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[Liu bie]

Been traveling so I haven't had a chance to properly post but I'll put it like this: A storm is coming.

 

Sasuke is playing everyone for a sucker and soon his true plans shall be revealed. It was obviously building up towards it ever since Juugo's comment about Sasuke a few chapters back. This is actually the music that went through my head in the last pages, the beginning part at least:

 

 

I don't know shy some people don't like the prospect of Sasuke going dark again, it's in his character and I absolutely love it. Sasuke's way of doing things have always been on the dark path, even when he thought he was imparting justice.

 

I'm telling you this is Sasuke's foundation for the start of his Uchiha Empire. He's so bad he doesn't even mind using other people evil songs for it:

 

 

@Chatte

 

That's an interesting take in regards to Sakura noticing Sasuke's darkness. I just get the feeling certain others might conclude that just reinforces how Sakura is Sasuke's true love or something. There's always gotta be an SS spin in anything that relates to what Sakura thinks of Sasuke.

You forget to put Anaki's betraya track.

 I like the prospect that Sasuke going dark, even some people say rumors that Sakura will confess again, but I do not like of some comments say that Sakura would try to pretend to take side with Sasuke again.

[arian_rad]

You forget to put Anaki's betraya track.
 I like the prospect that Sasuke going dark, even some people say rumors that Sakura will confess again, but I do not like of some comments say that Sakura would try to pretend to take side with Sasuke again.

I find it impossible for sakura to confess again, her emotions have been dimming more and more lately and are nowhere near as strong as they were in part 1. She said it herself that sasuke keeps getting further and further away. She wasn't lying. As for the confession, there is no way she would do it when Naruto of all is standing right there and Minato who thinks they are dating are overlooking them both. It would just not be a good look, unless sakura is planning something to get into sasuke's head, I just don't see it happening at all.

[Tsuki Hoshino]

You forget to put Anaki's betraya track.

 I like the prospect that Sasuke going dark, even some people say rumors that Sakura will confess again, but I do not like of some comments say that Sakura would try to pretend to take side with Sasuke again.

There is no way on this planet or the next that Sakura would confess again, ploy or not.

Sasuke would know in an INSTANT that she was lying and it would get her nowhere just like the last time. 

Secondly, anyone who says Sakura is going to confess her love for Sasuke and that they'll run off together while Naruto looks on...is a supporter of character UNdevelopement and should be ignored. It would just destroy everything Sakura has become by this point. Only someone who absolutely hated her and felt threatened by her would wish for that to happen.  

Edited by Tsuki Hoshino, 13 June 2013 - 01:14 PM.

[T XD]

Sakura confessing as ploy... She did that before and she won't do that again. It doesn't fit in the story now.

Edited by T XD, 13 June 2013 - 02:02 PM.

[Don-kun]

I think we should stop dragging the dead horse in our conversation, most of us already new that Sakura was the first one who noticed Sasuke's path, but this time is different since Sasuke is not his part one self he has not make Amen to his deeds and there is no influence that is guiding him to take bad decisions plus Juugo noticed something ass well as Sai and now we are speculating that Sakura might also do but if she does who can blame her when he betray them in the past and almost try to kill her twice not too long ago?

 

One thing is for sure Sakura could be thinking about Tsunade or she could be thinking about Sai and Juugo conversation not her intuition anyone trying to make their assumption fact is just bs and worst coming from thoughts of Sasuke smirking at Sakura meaning that he is in love with her.

 

So for once it would be nice if we focus more on our thoughts and not on biased thoughts that constantly distort the Manga to fit a pairing.

 

All sides are biased but at lease most of us don't ignore stuff that doesn't help our pairing, see stuff that aren't there or ignore the other side feelings or possible feelings because it might not look good for our pairing.  This isn't at anyone but I hate reading biased argument and to avoid the discussion becoming bashing other fandom is better to ignore what they say in a way that we will be happy and the Mods will also be happy.

Edited by Don-kun, 13 June 2013 - 02:50 PM.

[Chatte]

But my idea was not pairing related, necessarily. My idea was about Sakura as a character and her development throughout the manga, as in compared to her part 1. Sorry if I wasn't too clear about that...

[ramenanmitsu]

I was looking back at the posts and I see many people say Sakura is not on the same level as Sasuke and Naruto because of her lack of offensive capabilities. 

 

Well, I would just like to point out that if she had the same level of offensive capabilities as Naruto and Sasuke, that would not make her at the same level with them. It would make her higher. 

 

What makes Naruto and Sasuke strong are their offensive capabilities. What makes Sakura strong is her defensive capabilities. They are strong in two different ways. Naruto's speed and power, Sasuke's wide range of powerful attacks makes it hard for the enemies to defeat them. Whereas in Sakura's case, it's her superior healing abilities that makes her undefeatable. Poisons, blade through the stomach are all enough to kill an average shinobi. The thing is we can't kill Sakura with these since she can easily heal them. And assuming that she can use the Byakugo no jutsu (since she is fighting), she can regenerate any organs or lost body parts. Basically, you can't kill Sakura in the battlefield. (With a few exceptions, such as "jinton")

 

Naruto, Sasuke, and Sakura are unbeatable in battle in their own way. 

