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[Tokura Misaki]

I was answering to some people that mentioned SasuKarin here

 

Ok, but please don't pollute this thread with SasuKarin further because it'll make worse.

[Khaleesi]

That's a very bad excuse. "He wasn't being himself"!? All the villains in the Naruto universe weren't born evil. If I use that excuse, I can do the same for Orochimaru killing Hiruzen, Obito killing all those people, Hidan killing Asuma, Pein killing Jiraiya and so on....They all weren't being themselves and they didn't mean to kill the people they killed. They all fell into darkness.

It's the same with that others, except Hidan i guess. I think i'm not explaining me well. I think that's the reason, not because he doesn't value her. Like Obito and Kakashi. Orochimaru kinda worried for Tsunade. They all "sacrifice" something or someone for their believes. But the again, don't get me wrong, that doesn't mean all what they did just disappear by magic.

[ramenanmitsu]

It's the same with that others, except Hidan i guess. I think i'm not explaining me well. I think that's the reason, not because he doesn't value her. Like Obito and Kakashi. Orochimaru kinda worried for Tsunade. They all "sacrifice" something or someone for their believes. But the again, don't get me wrong, that doesn't mean all what they did just disappear by magic.

Then I don't really get your point. My point is that there was no excuse for Sasuke to stab Karin. Nothing more, nothing less. It seems like you're not disagreeing with me on that point. You're not going to excuse Hitler mass murdering the Jews for his beliefs are you?

Edited by ramenanmitsu, 15 August 2014 - 01:59 AM.

[FoolishYoungling]

Guys we have a problem...

 

legit competition

[Khaleesi]

Then I don't really get your point. My point is that there was no excuse for Sasuke to stab Karin. Nothing more, nothing less. It seems like you're not disagreeing with me on that point. You're not going to excuse Hitler mass murdering the Jews for his beliefs are you?

I'm not disagreeing with you on that. But i tend to empathize with this kind of characters when they look back at what they did. Obviously not Hitler, he killed a lot of people, doesn't matter if Germany's economy were better through it (after their debts with other countries) and doesn't matter either that that was the most practical solution for a corrupt sistem and all. That's not a excuse :v

Tl;dr : They could be the perfect match in this narutoverse if Sasuke hadn't stab her. But Kishi made it on that way, made her acept his apologizes and a parallel with Naruto and Sakura. I actually want him to end up alone or with a unknow character on the distant future.

Guys we have a problem...

 

legit competition

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA, MINATO!!! WHY!!!

He's so charming, i can't blame anyone who fall for him

Edited by FoolishYoungling , 15 August 2014 - 02:39 AM.
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[natalieuciha]

I have to disagree with that, he could just use her as shield. But then again, Sasuke went nuts after stab them both. "Nii-san, there is one" ( or somthing like that) He losted his mind for revenge. And the chapter's name was Sacrifice. Sasuke talked with Danzo before stab them both, asking him why he did it, then got nuts. After this he was already insane and attempted to kil Sakura, but he wasn't himself anymore. Remember that Taka team pointed that Sasuke doesn't kill anyone that is not his target. Orochimaru pinted this too. And Kishimoto draw his face on contrast to the smiling face on Karin's memories. The parallel was intented to mean "this is not the Sasuke we knew". He was literally (?) blind for his revenge. "Sasuke falls in real darkness." Kishi commentary on the page.

Even with all this i'm not happy about it, but i understand it more xD

''he wasnt himself'' thats the same pathetic excuse ss fans try to use for the murder attempts..so i guess you're ready to gloss out those too if you excuse the sk stab..and pls dont bring war to this peaceful thread/..go somewhere else cause here we dont care for sk opinions

[ramenanmitsu]

I'm not disagreeing with you on that. But i tend to empathize with this kind of characters when they look back at what they did. Obviously not Hitler, he killed a lot of people, doesn't matter if Germany's economy were better through it (after their debts with other countries) and doesn't matter either that that was the most practical solution for a corrupt sistem and all. That's not a excuse :v
Tl;dr : They could be the perfect match in this narutoverse if Sasuke hadn't stab her. But Kishi made it on that way, made her acept his apologizes and a parallel with Naruto and Sakura. I actually want him to end up alone or with a unknow character on the distant future.

