura's attack comes, she won't be one part of it, she'll be the whole part. :unsure: She's a main character, so I wouldn't hold it against Hinata in any way. But the argument is still lost.

 

And are people really giving the creds to the rookies? Naruto should get all of it, it did not display their skill in anyway because the efforts were pretty much one-sided.

 

I don't hate the scene, but I think that if Kishi wanted to highlight the power of friendship he could've just let the rookies say something(maybe they coud've replace Kakashi's inner speech?), because they simply acted as Naruto's puppets. I still like the symbolic meaning though; Naruto has all his friends with him and that's why he's the winner. Obito is running solo, he lost because he shut everyone out. Looking back at Itachi's words, I think there is a connection and this is what he meant..


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Posted 16 October 2013 - 09:53 PM

Chapter was ok, I'm really glad Sakura was still healing along side with Tsunade instead of rasenganing Obito just like the rest of the K9.
On a side because seeing all of them gaining the cloak and all made me laugh; on the other side because it was shown that her importance is far different from theirs, as healer/medic and as more than a comrade/friend to Naruto.

Haters can kitten as much as they want, but they have to start to accept that she has a different role in the war and in Naruto's life aswell, and I'm sure Kishimoto is going to prove that soon, perhaps next week.

Today's chapter made me really positive of this thought, even though I'm sure this is not going to be The end of Obito yet. Since the chapter was friendship centred, I liked how Obito imagined a scenario where he would accept Rin's sacrifice and death with the help and support of his friends. He would still persue his dream of becoming Hokage no matter what. Maybe next week we will see the scenario he imagined in his dreamworld, were Rin is alive, hopefully.

Now that I think about it, has Obito ever noticed Sakura before? I always wondered why when the K9 joined the battle she has always been portrayed in the background, sorta like "hidden" from the scene for a while. Other characters shined when Obito was present on the battlefield, but right after him and Kakashi leave the scene, Sakura emerges and takes the spotlight. She even releases the seal and works along side Naruto and Sasuke, which would have catch Obito's attention if he only was present. Right after he comes back, she is already on another side of the battlefield away from her teammates. This chapter also suggests this theory.
There must be a reason why Kishimoto is doing this. I really hope it will be explained in the following chapters.

Edited by LadyGT, 16 October 2013 - 09:55 PM.

 
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Posted 16 October 2013 - 10:03 PM

 

Do the majority online don't like the "nakama power" thing?  I actually liked it.  If people were expecting something more realistic, they obviously forgotten what genre this manga is.  Not that I don't understand the concerns, but still.

 

 

There is always a counterargument to everything.  I can see the counterargument being, "well at least, unlike Sakura, Hinata was apart of the attack", and actually believe that matters.

They definitely hated it. Only a few people or fans of the K11 minus Sakura liked it. But  majority hated it. I'm indifferent towards it. I don't like that Naruto can easily give his power out like that... It seems cheesy to me, I believe it could have been executed better but I'm glad that we are finally getting somewhere.  On a sidenote: Does anyone else think that Naruto giving out his chakra like that made his chakra control way better?

 

Bolded 2: That was another issue....They were saying Naruto(series)  is becoming childish and Disney like or I should say Fairy Tail like.


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Posted 16 October 2013 - 10:27 PM

But when Sakura's attack comes, she won't be one part of it, she'll be the whole part. :unsure: She's a main character, so I wouldn't hold it against Hinata in any way. But the argument is still lost.

 

And are people really giving the creds to the rookies? Naruto should get all of it, it did not display their skill in anyway because the efforts were pretty much one-sided.

 

I don't hate the scene, but I think that if Kishi wanted to highlight the power of friendship he could've just let the rookies say something(maybe they coud've replace Kakashi's inner speech?), because they simply acted as Naruto's puppets. I still like the symbolic meaning though; Naruto has all his friends with him and that's why he's the winner. Obito is running solo, he lost because he shut everyone out. Looking back at Itachi's words, I think there is a connection and this is what he meant..

 

Will she get an attack though?  I mean she is grounded in support right now.  Depends on what happens next.  Is Obito truly defeated?  What was his attack form?  The sword and shield maybe.

 

I don't think so, everywhere I go.  People say Naruto could have done the same thing by himself.  He doesn't even need clones.  He launched a Rasengan through the Kurama's tail before.

 

You mean like Ed vs. Homuculus, with everyone cheering him on.  I have to admit that I got major feels from watching that.  It really set the mood.  Itachi's words could be inferred, but I have a feeling we'll only get confirmation of a flashback when dealing with Sasuke, as like Obito, he too wants nothing to do with bonds and will do everything himself out of his own sense of "justice".