Edited by ramenanmitsu, 13 June 2013 - 03:12 PM.

[Dkey]

I was looking back at the posts and I see many people say Sakura is not on the same level as Sasuke and Naruto because of her lack of offensive capabilities. 
 
Well, I would just like to point out that if she had the same level of offensive capabilities as Naruto and Sasuke, that would not make her at the same level with them. It would make her higher. 
 
What makes Naruto and Sasuke strong are their offensive capabilities. What makes Sakura strong is her defensive capabilities. They are strong in two different ways. Naruto's speed and power, Sasuke's wide range of powerful attacks makes it hard for the enemies to defeat them. Whereas in Sakura's case, it's her superior healing abilities that makes her undefeatable. Poisons, blade through the stomach are all enough to kill an average shinobi. The thing is we can't kill Sakura with these since she can easily heal them. And assuming that she can use the Byakugo no jutsu (since she is fighting), she can regenerate any organs or lost body parts. Basically, you can't kill Sakura in the battlefield. (With a few exceptions, such as "jinton")
 
Naruto, Sasuke, and Sakura are unbeatable in battle in their own way. 

Well as I see her ability wise she has yet shown any defensive ability on par with Sasuke and Naruto. They have susanoo and the kyuubi cloak but Sakura's defense is quick healing.

In this chapter she didn't contribute directly to the attack she healed and restored the other's strength a feat that strategically can be valuable in the next chapters. Yes this remote healing can be used as a defense but it wasn't used for that purpose. As some stated somewhat disapointed this chapter she healed not fought but I don't see it as negatively as others.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Well, all I know from reactions for little I can get(I don't lurk), it seems like SS is turning to orange zone, between yellow and red zone. I won't go further details on it, since this is not the best place to talk about it. All I can say in manga wise, the fact that no apology, no rescue bridal style (go with it), and real talk between them, really hurts the whole pairing itself. In fact, I'm starting to believe that 632 is what Kishi wanted to do and then say, "Sakura, you got romance issue to deal with, but having Sasuke around is not needed, so I'll let you handle it from there on." Pretty much, she going to deal with it on her own, not needing to talk anyone. In fact, I got something to share. Meet me in H&E debate thread.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 13 June 2013 - 04:00 PM.

[Phantom_999]

Well like I said If she can apply her medical knowledge and apply it to battle that will make her an even deadlier force. Plus that would not be an ass-pull  power up that she gets out of the blue and will make her an utter badass in her own right with out needing those fancy story breaking power ups. Imagine it; A ninja that can kill with surgical precision and as well as having super strength. I'd like it if she can use that knowledge to absorb chakra or destroy organic tissue.

Edited by Phantom_999, 13 June 2013 - 04:45 PM.

[T XD]

Well like I said If she can apply her medical knowledge and apply it to battle that will make her an even deadlier force. Plus that would not be an ass-pull  power up that she gets out of the blue and will make her an utter badass in her own right with out needing those fancy story breaking power ups. Imagine it; A ninja that can kill with surgical precision and as well as having super strength. I'd like it if she can use that knowledge to absorb chakra or destroy organic tissue.

I really think that we'll see her somewhat like that when she battles furthermore in the upcoming chapters. Byakugou has offensive abilities and with her strength, she would show a great force. Not to mention that maybe she has Slug Sage Mode.

[Chatte]

Well as I see her ability wise she has yet shown any defensive ability on par with Sasuke and Naruto. They have susanoo and the kyuubi cloak but Sakura's defense is quick healing.

In this chapter she didn't contribute directly to the attack she healed and restored the other's strength a feat that strategically can be valuable in the next chapters. Yes this remote healing can be used as a defense but it wasn't used for that purpose. As some stated somewhat disapointed this chapter she healed not fought but I don't see it as negatively as others.

Susano'o at the level of offensiveness she has shown, it's breakable. What's Naruto's defense besides his Kyuubi cloak which I don't fairly think it has the power to take one of Sakura's punch?

Both Naruto and Sasuke have strong offensiveness, however, their bodies are weak compared to hers which she can regenerate.

Sasuke from too much usage of the Susano'o needed Karin's healing as well as Naruto from too much Kyuubi cloak.

Whereas Sakura doesn't need that because with her medical expertise, well... problem solved.

They really are balanced...however, meh, no one will take this into consideration.
The only thing as I said, I see killing her would be either Amaterasu and undeniably Jinton.
However, with the speed she has shown lately, she'd give the guys a run for their money.