Well I guess you mean to say that you're empathetic but not excusing them, amirite? I can understand that and I agree.

Btw, SasuKarin isn't a parallel to NaruSaku. That's a huge insult to NS, to say that a twin pairing of SS is a parallel to NS. There is nothing similar between NS and SK.

Also below is my opinion but as I wrote in the previous pages, Sasuke's personality doesn't match with Karin at all. Before Sasuke stabbed Karin, SK was SS part 1. It is helluva one-sided pairing.

Edited by ramenanmitsu, 15 August 2014 - 02:27 AM.

[Khaleesi]

''he wasnt himself'' thats the same pathetic excuse ss fans try to use for the murder attempts..so i guess you're ready to gloss out those too if you excuse the sk stab..and pls dont bring war to this peaceful thread/..go somewhere else cause here we dont care for sk opinions

again, i'm explaining the situation, not telling that Sasuke needs to be with her after that

 

Well I guess you mean to say that you're empathetic but not excusing them, amirite? I can understand that and I agree.

Btw, SasuKarin isn't a parallel to NaruSaku. That's a huge insult to NS, to say that a twin pairing of SS is a parallel to NS. There is nothing similar between NS and SK.

Also below is my opinion but as I wrote in the previous pages, Sasuke's personality doesn't match with Karin at all. Before Sasuke stabbed Karin, SK was SS part 1. It is helluva one-sided pairing.

Yes, i was saying that.

No SK relationship is not like NS relationship, Kishi made a parallel of both of them (Sakura and Karin) running at them and keeping them alives. That is what i said.

But the last thing you said, i have to only disagree with that. I think they can really work (even tho i don't think he sees her on a romantically way), and i have my arguments but this is enough because too much comments about this topic on here xD

Edited by theunburnt, 15 August 2014 - 02:33 AM.

[ramenanmitsu]

again, i'm explaining the situation, not telling that Sasuke needs to be with her after that
 

Yes, i was saying that.
No SK relationship is not like NS relationship, Kishi made a parallel of both of them (Sakura and Karin) running at them and keeping them alives. That is what i said.
But the last thing you said, i have to only disagree with that. I think they can really work (even tho i don't think he sees her on a romantically way), and i have my arguments but this is enough because too much comments about this topic on here xD

I think you're misunderstanding the term "parallel" then. The girls just ran to the two guys who were in danger at the same time. It's just a normal human reaction a girl does when the boy they care or love is injured. The personalities, the interactions, the background are not similar at all. With your logic Hiashi saving Hinata from Kumo is parallel to MinaKushi.

I don't see how a one-sided pair will work but to each their own.

Edited by ramenanmitsu, 15 August 2014 - 02:39 AM.

[natalieuciha]

I'm not disagreeing with you on that. But i tend to empathize with this kind of characters when they look back at what they did. Obviously not Hitler, he killed a lot of people, doesn't matter if Germany's economy were better through it (after their debts with other countries) and doesn't matter either that that was the most practical solution for a corrupt sistem and all. That's not a excuse :v

Tl;dr : They could be the perfect match in this narutoverse if Sasuke hadn't stab her. But Kishi made it on that way, made her acept his apologizes and a parallel with Naruto and Sakura. I actually want him to end up alone or with a unknow character on the distant future.

perfect match?a fangirl hater and a rabbid insane fangirl,noisy persons hater and a noisy/loud girl...yeap perfect match

Edited by natalieuciha, 15 August 2014 - 06:15 AM.

[Tokura Misaki]

Guys we have a problem...

 

legit competition

 

Good job. 

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

SasuKarin can get nailed into it's coffin and then buried 20 feet under for all I care.

Edited by xxRomanceGirlxx, 15 August 2014 - 02:57 AM.

[Khaleesi]

I think you're misunderstanding the term "parallel" then. The girls just ran to the two guys who were in danger at the same time. It's just a normal human reaction a girl does when the boy they care or love is injured. The personalities, the interactions, the background are not similar at all. With your logic Hiashi saving Hinata from Kumo is parallel to MinaKushi.

I don't see how a one-sided pair will work but to each their own.

No, i don't think is the same with what you said xD The one i said was put it one at the side of the other doing what they know for saving the boys that they love.

