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#19261 Nostradamus

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Posted 07 June 2015 - 09:36 PM

i sure hope youre talking about naruto to sakura

It was a joke, it seems no one got. Moving on.


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Posted 07 June 2015 - 09:43 PM

i got it =o i just tried to turn it around thats all ;)



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Posted 07 June 2015 - 09:46 PM

i understand completely.

 

SP is playing with its viewers basically. they want to keep as many fans as possible just to get their money

As I said elsewhere, it's probably because SP stupidly believes a majority of "Naruto" fans are the stereotypical self-insert otakus who only care about how the characters look and/or who they physically look "best" with and nothing else; that the males put themselves in Naruto's place, but see Hinata as the "perfect waifu" while females do the same with Sakura towards Sasuke (or Hinata towards Naruto because of Naruto being the "nice guy" and all).

They clearly know that's wrong now considering all the attempts at damage control they've been trying to do (though only through promotional art for things), but as you said, they also don't want to lose the extremist NH/SS fans who are still throwing money at them too.


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Posted 07 June 2015 - 10:12 PM

i want honest trailers to tackle this mess.

 

join hinata~ such a strong and brave of a ninja that she forgets to climb walls, jump gaps, eat cookies, drink water from unwashed hands, and screams of cob webs

 

And yet Sakura gets all the bashing for being "useless"


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Posted 07 June 2015 - 10:16 PM

but dont you know? she has big boobs so she gets a pass. and then the nay sayers will say "will sakura's a kitten! read the manga" and to that we say "we did, she developed from a nobody to a somebody then back to a nobody in favor of your favorite nobody."



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Posted 07 June 2015 - 10:59 PM

 "we did, she developed from a nobody to a somebody then back to a nobody in favor of your favorite nobody."

 

good one


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Posted 07 June 2015 - 11:34 PM

 

good one

 

Agreed. Cat's been on a roll here. So I can dig it. :)



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Posted 08 June 2015 - 12:22 AM

Quote from the Nostalgia Critic, This is bad I mean this is really.... BAD!! THE LOVE STORY IS idiotic. Hinata is an unlikeable b**** and Naruto is a scumbag.  It's just bad. Bad, bad, bad, bad!!!


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Posted 08 June 2015 - 12:44 AM

Quote from the Nostalgia Critic, This is bad I mean this is really.... BAD!! THE LOVE STORY IS idiotic. Hinata is an unlikeable b**** and Naruto is a scumbag.  It's just bad. Bad, bad, bad, bad!!!

 

Which review did you get that one from, Ken?



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Posted 08 June 2015 - 12:49 AM

Anyone familiar with the Dark Moon arc of Sailor Moon, and the character Prince Demando? I don't know why, but Toneri seems to be a copy and paste of him down to the mannerisms of him being obsessed with Hinata, and I don't mean that in a good way either.


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Posted 08 June 2015 - 12:53 AM

Anyone familiar with the Dark Moon arc of Sailor Moon, and the character Prince Demando? I don't know why, but Toneri seems to be a copy and paste of him down to the mannerisms of him being obsessed with Hinata, and I don't mean that in a good way either.

 

Yeah, I remember Diamond and how insane he was, Toasty. @_@ And you bringing that up makes me thing "S**T".



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Posted 08 June 2015 - 01:51 AM

Which review did you get that one from, Ken?

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Posted 08 June 2015 - 01:12 PM

look what i found LOL it's not about the last, and this was made in 2008 but, it sooo discribes the last, plus
i think a few said he should do areview on naruto:the retcon lol. its fanmade the but, its still funny.


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Posted 08 June 2015 - 04:03 PM

look what i found LOL it's not about the last, and this was made in 2008 but, it sooo discribes the last, plus
i think a few said he should do areview on naruto:the retcon lol. its fanmade the but, its still funny.

 

X-D This does feels like what it'd be like if it came to The Last. X-D Even if it was done for the first movie.



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Posted 10 June 2015 - 09:03 AM

Anyone familiar with the Dark Moon arc of Sailor Moon, and the character Prince Demando? I don't know why, but Toneri seems to be a copy and paste of him down to the mannerisms of him being obsessed with Hinata, and I don't mean that in a good way either.

that scene where toneri tried to get hinata to share a cookie with him, was creepy as hell.


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Posted 10 June 2015 - 03:42 PM

that scene where toneri tried to get hinata to share a cookie with him, was creepy as hell.

 

That was, Rose... it's like SP is advocating rape culture, or using Toneri to work out their warped fantasies... @_@



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Posted 11 June 2015 - 05:21 PM

 
That was, Rose... it's like SP is advocating rape culture, or using Toneri to work out their warped fantasies... @_@


Yeah I thought they liked Hinata with Naruto?? Why do they make a guy trying to forcefeed Hinata a cookie? WEIRD... They're just living out their bondage fantasies with the beautiful Hinata.

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Posted 29 August 2015 - 10:07 AM

 

Staff Comments from The Last: Kobayashi (full)

Director Tsuneo Kobayashi’s commentary on The Last from the program guide. I finally finished the full translation. Thanks again to rieriebee for providing scans.

At our first meeting with Kishimoto-sensei, it was requested that we make Naruto the main character of the movie as opposed to having a guest character for this work. From there, we thought about what Naruto was lacking, and came up with “romantic feelings.” It was decided that we would make Naruto’s last movie a “romance movie” instead of an “action movie.”

