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#321 James S Cassidy

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Posted 27 May 2011 - 04:28 AM

I want to throw something out there.

What if the thought of Sasuke was only half the thought Sakura was thinking? She did get interrupted by The Neji clone and she snapped back to reality. So I wonder if it was only half of Sakura's thoughts and her wondering if Sasuke was a great guy. Like people have said.

What would happen if the next chapter or a later chapter finishes her thought. Maybe not of Naruto, but her finally getting over Sasuke.

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Posted 27 May 2011 - 04:34 AM

QUOTE (James S Cassidy @ May 27 2011, 05:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I want to throw something out there.

What if the thought of Sasuke was only half the thought Sakura was thinking? She did get interrupted by The Neji clone and she snapped back to reality. So I wonder if it was only half of Sakura's thoughts and her wondering if Sasuke was a great guy. Like people have said.

What would happen if the next chapter or a later chapter finishes her thought. Maybe not of Naruto, but her finally getting over Sasuke.

I think it was just a past thing. Like she was wrong to like a guy like that, but you might be on to something there....

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Posted 27 May 2011 - 06:03 AM

QUOTE (James S Cassidy @ May 27 2011, 05:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I want to throw something out there.

What if the thought of Sasuke was only half the thought Sakura was thinking? She did get interrupted by The Neji clone and she snapped back to reality. So I wonder if it was only half of Sakura's thoughts and her wondering if Sasuke was a great guy. Like people have said.

What would happen if the next chapter or a later chapter finishes her thought. Maybe not of Naruto, but her finally getting over Sasuke.


Interesting theory James-kun! That could be true. I'm gonna take a guess and say her image of Sasuke with Sharingan eyes and fire (if I remember right) in the background is not a happy one.

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Posted 27 May 2011 - 09:35 AM

Concerning the chapter: I wasn't really surprised because it would have been akward to admit her feelings for Naruto like this and so soon. It would have been a bit out of the blue according to me. She needs to think about it in deep before jumping to conclusion. And yet I think this panel where she remembers Sasuke is just a start. Her face doesn't look happy at all while thinking about him. When you're in love with someone you're not supposed to be sad or maybe even ashamed to love your precious someone. ( Now remember her face when she looks at a sleeping Naruto some chapters before, this is what can call a happy face, and also the reflection that she deeply cares for her blond teammate.)
Kishi wants to show us, as many of you already said, that she think Sasuke isn't a "great guy" after all. first steps of Sakura's character development. When you're in love, you're in the mood to scream the name of who you love everywhere and say how great he is ... and well we saw with this panel it's not the case.
I won't be too worried about this and I clearly was amazed by her action in this chapter. She really was the badass kunoichi we were all claiming to finally see again.

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Posted 27 May 2011 - 09:48 AM

QUOTE (celious @ May 27 2011, 11:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Concerning the chapter: I wasn't really surprised because it would have been akward to admit her feelings for Naruto like this and so soon. It would have been a bit out of the blue according to me. She needs to think about it in deep before jumping to conclusion. And yet I think this panel where she remembers Sasuke is just a start. Her face doesn't look happy at all while thinking about him. When you're in love with someone you're not supposed to be sad or maybe even ashamed to love your precious someone. ( Now remember her face when she looks at a sleeping Naruto some chapters before, this is what can call a happy face, and also the reflection that she deeply cares for her blond teammate.)
Kishi wants to show us, as many of you already said, that she think Sasuke isn't a "great guy" after all. first steps of Sakura's character development. When you're in love, you're in the mood to scream the name of who you love everywhere and say how great he is ... and well we saw with this panel it's not the case.
I won't be too worried about this and I clearly was amazed by her action in this chapter. She really was the badass kunoichi we were all claiming to finally see again.


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Posted 27 May 2011 - 12:10 PM

QUOTE (James S Cassidy @ May 26 2011, 08:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I want to throw something out there.

What if the thought of Sasuke was only half the thought Sakura was thinking? She did get interrupted by The Neji clone and she snapped back to reality. So I wonder if it was only half of Sakura's thoughts and her wondering if Sasuke was a great guy. Like people have said.

What would happen if the next chapter or a later chapter finishes her thought. Maybe not of Naruto, but her finally getting over Sasuke.


