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[Gravenimage]

I know a few posts back I asked if Sasuke knows Naruto loves Sakura; Now I've got another question. Does Hinata know, and understand that Naruto loves Sakura?

Not too long ago, Sakura schooled Hinata. She told her to have more faith in Naruto - because, frankly, she underestimated him. Think back to the Neji/Naruto fight. Same thing happened. She worried over him and even begged silently for him to give up, when she knows it's his Nindo.

Even after Sakura's lesson, Hinata underestimated Naruto, going so far as to try and play hero for him. (Does she think she's more capable than him? That sounds a little haughtier than Sakura.)

With Sakura's lesson and the hug, we see two instances where Hinata is shown how much closer to Naruto Sakura is than she is. Do you think she's finally learned?

That's right Hinata is not stupid by now she must know just like the rookie nine and the entire village that witnessed the" sibling hug " from 450 that Naruto loves Sakura and vice versa so she must know. They have to stop thinking that Hinata is the center of the universe and she's the only one who deserves to be happy. They are being melodramatic when they say that Hinata will be hurt, heartbroken because Naruto will be with Sakura that its not fair for her she's the one that deserves Naruto not Sakura. But the painful truth kicks in that Hinata is just a secondary character who is not important to the main story plot. I'm sorry to say this but I think Kishi could care less if Hinata ends up alone or not.

Edited by Gravenimage, 25 January 2010 - 05:11 PM.

[RedDelicious]

i think the smile told all.

That smile is very consistent with the idea that Hinata loves Naruto in a celebrity/idolization way, instead of in a personal romantic way. Kind of like when Brad Pitt got together with Jennifer Aniston (or Angelina, if you prefer), there were plenty of people sighing and swooning that these two pretty celebrities were together in public.

[firegirl]

speaking of hugs what do u guys think of the hug that sakura gave to naruto after she confessed in her side sakura looks rather confortable and had her head on his sholder?

[Strangelove]

They are being melodramatic when they say that Hinata will be hurt, heartbroken because Naruto will be with Sakura that its not fair for her she's the one that deserves Naruto not Sakura. But the painful truth kicks in that Hinata is just a secondary character who is not important to the main story plot. I'm sorry to say this but I think Kishi could care less if Hinata ends up alone or not. sleep.gif

If that was true, then why was she smiling when Sakura gave Naruto the so called NH fans how do they called it? Oh right the sibling hug, like you said. And her panel was different, it showed the dotted bubble...does this mean something was going through her mind?

NH fans may hate it...but it might be possible that Hinata might be the one to destroy her own romanticized fandom...

[Gravenimage]

speaking of hugs what do u guys think of the hug that sakura gave to naruto after she confessed in her side sakura looks rather confortable and had her head on his sholder?

Well in the real Kishi interview he said that the approach he made in the confession hug was romantic. Also Sakura's expression when she was hugging him was sincere she was telling him the truth not to mention she was blushing again. One N/H fan told me that she made herself blush so she could make it more convincing which I didn't know Naruto characters had the ability to blush at their own free will (blush no jutsu)

Strangelove@

I have said it before I believe Kishi made Hinata's confession to develop her character not so that Naruto return her feelings. It was about her letting go of her fan girl side and become a better person in which she did because she finally told Naruto how she feels about him. With her confession said I don't think Kishi has anymore use for Hinata, the only thing she has left is to become the leader of the Hyuga clan but he probably won't show that since Kishi lacks in the development of his secondary characters.

Edited by Gravenimage, 25 January 2010 - 07:07 PM.

[socermania2]

Well in the real Kishi interview he said that the approach he made in the confession hug was romantic. Also Sakura's expression when she was hugging him was sincere she was telling him the truth not to mention she was blushing again. One N/H fan told me that she made herself blush so she could make it more convincing which I didn't know Naruto characters had the ability to blush at their own free will (blush no jutsu)

Its a lie. It's just dirt

[Froot]

Its a lie. It's just dirt

Of course it's just dirt. She's got a jar full of it.

[socermania2]

Remember 469? She wasn't blushing there.

That was snow

Edited by socermania2, 26 January 2010 - 01:45 AM.

[Gravenimage]

Remember 469? She wasn't blushing there.

That was snow

Sakura was blushing at 469 when she told love him she loves him and when she hugged him too.

[Miss Soupy]

Sometimes I want to ask SS fans if they would ever let their daughter be with someone like Sasuke

[Froot]

I sure wouldn't. My god, the idea of that cold, selfish person having a child... I also wouldn't want my mother to be the kind of person who would let me get away with anything just 'cause my father thought it was funny.

[Gravenimage]

Sometimes I want to ask SS fans if they would ever let their daughter be with someone like Sasuke

I will rather see my daughter date the loser of the school than the selfish abusive emo most popular kid in school thank you very much.