First, I received the scarf idea from the scriptwriter, Kyozuka-san, and was extremely pleased. From there, we thought we couldn’t make a story with a scarf as the main item, so we came up with the image of Naruto wearing a red scarf, holding hands with Hinata and sprinting through a space with floating bubbles of light that projected their memories. We thought it would make a beautiful picture to take several flashbacks of the memories of these two, which are also scenes in the memories of Naruto fans, and display them like revolving lanterns. We immediately drew the image board and named this world “the memory space.” For the story of this production, we thought backwards to what kind of episode we ought to make in order to tie to this scene.

We completely changed the visuals from those of previous movies and brushed them up. We made a lot of trouble for our character designers Nishio-san and Suzuki-san by giving them unreasonably demanding orders such as making the head length to body height ratio high.

The colors and art are also new. The Hyuuga residence in particular is an important setting when it first makes its appearance, so using the Hyuuga residence in the original work as a reference, we went on location to an old family mansion and remade the setting. In the scene where Hinata converses with Hanabi, the art is beautiful, and I was pleased with the orange from the lights and the atmosphere like that of “In’ei Raisan.” (Translator’s note: “In’ei Raisan” or “In Praise of Shadows” is an essay on Japanese aesthetics written by Jun’ichiro Tanizaki in 1933.) We tried making the color scheme in the scene where Naruto confesses to Hinata like that of a Gogh painting, with the blue water and the shining golden butterflies.

In the dream scene where Naruto, who is dense about romantic love, realizes Hinata’s feelings, it was interesting to mix up the order of the past episodes and put them together randomly like a puzzle. We thought of many patterns for how to put together the episodes until the current Naruto sees Hinata at the academy writing his name on her paper.

I think it was difficult to come up with images for this work, and we originally created Toneri with an image like that of young Johnny Depp as Edward Scissorhands. Toneri can’t understand the feelings of others because he lived alone on the moon since he was young, and so he’s a character who lacks romance for reasons different from Naruto’s.

We had the scenario checked by Kishimoto-sensei. I appreciate that amidst being busy with serialization, he kindly gave us various advice. He also wrote some of the important lines such as, “It takes time to knit a scarf.”

By the way, we made sure to show the key shot of Hinata facing sideways. The side-facing heroine is homage to Alfred Hitchcock’s impressively produced “Vertigo” and director Nobuhiko Obayashi’s “Sabishinbou.”

Since this production is Naruto’s last movie, I tried to have fun while looking back on “Naruto’s memories,” then I put my feelings that this would be a work of everyone’s new “memories” into directing. I will be happy if this production always stays in the corner of everyone’s heart as a “memory.”

so i got to see this in tumblr lol. maybe i'm bias, salty, whatever, but i thought that making naruto the main character in a naruto movie titled "naruto: the last" should be common sense but what do i know. i almost feel sorry for kishi to be stuck with these guys but then i remember he's the guy who write red herrings for the heck of it.

 

there's so much insult to so many characters xD shouldn't read this pos if you like uzumaki naruto the protagonist, Johnny Depp/ Edward Scissorhands,  or Alfred Hitchcock.


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Posted 13 September 2015 - 12:22 PM


 

At the time of Road to Ninja:

 
 
 
And now again:
 
"Around when did you hear that Naruto would fall in love with Hinata?"
 
"Ummm, I don't remember that... when was it, indeed? I think it was before 'THE LAST' was made. My only thoughts were something like 'Ah, is that so?'. Or should I say that I couldn't particularly predict it? I thought that the most probable outcome would be that maybe he'd stay single. I thought that it wouldn't be strange at all if he ended up living a life of wandering alone like Jiraiya. Ah, but more than him settling down and having a family, I was surprised at him actually becoming Hokage."
 
"You thought that he wouldn't become Hokage?"
 
"Well, people who keep insisting that they'll 'become something' to that extend usually end up not becoming it, no?" (laugh)
 
"Ah ah ah. (laugh) Eeeh, that's true."
 
"Right? Nevertheless, I thought that Sakura-chan would become Hokage or something."

junko u da mvp :cry:  :love: i love how much she appreciate sakura's character


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Posted 13 September 2015 - 02:55 PM

so i got to see this in tumblr lol. maybe i'm bias, salty, whatever, but i thought that making naruto the main character in a naruto movie titled "naruto: the last" should be common sense but what do i know. i almost feel sorry for kishi to be stuck with these guys but then i remember he's the guy who write red herrings for the heck of it.
 
there's so much insult to so many characters xD shouldn't read this pos if you like uzumaki naruto the protagonist, Johnny Depp/ Edward Scissorhands,  or Alfred Hitchcock.

All this guy was talking about, was how he worked hard to make everything LOOK good. Not that he tried to make things make sense with the canon story.

Of course it was difficult to think why Hinata writing Naruto's name on apiece of paper would work. No real ninja academy would ask that to a bunch of kids, because once they became ninja, they never knew when their last day would be. This is just more crap about Naruto noticing Hinata's feelings, but nothing explaining why he starts to like her. This guy keeps talking about NH memories together, yet they had next to none. The only memories you could say we're from their childhood, were those brief moments they spoke at the Chunin exam.

It's not even me being mad, it's just the fact that they're ignoring the one most obvious fact that everyone knows about Naruto, being that he was alone, when he was a kid. It's ridiculous how much they undermine, just for a few cliche scenes in the movie. Which is why the only thing that's in most Naruto fans hearts are how disappointing this crap is.

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