Sakura thinking for herself I'm done with you Sasuke because I really love Naruto that will be too good to be true Kishi loves to mess with the fandoms you should know that by now we can only hope that she resolves her feelings for Sasuke soon.
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Posted 27 May 2011 - 12:18 PM

We aren't going to know anything about these pairings until the very last page of the manga,probably the last sentence...So hang on to something heavy until then smile.gif

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Posted 27 May 2011 - 12:20 PM

QUOTE (Living Lavish @ May 27 2011, 01:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
im not being biased to say that is ignorant. i understand what your saying but you are not considering peoples opinions just influenced by biased people instead of the whats canon in story. take it from all angles is what im saying.

of course you missed everyones point. Naruto is the epitome of never giving up and he won't on Sakura. specially after Kushinas comment. kishi wouldn't just say she was be honest for nothing and not resolve the complicated relationship. he will come back to it very soon. Sakura will have to understand her feelings for Naruto and that will happen. I think that she's not quite sure how she really feels about Naruto, but she's prioritized him over Sasuke often enough to make me have trouble believing in the strength of her feelings for Sasuke. Sakura is the only person of the unrequited sides of the relationships (Naruto ->Sakura, Hinata->Naruto, and Sakura->Sasuke) that has shown any, let alone multiple, signs of having romantic feelings for the requited side of the relationship even tho shes not aware now.

Sakura said during the 2nd reunion that she ''team 7 will laugh together again'' thats what shes what kishi means by not giving up. really all they wan't is Team 7 back. after finding out Naruto loves her, you think shes just going to just accept sasuke when all of a sudden he loves her (OOC i might add and shallow)!and forget about everything shes been through with Naruto?
hell no.. that will disregard eveything that happend with NS, destroys Sakura character as well. thats impossible notion and completley ridiculious. NS is the only pairing i can see happening at the end no doubt.

if you are really a NS fan you gotta agree wit the last part. lol


Well, this site is made specifically for one pairing, so yeah, I'd say we're all really biased. I'm not being ignorant, I'm simply looking at the facts head-on.

Fact: she's thinking of Sasuke. It can be interpreted two ways. The first is the one we NSers have been saying. The second is that Sakura thinks of Sasuke because she wants to save him (and hopefully they'll fall in love). This the one SSers are going with.

I disagree about missing everyone's point. I clearly pointed how Naruto's never give up attitude could be passed on Sakura. If Sakura's going to have that never-give-up attitude of Naruto's pursuing Sasuke's love, then it just may very well work out. To be honest, I would actually hate it if Sasuke did a 180 on Sakura. But it's still a definite possibility, however small it is.

And another thing, I am considering everyone's opinions. But I'm also considering other pairings' ships opinions as well. I suggest you read my posts carefully next time. sleep.gif

QUOTE (celious @ May 27 2011, 04:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Concerning the chapter: I wasn't really surprised because it would have been akward to admit her feelings for Naruto like this and so soon. It would have been a bit out of the blue according to me. She needs to think about it in deep before jumping to conclusion. And yet I think this panel where she remembers Sasuke is just a start. Her face doesn't look happy at all while thinking about him. When you're in love with someone you're not supposed to be sad or maybe even ashamed to love your precious someone. ( Now remember her face when she looks at a sleeping Naruto some chapters before, this is what can call a happy face, and also the reflection that she deeply cares for her blond teammate.)
Kishi wants to show us, as many of you already said, that she think Sasuke isn't a "great guy" after all. first steps of Sakura's character development. When you're in love, you're in the mood to scream the name of who you love everywhere and say how great he is ... and well we saw with this panel it's not the case.
I won't be too worried about this and I clearly was amazed by her action in this chapter. She really was the badass kunoichi we were all claiming to finally see again.


Awkward?? she confessed to him months ago, and Kishi stated she was honest with her confession and now we get this??

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Posted 27 May 2011 - 12:55 PM

QUOTE (dfammer @ May 27 2011, 04:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We aren't going to know anything about these pairings until the very last page of the manga,probably the last sentence...So hang on to something heavy until then smile.gif


At least you're thinking positively now and not freaking out like you did when the spoilers were released kudos to you. happy.gif
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Posted 27 May 2011 - 02:30 PM

QUOTE (Codus N @ May 27 2011, 07:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, this site is made specifically for one pairing, so yeah, I'd say we're all really biased. I'm not being ignorant, I'm simply looking at the facts head-on.