 

 

They definitely hated it. Only a few people or fans of the K11 minus Sakura liked it. But  majority hated it. I'm indifferent towards it. I don't like that Naruto can easily give his power out like that... It seems cheesy to me, I believe it could have been executed better but I'm glad that we are finally getting somewhere.  On a sidenote: Does anyone else think that Naruto giving out his chakra like that made his chakra control way better?

 

Bolded 2: That was another issue....They were saying Naruto(series)  is becoming childish and Disney like or I should say Fairy Tail like.

 

Well, the comments online give new meaning to the phrase "everyone's a critic".  On the threads of Naruto and Bleach chapters on animesuki's forum, most of them who comment have nothing good to say.  Granted, it's only like 7 or 8 total who are mostly on there, but still.

 

Naruto is a manga for middle school boys.  We can't have too many adult things on it.  Really, what are people expecting?  The majority of complainers don't know what they want, just that they don't want what's actually happened. Shhhs, you just can't please some people.

 

Sorry, if this sounds like a rant, but I've just seen so much negativity around these subjects for a long time now.


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Posted 16 October 2013 - 10:52 PM

Well Naruto at this point has one of those unpleasable fanbases now.



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Posted 16 October 2013 - 11:08 PM

Chapter was ok, I'm really glad Sakura was still healing along side with Tsunade instead of rasenganing Obito just like the rest of the K9.
On a side because seeing all of them gaining the cloak and all made me laugh; on the other side because it was shown that her importance is far different from theirs, as healer/medic and as more than a comrade/friend to Naruto.

Haters can b*tch as much as they want, but they have to start to accept that she has a different role in the war and in Naruto's life aswell, and I'm sure Kishimoto is going to prove that soon, perhaps next week.

Today's chapter made me really positive of this thought, even though I'm sure this is not going to be The end of Obito yet. Since the chapter was friendship centred, I liked how Obito imagined a scenario where he would accept Rin's sacrifice and death with the help and support of his friends. He would still persue his dream of becoming Hokage no matter what. Maybe next week we will see the scenario he imagined in his dreamworld, were Rin is alive, hopefully.

Now that I think about it, has Obito ever noticed Sakura before? I always wondered why when the K9 joined the battle she has always been portrayed in the background, sorta like "hidden" from the scene for a while. Other characters shined when Obito was present on the battlefield, but right after him and Kakashi leave the scene, Sakura emerges and takes the spotlight. She even releases the seal and works along side Naruto and Sasuke, which would have catch Obito's attention if he only was present. Right after he comes back, she is already on another side of the battlefield away from her teammates. This chapter also suggests this theory.
There must be a reason why Kishimoto is doing this. I really hope it will be explained in the following chapters.

 

Whenever I read comments on Naruto chapter review videos they are always so stupid, I mean the ones posted by haters like literally they must be getting fan fiction mixed up with the manga or something lol

 

I also really liked the whole Obito imagination, was really cool seeing what his life would have possibly been like had he not gone beserk and sided with Madara. This is like one of the most interesting scenarios because maybe had he returned to the village, Naruto would have still had his parents, the Uchiha clan may not have been eliminated either. I guess we wouldn't have much of a story if that had happened though... Oh  it would be awesome if we got to see what Obito would envision his life like in the Infinite Tsukiyomi would also like to see Naruto, Sakura and Sasuke's AU aswell.

 

Obito not being around when Sakura shined is something I did not think of but there could be some sort of reasoning behind it or maybe just a coincidence. Also when she did the speech while healing Naruto I'm sure that would have triggered a big response from Obito had he been there or heard her. Either way it could some sort of foreshadowing of Obito/Rin parallel. I hope Sakura does not get severely injured or anything though. How do you think he would notice her btw?


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Posted 16 October 2013 - 11:15 PM

You know I think I'm starting to get the focus of this volume, it's solely focuses on Obito being TNJ as much as I hate to see it, but that seems to be the case. Another thing is that this volume so far is only focusing on Naruto and Obito heck even Minato's pushed to the side now. Also judging by what's happened in this chapter it seems like the Sakura/Rin parallel will arriving soon, although I don't wanna get my hopes up too high.  


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Posted 16 October 2013 - 11:24 PM

 

Do the majority online don't like the "nakama power" thing?  I actually liked it.  If people were expecting something more realistic, they obviously forgotten what genre this manga is.  Not that I don't understand the concerns, but still.

 

 

There is always a counterargument to everything.  I can see the counterargument being, "well at least, unlike Sakura, Hinata was apart of the attack", and actually believe that matters.