[Atheck]

One of the primary skills that any medical ninja is instilled with is sufficient evasive capabilities so that their survival against the enemy may be maximized if they placed directly into a combat situation. Despite her growth over the years Sakura still has quite a ways to go. She still occasionally allows people or unrelated events that are occurring nearby to divert her attention when she is in the midst of a battle. With the exclusion of requiring a method or ability to somehow accurately deliver her attacks Sakura requires better discipline; she shouldn't allow anything to deter her away from her opponent. This is one particular reason why sage sensing would be a tremendous benefit to Sakura. It would allow her to maintain constant observation of the battlefield and of any nearby chakra sources regardless of whether she is actively looking around or not; this provides her with ample time and the necessary information to prepare for an attack. Not only that, since SM does greatly enhance physical attributes she could much more easily close the distance between herself and an opponent through the increase provided to her speed.

 

Sadly, it's a mystery whether Sakura actually has SM or not but considering her innate ability to efficiently mould her chakra and precise implementation of it into her jutsu being able to draw in the natural energy around her and then balance it with her spiritual and physical energy. If anyone should be capable of compensating the necessitated quantity of chakra for senjutsu with quality it would be Sakura. Also it would help to distinguish herself from her teacher by centring her abilities around avoiding her opponent's attacks and then delivering a single devastating attack rather than simply tanking every attack, regenerating from it, and then overwhelming her foe thanks to the longevity of her seal. The latter was never a part of Sakura's fighting style in the first place. She rarely is ever directly inflicted with any wounds; her style is focused on evasiveness and the conservation of her chakra for counterstrikes.

[Chatte]

OH kitten! I just realized something!

Sakura's healing capabilities now, is the same as Sozo Saisei.... Look at that guy's cut face... is similar to Tsunade's Sozo Saisei. Just look at that panel with that guy's cheeck and Tsunade when activates Sozo Saisei, it's the same damn thing.

Can't talk more now cause I gotta go but when I'll come back I'll explain.

Maaan, this is going to be big!

[TouKen4Life3g]

SS moment but not positive.
To me, this is where Sakura will draw the line, forever.

That's what I'm thinking as well. We got to wait and see. Also, I think if Kakashi was there, he would know right-a-way that Sasuke is bsing. Not sure yet for Naruto but there's a good chance he knows. Again, Kishi had rest of Team 7 to be away for a bit because they could ruin the moment. Sai showed up and now, Team 7 momentum is gone. Luckily, they did what they have to do. If Sai was in 631, he would make us not enjoy Team 7 reunion and teamwork, much like ignoring Sakura from Kyuubi's chakra sharing. I mean it's best to do that because it's like doing this:

Me: Woohoo! I won the lottery! *Hold a wine cup*
Friend: Yes, but 9/11 still happened.
Me: *throw the wine cup*

That's what Kishi does best. Hold the con of the moment.

[Canadian_DJ]

Quick remider: Sakuras slug is KATSUYU TSunades is KATSUYA. They're both completely different summonings, also sasukes and narutos.

Please oh god, dont let sasuke be up to no good! :(

[TouKen4Life3g]

Quick remider: Sakuras slug is KATSUYU TSunades is KATSUYA. They're both completely different summonings, also sasukes and narutos.

Please oh god, dont let sasuke be up to no good! :(

Wait, they are different then?

[Dkey]

Susano'o at the level of offensiveness she has shown, it's breakable. What's Naruto's defense besides his Kyuubi cloak which I don't fairly think it has the power to take one of Sakura's punch?

Both Naruto and Sasuke have strong offensiveness, however, their bodies are weak compared to hers which she can regenerate.

Sasuke from too much usage of the Susano'o needed Karin's healing as well as Naruto from too much Kyuubi cloak.

Whereas Sakura doesn't need that because with her medical expertise, well... problem solved.

They really are balanced...however, meh, no one will take this into consideration.
The only thing as I said, I see killing her would be either Amaterasu and undeniably Jinton.
However, with the speed she has shown lately, she'd give the guys a run for their money.

 

When I mean defense I refer to abilities that reduce the damage received or absorb/block them. Dodging and parring are defensive but that means you are avoiding the attack. Sakura if she gets hit she heals right back. As a whole if she heals and fights she will get exhausted but because of the seal that may not be the case anymore.

 

OH kitten! I just realized something!

Sakura's healing capabilities now, is the same as Sozo Saisei.... Look at that guy's cut face... is similar to Tsunade's Sozo Saisei. Just look at that panel with that guy's cheeck and Tsunade when activates Sozo Saisei, it's the same damn thing.

Can't talk more now cause I gotta go but when I'll come back I'll explain.

Maaan, this is going to be big!

You mean Sai's face? Whatever get back and explain.

[T XD]

Quick remider: Sakuras slug is KATSUYU TSunades is KATSUYA. They're both completely different summonings, also sasukes and narutos.

Please oh god, dont let sasuke be up to no good! :(

There's Katsuyu and Katsuya ? Are you sure ? I thought Katsuya was a typo from some...

[Kakashi-Sensei]

I think its the same Slug personally...