Sigh, it can work if he hadn't stab her and if he had romantic feelings for her.

 

perfect match?a fangirl hater and a fangirl,noisy persons hater and a noisy/loud girl...yeap perfect match

 

For both of you, i can explain why i think they can work as an hipotetically relationship, but it's a long argument. That's why i posted a link instead. It's difficult for me to write on english. So, if my argument it's too long i avoid it. I try to write the less possible.

Edited by theunburnt, 15 August 2014 - 03:02 AM.

[natalieuciha]

stop it right now..you're risking a big sh vs sk war cause 99% of the members who post here are heavily disliking sk..so dont be such a troll and better open a sk thread if you want to expose your biased opinions instead of coming here and force sh/ns to read those sk kittens

[ramenanmitsu]

No, i don't think is the same with what you said xD The one i said was put it one at the side of the other doing what they know for saving the boys that they love.

So panel placement is your only argument for considering SK to be a parallel of NS? I don't know what to say to you. I've seen tons of NH fans using panel placement to show that NH=MK. Didn't expect to see such arguments here.

Sigh, it can work if he hadn't stab her and if he had romantic feelings for her.

Yeah, like SasuSaku.

Edited by ramenanmitsu, 15 August 2014 - 03:09 AM.

[Khaleesi]

stop it right now..you're risking a big sh vs sk war cause 99% of the members who post here are heavily disliking sk..so dont be such a troll and better open a sk thread if you want to expose your biased opinions instead of coming here and force sh/ns to read those sk kittens

I need to repeat myself? I said before that i said about SakuKarin as an answer to at least 3 others than mentioned it. But then you were rude and the other Sasuke(?) answered me on a way i needed to respond. You can see at this point that i didn't wrote a whole argument because i'm avoiding what you are warning me about.

[Tokura Misaki]

[Khaleesi]

So panel placement is your only argument for considering SK to be a parallel of NS? I don't know what to say to you. I've seen tons of NH fans using panel placement to show that NH=MK. Didn't expect to see such arguments here.

Yeah, like SasuSaku.

*Not the whole NS parallel, just that momment. Like in a "Karin loves Sasuke and Sakura loves Naruto" way.

*No, i don't think so. Sakura and Karin are differents. I don't think SasuSaku could work even if he hadn't attepmt to kill her and like her back. Again, my arguments would be too long.

[ramenanmitsu]

*Not the whole NS parallel, just that momment. Like in a "Karin loves Sasuke and Sakura loves Naruto" way.

You mean that Sakura's care for Naruto is similar to Karin's care for Sasuke? In that case I can understand. But that doesn't make them a parallel. Only that each girl has a guy they care about. That's all there is to it.

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*No, i don't think so. Sakura and Karin are differents. I don't think SasuSaku could work even if he hadn't attepmt to kill her and like her back. Again, my arguments would be too long.

You're just repeating the same thing. SS and SK are helluva lot more similar than SK and NS. Unless you're wearing a 50cm thick pairing goggle, I have no idea how on earth you get the idea that SK parallels NS, but SK and SS are different.

Not to mention, it's a huge double standard. You're mentioning that NS parallels SK based on panel placement and the feelings the girl have for the guy. Which is a really weak argument by the way. Yet at the same time, you refuse to acknowledge SS and SK is similar when both of them got discarded and nearly killed by the guy they love, they both fangirled over him, the guy was absolutely annoyed with the girl, and they lose all power when faced with the guy. The interactions and backgrounds of SS and SK are so similar with each other it's hard to miss.

Edited by ramenanmitsu, 15 August 2014 - 03:30 AM.

[Khaleesi]

You mean that Sakura's care for Naruto is similar to Karin's care for Sasuke? In that case I can understand. But that doesn't make them a parallel. Only that each girl has a guy they care about. That's all there is to it.
You're just repeating the same thing. SS and SK are helluva lot more similar than SK and NS. Unless you're wearing a 50cm thick pairing goggle, I have no idea how on earth you get the idea that SK parallels NS, but SK and SS are different.

I guess i'm confused what parallels means at this point. I can explain to you why i think SK and SS are different but on private and only if you want to. Or just read the link i posted. But not here anymore :v