[Miss Soupy]

I sure wouldn't. My god, the idea of that cold, selfish person having a child... I also wouldn't want my mother to be the kind of person who would let me get away with anything just 'cause my father thought it was funny.

Yeaaah, I don't think any responsible person would want someone they love to be with a person like Sasuke. Or at least they shouldn't. I was reading the 'Would Sasuke be abusive to his wife?' thread over at NF, which made me think of it, mostly because Sasuke is defended so much. While I don't think he would be abusive, I still wouldn't try to argue everything he has done can be blamed on Itachi and that he would be a good husband. Him being a jerk isn't an excuse either. And how does him being a jerk make him a better person? Where he might not be abusive level, he is still cold and uncaring (unarguably, at the moment), which is really bad in of itself. I have also noticed a correlation amongst some fans that support Sasuke and therefore hate/blame Itachi. As if Itachi alone is the sole bearer of blame for what Sasuke has become and therefore Sasuke should just be forgiven. Which, Sasuke himself speaks of his own choices. He clearly knew what he was giving up and still chose to do it. He does not lose free will because he had a horrible life.

Edited by Miss Soupy, 26 January 2010 - 04:06 AM.

[Froot]

Oh, yeah, that thread. I posted on it, but haven't checked back yet... (I've probably been flamed. some people seem to have it in for me )

Anyways, all I know is, it would be OOC for Sasuke to be anything but cold or at least distant. I mean, where are they getting this kind, protective personality from? It's not like he was ever kind or protective in the first place; They're not asking him to make a 180 in his character, they're asking him to take a whole other turn he's never been on before.

He wouldn't be physically abusive. No, I doubt he'd ever touch someone unless he were fighting them. But he'd be an even worse kind of abuser, the emotional kind, the one that dragged Sakura down in the first place.

I think mainly SS fans want Sakura to "save" Sasuke from his darkness (even as she's walking to her own death) as if it was her job to save anyone, not Naruto's job.

But it doesn't even go that far. Sasuke obviously does not intend to be saved.

Edited by Froot, 26 January 2010 - 01:17 PM.

[pinkheartsyellowstars]

Oh, yeah, that thread. I posted on it, but haven't checked back yet... (I've probably been flamed. some people seem to have it in for me )

Oh, it turns out to be Sasuke being not abusive and an SS fan posted her analysis (basing on psychology) the meaning of abuse.
Dang, for the sake of her fandom, she will use psychology to counter those abuse related issues. ih, i forgot i got a debate there also an SS fan, I decided not to repl because, i ask her to give me a concrete evidence why SS is still a healthy relatioship, Sasuke not being abusive, but yet she gave me the interview. stating Sakura still loves Sasuke ....

I have been putting this way, if Sasuke will even though be save in the end, entirely he will be good, can he be inlove Sakura?
but after the events, Likely no..

[KittenLou]

Oh, it turns out to be Sasuke being not abusive and an SS fan posted her analysis (basing on psychology) the meaning of abuse.
Dang, for the sake of her fandom, she will use psychology to counter those abuse related issues. ih, i forgot i got a debate there also an SS fan, I decided not to repl because, i ask her to give me a concrete evidence why SS is still a healthy relatioship, Sasuke not being abusive, but yet she gave me the interview. stating Sakura still loves Sasuke ....

I have been putting this way, if Sasuke will even though be save in the end, entirely he will be good, can he be inlove Sakura?
but after the events, Likely no..

I know who you're talking about (try not to mock her too much, though), and I just have to say that I find it incredibly ironic that she doesn't find SasuSaku to have abusive qualities at all when she's apparently "studied psychology for over three years". What makes SasuSaku a potentially abusive relationship is not about whether or not he physically beats her or insults her regularly. It's the simple fact he, Sasuke Uchiha, does not care about Sakura Haruno romantically. This fact alone not only makes the relationship one-sided - as has been argued against the pairing from the get-go - but it also greatly implies that Sasuke would neglect Sakura romantically, thus hurting her. The fact he never paid her the kind of mind (because he was never interested in the first place) was a form of neglect and inconsideration toward Sakura's feelings. Sasuke's indifference toward Sakura's advances is what makes the relationship abusive. Granted, it is her own fault for still trying to pursue him, but the point still stands. Loving Sasuke does nothing but hurt Sakura.

Sasuke cares about Sakura as nothing more than a friend. Nothing he has said, nothing he has done has proven anything otherwise. He's not interested in women. He's too absorbed in his wants and needs to so much as consider it. Why? Because his ambitions don't lie in birthing more Uchiha babies; they lie in restoring his clan's former glory and pride. Well, maybe not so much anymore, but you get the idea.

That's my two cents, anyway.

[MaI_Kenkon]

Hi all, I'm new here! Havn't gotten around to my introduction thingy though :/ I have a question for those who are up to date with the manga, specifically up to 469. Is Narusaku as unpopular in Japan as it is in the west? They're my favourites and I just can't figure out what Kishimoto is thinking! T.T