Fact: she's thinking of Sasuke. It can be interpreted two ways. The first is the one we NSers have been saying. The second is that Sakura thinks of Sasuke because she wants to save him (and hopefully they'll fall in love). This the one SSers are going with.

I disagree about missing everyone's point. I clearly pointed how Naruto's never give up attitude could be passed on Sakura. If Sakura's going to have that never-give-up attitude of Naruto's pursuing Sasuke's love, then it just may very well work out. To be honest, I would actually hate it if Sasuke did a 180 on Sakura. But it's still a definite possibility, however small it is.

And another thing, I am considering everyone's opinions. But I'm also considering other pairings' ships opinions as well. I suggest you read my posts carefully next time. sleep.gif


I've said it before, but I think a lot of people are really jumping to conclusions with this one panel. As you said, the fact of the matter is she's thinking of Sasuke. And of course, SS fans are coming to the conclusion that she is thinking of him because she loves him and always will.
But here's the interesting part. After the Iron Country fight, SSers were taking Sakura's line about Squad 7 having a happy ending as a sign that she believes Sasuke will come back, and she had come terms with loving him. This panel clearly shows otherwise. Take it at face value, and she's distressed about having feelings for him. She's not thinking, "Sasuke-kun, I believe you are great deep down." or "I believe you can bring him back, Naruto." She's frowning, and thinking of an evil man, full of malice and hate.
So if we take it at face value, here's what we get: Sakura claims to love Sasuke, but she herself is bothered by it. So both NS are SS have been taken back a few steps. Sakura hasn't come terms with loving Naruto like we want, but she hasn't completely come to terms with loving Sasuke like SS wants. So basically, all this proves is that Sakura's previously established love for Sasuke is still there, but is causing her grief.
And like people have been saying earlier, some things should be taken at face value. Whether or not this one interrupted scene is one of those, I think it's too early to say. But let's go back a couple arcs to Yamato's unfinished sentence at the Tenchi Bridge. If we take that at face value, what is he implying? Either we should take everything at face value, or we should analyze everything. As a previous poster said, don't read the manga through a straw. This manga should be read while considering the broad context of these characters' relationships, which is what I think most of us here are doing, regardless of bias.
I do agree with your assessment, and there's nothing wrong with playing devil's advocate after scenes like this. It's just I personally believe one panel shouldn't really shake NS's foundation as much as people are acting like it has.

And of course, SS will always have a possiblity of happening. It's one of the reasons why shipping debates are so frustrating. Noone can prove anything as 100% fact on any side. For all we know, Naruto will marry Ino, Sakura will marry Lee, and Sasuke and Sai will get together.

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Posted 27 May 2011 - 02:45 PM

There's something I said about this chapter in NF:
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What I find weird is that Kishi, Idk if I'm correct, tried to kinda show the difference between Naruto and Sasuke... is something like this:
When Sakura thinks of Sasuke it's clearly making her weak but with Hinata, she has this strong look when she thinks of Naruto. I believe Kishi did this for another reason and not to confirm who the girls love/loved. I don't want to overanalyze this but Sasuke's image was kinda darker and Naruto's image is kinda lighter... what could it actually mean?

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Posted 27 May 2011 - 03:26 PM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ May 27 2011, 04:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sakura thinking for herself I'm done with you Sasuke because I really love Naruto that will be too good to be true Kishi loves to mess with the fandoms you should know that by now we can only hope that she resolves her feelings for Sasuke soon.


We all know that by now except for the people who get caught up in their fandom too much to really think about it. Us included, but to be honest no one really knows what this means except for Kishi himself.

Truth is, if you think about, it doesn't make sense no matter how you look at it.

You look at it face value, it doesn't make sense. Questions pop up. Why is Sakura upset by the thought? Sasuke is not a "great guy," and Sakura's thought of him is in this dark, menacing pose with a dark aura. Plus, why is this scene can only be seen at face value, yet all other moments (especially NS ones) everyone seems to want to find hidden missing against NS or never want to look at NS moments at face value. As we said, face value is not something Kishi does loosely. If it is face value, it would be "That's it, it's the end and it has become fact." So he wants us to look at this scene with cryptic imagery and tugs on all ropes to get people to read. Kishi is not stupid. We also have people deny what facts we do know like "Sasuke doesn't give a crap about everyone and wants to kill everyone." And this whole "Sasuke's being manipulated" thing is a wishing thinking that is not true.