I think I finally realized what people really wanted. The funny thing is that long time ago, I could have sworn that people want others to do stuff, but now, I realized it's more like others should step back and stop taking the time away. I don't know which one is it.

 

I couldn't care less of a counterargument, so long the message was done here.

 

But when Sakura's attack comes, she won't be one part of it, she'll be the whole part. :unsure: She's a main character, so I wouldn't hold it against Hinata in any way. But the argument is still lost.

 

And are people really giving the creds to the rookies? Naruto should get all of it, it did not display their skill in anyway because the efforts were pretty much one-sided.

 

I don't hate the scene, but I think that if Kishi wanted to highlight the power of friendship he could've just let the rookies say something(maybe they coud've replace Kakashi's inner speech?), because they simply acted as Naruto's puppets. I still like the symbolic meaning though; Naruto has all his friends with him and that's why he's the winner. Obito is running solo, he lost because he shut everyone out. Looking back at Itachi's words, I think there is a connection and this is what he meant..

Actually, your post made me see differently on you guys' perspectives. That is true that these rookies came in and just did a push, but not really do anything with their own power. I guess I can see why.

 

You know, that is the reason why I didn't get the greatness of it. These characters were there to do a push and that's it. No Majin Buu final moment, with everyone telling Goku to end this now, no real end, or at least I hoping not. Well, there is Madara, so not all hope is lost for now. I guess that's why I hope this is not the end, which is not in terms of war, but Obito is unknown for time being. I mean the symbolic meaning was addressed nicely, so that's good. I just want the final attack to be, "It all ends NOW!!!" but again, we do have Madara, so yeah. I guess that's why I always appreciated One Piece to make the end of one long battle feels heavily meaningful. Then again, Naruto (series) meaningful lies on one last talk, not one last attack, but we'll see.

 

Chapter was ok, I'm really glad Sakura was still healing along side with Tsunade instead of rasenganing Obito just like the rest of the K9.
On a side because seeing all of them gaining the cloak and all made me laugh; on the other side because it was shown that her importance is far different from theirs, as healer/medic and as more than a comrade/friend to Naruto.

Haters can b*tch as much as they want, but they have to start to accept that she has a different role in the war and in Naruto's life aswell, and I'm sure Kishimoto is going to prove that soon, perhaps next week.

Today's chapter made me really positive of this thought, even though I'm sure this is not going to be The end of Obito yet. Since the chapter was friendship centred, I liked how Obito imagined a scenario where he would accept Rin's sacrifice and death with the help and support of his friends. He would still persue his dream of becoming Hokage no matter what. Maybe next week we will see the scenario he imagined in his dreamworld, were Rin is alive, hopefully.

Now that I think about it, has Obito ever noticed Sakura before? I always wondered why when the K9 joined the battle she has always been portrayed in the background, sorta like "hidden" from the scene for a while. Other characters shined when Obito was present on the battlefield, but right after him and Kakashi leave the scene, Sakura emerges and takes the spotlight. She even releases the seal and works along side Naruto and Sasuke, which would have catch Obito's attention if he only was present. Right after he comes back, she is already on another side of the battlefield away from her teammates. This chapter also suggests this theory.
There must be a reason why Kishimoto is doing this. I really hope it will be explained in the following chapters.

This. I made a joke post on that situation. Here:

 

 

You know, it's rather odd that everytime Sakura does something, Obito isn't presence and when I say that, I mean someone who sticks out a lot. I mean the summoning back in 633 would have alerted Obito that she's a strong medic, so he would have reacted and possibly attack her, which well you take it off from there. I mean let's see.

 

Chapter 609

Naruto: Sakura-chan, Kakashi...

Sakura: I know.

Obito: Hm, I thought there was someone approaching to Naruto. Oh well, false alarm. Just some Hyuuga girl that I got no connection in my past, so moving on...

 

Chapter 636

Obito: Oh, Naruto and Sasuke are trying to kill the beast. Good thing, there's no medic with them in front line, that would be awkward for me. Luckily, I came in time. Not like I miss a speech from possible lover for Naruto or anything significant. Ok, time to become an jinchuuriki.

 

Chapter 637

Obito: Oh hey, it's Minato-sensei. I'll be damned. Wow, what's next, Naruto got a lover that is similar to mine? Haha.....that would drive me insane...

 

Chapter 650

Obito: I should go attack mode. I'm sure there's no same age best friend of Naruto who is a medic that will help all of these fools. Because once I go to attack mode, I won't focus on anything else and just focus on Naruto and that traitor Sasuke.

 

I really wonder if it's coincidence. We'll see.