However, some claim if we look deeper into the scene we are "over-analyzing." This is really impossible for Naruto manga because once again Kishi is not one for making things too easy to figure out and keeps leaving clues of hints of something. Usually by leaving thoughts, speeches, or anything half full. Like a cup of water. Heck, he has done things in this manga that none of us foresaw coming in a million years. I don't think we can ever over-analyze within reason. True, we can;t jump the gun due to our fandom but this goes for everyone

Right now, we are trying to hit a bull's-eye in a dark room. Some people want to try to figure out where it is by feeling the surroundings, while other just throw their darts hoping they hit the right answers. Sometimes they get extremely lucky. Most of the time, it fails.
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Posted 27 May 2011 - 03:58 PM

QUOTE (Codus N @ May 27 2011, 01:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, this site is made specifically for one pairing, so yeah, I'd say we're all really biased. I'm not being ignorant, I'm simply looking at the facts head-on.

Fact: she's thinking of Sasuke. It can be interpreted two ways. The first is the one we NSers have been saying. The second is that Sakura thinks of Sasuke because she wants to save him (and hopefully they'll fall in love). This the one SSers are going with.

I disagree about missing everyone's point. I clearly pointed how Naruto's never give up attitude could be passed on Sakura. If Sakura's going to have that never-give-up attitude of Naruto's pursuing Sasuke's love, then it just may very well work out. To be honest, I would actually hate it if Sasuke did a 180 on Sakura. But it's still a definite possibility, however small it is.

And another thing, I am considering everyone's opinions. But I'm also considering other pairings' ships opinions as well. I suggest you read my posts carefully next time. sleep.gif



Awkward?? she confessed to him months ago, and Kishi stated she was honest with her confession and now we get this??


your still not listening to anybodys opinion.

we know shes loves sasuke BUT she regrets it and doesn't like it
a great guy? was he ever to her? lol. thats the point. rolleyes.gif

SS is really not possiblilty you need to look at past development. Sasuke has NEVER shown to be interested in sakura for him to love her would be out of character. i agree with you on that.

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Posted 27 May 2011 - 04:41 PM

QUOTE (MangaReader @ May 26 2011, 11:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Other wise known as blind love "Love at first sight"


Blind love and love at first sight are really two different things.

Blind love is loving a person despite knowing about their flaws.

Love at first sight is literally seeing a person for the first time, and falling head over heels in love, without knowing whether the person is good or bad. Many times "love at first sight" actually turns out quite well for the couple in question (at least in romance tropes.)

Neither situation quite applies to Sakura/Sasuke - they went through the academy together as children. By the time we are introduced to the characters in the manga, they could have known each other for several months or even years. Once Sakura began to realize what sort of person Sasuke really is, she begins to fall out of love. If the Sakura of today was still mooning over Sasuke and denying what sort of monster he is, the "blind love" label would apply. But she's not, and hasn't been for some time.

I guess at one point it could have been a "blind love" but she's opened her eyes already.

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Posted 27 May 2011 - 04:53 PM

Something that that just came to me a few minutes ago is (Don't know if anyone mentioned this already, if you did I'm sorry) is that with what we see on the first page is probably the last piece on Sakura's growth as a character. She finally moving on, the last piece that will separate her truly from Part I Sakura from PartII Sakura. Anyway my opinion what do you think about it?

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Posted 27 May 2011 - 05:46 PM

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Just thought of something while replying to another thread. I know it might be a bit farfetched.
And I apologise in advance if somebody has already posted this theory, but I really did not have time to check previous posts.


Warning: Far fetched:

Sakura could have said "but there is someone..." just to politely refuse a random suitor from a different village.

Then the guy says "The person would be awesome if you're in love with him." The emphasis is on "you". This is clearly putting Sakura on a pedestral, and she clearly disagrees with it and thinks back to Sasuke thinking she is not really that great, that all her choices are always good.

This interpretation would imply that "current" love for Sasuke is not a necessity, she is just thinking that her choice is not necessarily good and thinks of Sasuke as just an example.

That would keep the things as they were for NS, without affecting Sakura's confession.


Hope that doesn't sound too stupid. Even I am not taking this theory seriousy


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Posted 27 May 2011 - 05:50 PM

QUOTE (Whirlpool-Maelstrom @ May 27 2011, 09:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Something that that just came to me a few minutes ago is (Don't know if anyone mentioned this already, if you did I'm sorry) is that with what we see on the first page is probably the last piece on Sakura's growth as a character. She finally moving on, the last piece that will separate her truly from Part I Sakura from PartII Sakura. Anyway my opinion what do you think about it?


Yes members have already stated that the panel in particular was the last sign of Sakura growing up and finally moving on. I doubt Kishi will show us a small hint in the next chapter but maybe in future chapters to come.
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Posted 27 May 2011 - 06:02 PM

I just wish Kishi does something to make all of us happy and destroys the "party" some have on next week's chapter, like Tsunade telling him something (like "how would Sakura feel knowing you're in possible danger") about Sakura and him remembering her.
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Fairy Tail: Erza, Happy, Natsu, Grey, Lucy, Gajeel
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Misc.: Linkin Park, Green Day


In between Anti and Pro: --Click here to view--

Pairings:
Naruto: NaruSakuHina, SakuHina, NaruTayu, KibaHina, SakuKarin
Bleach: IchiHime

Characters:
Naruto: Hinata, Tayuya, Karin, Itachi
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#339 MangaReader

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Posted 27 May 2011 - 06:12 PM

QUOTE (Catwho @ May 27 2011, 04:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Blind love and love at first sight are really two different things.

Blind love is loving a person despite knowing about their flaws.

Love at first sight is literally seeing a person for the first time, and falling head over heels in love, without knowing whether the person is good or bad. Many times "love at first sight" actually turns out quite well for the couple in question (at least in romance tropes.)

Neither situation quite applies to Sakura/Sasuke - they went through the academy together as children. By the time we are introduced to the characters in the manga, they could have known each other for several months or even years. Once Sakura began to realize what sort of person Sasuke really is, she begins to fall out of love. If the Sakura of today was still mooning over Sasuke and denying what sort of monster he is, the "blind love" label would apply. But she's not, and hasn't been for some time.

I guess at one point it could have been a "blind love" but she's opened her eyes already.

I'll give you the first two about blind love and love at first sight, I make mistakes too, just like everybody else...

But I think both can apply to Sakura's and Sasuke's situtation. Let's start off at the happy beginning, Sakura had love at first sight for a guy, as you put it, who was cool and handsome. This would continue on for many chapters till we hit the chunin exams in death forest. I believe it's here that it shifts to Blind Love. My reason for this is even after witnessing Sasuke break some guys arms and all the other crap he did afterwards, Sakura still continued to show loving qualities to the guy. This "Blind Love" I have to believe continued on till Sasuke joined Akatsuki, cause if you read the same manga I did, you could see she still had sometimes where she still seemed to hold that love for Sasuke. Of coarse I also believe at that time her love for Naruto grew more and more till it crossed the line of love that's to Sai. Which is why in chapter 470, we believe Sakura's love for Sasuke has finally demished. And with chapter 540 the theory, I know it's just a theory, is that's she's been reminded of her past love for someone(Sasuke), not her present one(Naruto)

Feel free to disagree, that's just the way I see after taking a Psychology class and other minor classes inbetween.

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#340 Yoshimoya

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Posted 27 May 2011 - 06:59 PM

Initially I didn't understand the theory that @Whirlpool brought up, but man, do I now... It leans a little towards wishful thinking, but it's so darn possible! Sakura has had a confidence issue when it comes to love, and her pondering on how her choice isn't always the best makes sense. When reading the manga the emphasis was on you (Sakura) and that must've lead Sakura to think about her past choices, rather than her CURRENT love. Because what the LoverNin was emphasizing that any choice of hers SHOULD be good because of her prominent stature. This would shine light on her confession and her as a character, because really, for Sakura to have hope to love (romantically) Sasuke would be, in my opinion, a major setback on her development and remind me of the naive Sakura part 1. However, Kishimoto would have to clear this up in an interview or make it very clear in the manga. It's pretty interesting.

Edited by Yoshimoya, 27 May 2011 - 07:06 PM.


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