 

They definitely hated it. Only a few people or fans of the K11 minus Sakura liked it. But  majority hated it. I'm indifferent towards it. I don't like that Naruto can easily give his power out like that... It seems cheesy to me, I believe it could have been executed better but I'm glad that we are finally getting somewhere.  On a sidenote: Does anyone else think that Naruto giving out his chakra like that made his chakra control way better?

 

Bolded 2: That was another issue....They were saying Naruto(series)  is becoming childish and Disney like or I should say Fairy Tail like.

Well, no one would have been dead if going by Fairy Tail. Lol. I'm kidding, but not really. Seriously, well this is the first time that this series tackles on the friendship, rather than a constant theme throughout the series, so it feels odd to many today. I don't blame them. At the very least, it's not done in a way where it just happens because it just did. Naruto at least give an explanation or a tool that makes the scene work, whether it's dumb or not. For whatever reason, adventure manga seems to have this problem with people just get new power out of blue or one excuse can win them all. I'm still bothered by One Piece Enies Lobby arc. It was all around great but the fight result begs the differ. Anyway, no more off-topic, the point is at least it has the tool to make it rather than, "Well, when can they do that?"

 

 

Will she get an attack though?  I mean she is grounded in support right now.  Depends on what happens next.  Is Obito truly defeated?  What was his attack form?  The sword and shield maybe.

 

I don't think so, everywhere I go.  People say Naruto could have done the same thing by himself.  He doesn't even need clones.  He launched a Rasengan through the Kurama's tail before.

 

You mean like Ed vs. Homuculus, with everyone cheering him on.  I have to admit that I got major feels from watching that.  It really set the mood.  Itachi's words could be inferred, but I have a feeling we'll only get confirmation of a flashback when dealing with Sasuke, as like Obito, he too wants nothing to do with bonds and will do everything himself out of his own sense of "justice".

 

 

 

Well, the comments online give new meaning to the phrase "everyone's a critic".  On the threads of Naruto and Bleach chapters on animesuki's forum, most of them who comment have nothing good to say.  Granted, it's only like 7 or 8 total who are mostly on there, but still.

 

Naruto is a manga for middle school boys.  We can't have too many adult things on it.  Really, what are people expecting?  The majority of complainers don't know what they want, just that they don't want what's actually happened. Shhhs, you just can't please some people.

 

Sorry, if this sounds like a rant, but I've just seen so much negativity around these subjects for long time now.

I couldn't agree more. Though to be fair with others, part of me don't want "High five! ending." I want an ending that says, "Well we won, but it's still a total lost in friends, families..." God knows how much I got those currently in recent mangas, so don't fail me, Kishi. Have a realistic moral. It's like in that movie vs. remake. One has a really happy ending, the remake has a realistic outcome that shows mixed feelings of happiness and depression.

 

Well Naruto at this point has one of those unpleasable fanbases now.

No question asked.


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Posted 16 October 2013 - 11:25 PM

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Posted 16 October 2013 - 11:27 PM

You know I think I'm starting to get the focus of this volume, it's solely focuses on Obito being TNJ as much as I hate to see it, but that seems to be the case. Another thing is that this volume so far is only focusing on Naruto and Obito heck even Minato's pushed to the side now. Also judging by what's happened in this chapter it seems like the Sakura/Rin parallel will arriving soon, although I don't wanna get my hopes up too high.  

That may be the case, but it's so early to be done now if the theme is that. That means we are just near close to TnJ success. One more to tackle: accepting Rin's fate or explore on Rin all in all.



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Posted 16 October 2013 - 11:30 PM

Guys, remember, we're not supposed to talk about the opinions of other forums, sites, etc.

We didn't post any links or anything we are just discussing fanbases  and the chapter really. I don't see any bashing or anything soo I think it is all good. I think..


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Posted 17 October 2013 - 12:16 AM

 

Do the majority online don't like the "nakama power" thing?  I actually liked it.  If people were expecting something more realistic, they obviously forgotten what genre this manga is.  Not that I don't understand the concerns, but still.

 

 

There is always a counterargument to everything.  I can see the counterargument being, "well at least, unlike Sakura, Hinata was apart of the attack", and actually believe that matters.

It was lame, i have nothing against nakama power but they should had break the barrier with their powers not Naruto, Naruto acknowledged everyone has strong but at every turn he feels the need to give them powerup and babysit them, glady he's not babysitting Sakura here, the only thing i see here is that he deeply acknowledges that Sakura is strong different than he did with Hinata, called her strong but when she showed up alongside Neji and her father he suddenly got surprised why she was standing among them.


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