Something new? Naruto sucks so bad and it will even suck more once Part 3 starts ;)
Clearly as day ![]()
Posted 13 February 2015 - 02:21 AM
Something new? Naruto sucks so bad and it will even suck more once Part 3 starts ;)
Clearly as day ![]()
Posted 13 February 2015 - 02:22 AM
That post about 38 pages...
Brings back bad feelings.
38 kittening pages of Hinata's Naruto-kuning and one insecured author...
When people write "you don't like ending because your ship didn't become canon" well, I guess that's partly make sense, because whole kittening story was about Naruto aka main hero, who had his dreams and love intrest, not about Naruto lucky boy who happend to be Hinata's aka useless minor character love intrest.
This ending is blatant stupidity that is unbearable.
Well you can always say that they only liked the ending because their pairings did become canon.
The argument works both ways. ![]()

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Posted 13 February 2015 - 02:25 AM
Posted 13 February 2015 - 02:29 AM
Well you can always say that they only liked the ending because their pairings did become canon.
The argument works both ways.
The problem is, we don't have alternative story, so it's their story will continue.
So what is the true purpose of sakura confession?
To kill NS or to create drama.
Surely not 1st.
Posted 13 February 2015 - 02:29 AM
So what is the true purpose of sakura confession?
To kill NS or to create drama.
To kill Sakura.
Posted 13 February 2015 - 02:40 AM
The problem is, we don't have alternative story, so it's their story will continue.
That doesn't matter. The point is that just as they can accuse us of being anti-ending because our pairing didn't become canon, we can likewise accuse them of being pro-ending because their pairings did become canon.
That's why we shouldn't engage in these "You are just..." type of arguments. Instead we should pointing out the multiple flaws, both with the ending as well as Kishi's writing and argue using logic and evidence based on the manga, the databooks and The Last.
Of course some of them won't listen. They'll probably just shout "It's canon", but if that's the case then they're not really worth your time anyway. Just because something is canon doesn't mean that it's automatically the best or most logical outcome and certainly doesn't make it free from scrutiny or criticism.

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Won't you run, live to fly,
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Posted 13 February 2015 - 02:40 AM
off-topic
Its the way the pokemon fandom calls its pairings, for example
AshxMisty is Pokeshipping ( because is the original one)
AshxMay is Advanceshipping ( because of the name of the anime "Pokemon advanced series")
AshxDawn is Pearlshipping ( because of "pokemon pearl" being dawn's character game)
AshxSerena is amourshipping ( because kalos is a region based on france and love in french is amour, or something like that)
and so on...the pokemon fandom has so many ships...
You said it
You could open it too y'know?
If you guys want to talk about pokeshipping can you guys just make a thread for it in otaku square? We really should stay on topic.
Posted 13 February 2015 - 02:43 AM
Posted 13 February 2015 - 02:44 AM
Something new? Naruto sucks so bad and it will even suck more once Part 3 starts ;)
Whaaaaaaa-?
Posted 13 February 2015 - 02:47 AM
That doesn't matter. The point is that just as they can accuse us of being anti-ending because our pairing didn't become canon, we can likewise accuse them of being pro-ending because their pairings did become canon.
That's why we shouldn't engage in these "You are just..." type of arguments. Instead we should pointing out the multiple flaws, both with the ending as well as Kishi's writing and argue using logic and evidence based on the manga, the databooks and The Last.
Of course some of them won't listen. They'll probably just shout "It's canon", but if that's the case then they're not really worth your time anyway. Just because something is canon doesn't mean that it's automatically the best or most logical outcome and certainly doesn't make it free from scrutiny or criticism.
Ah... I didn't engage even once it that, just seeing as people are harassed by that kind of posts. 90% of them don't even listen to something people try to point out. Canon is basically their holy grail, and now it's only way story will go.
That's just the way it is, unfair, but they don't care.
Here's a question for ya guys
If you were the creator of Naruto and went the exact same route as Kishi did ending the series (same exact chapters, same exact ending, creating The Last) and actually cared about every single fan in the fandom and understand their dissatisfaction of your work, what would you do to save your ass, your manga and make ALL your fans happy???
This should be interestinglol
There is no saving from that, easy answer. Ofcourse there is ways of fixing this, but Kishimoto and SP just to hungry for money to fix story itself.
Posted 13 February 2015 - 02:51 AM
Pretty sad to see the original author not care for the story yet the fans do. No wonder FF exist.
Posted 13 February 2015 - 02:51 AM
Here's a question for ya guys
If you were the creator of Naruto and went the exact same route as Kishi did ending the series (same exact chapters, same exact ending, creating The Last) and actually cared about every single fan in the fandom and understand their dissatisfaction of your work, what would you do to save your ass, your manga and make ALL your fans happy???
This should be interestinglol
Rewrite the manga without pay ![]()
Posted 13 February 2015 - 02:58 AM
Here's a question for ya guys
If you were the creator of Naruto and went the exact same route as Kishi did ending the series (same exact chapters, same exact ending, creating The Last) and actually cared about every single fan in the fandom and understand their dissatisfaction of your work, what would you do to save your ass, your manga and make ALL your fans happy???
This should be interestinglol
Hmm...now you're asking lol
Posted 13 February 2015 - 02:59 AM
Ah... I didn't engage even once it that, just seeing as people are harassed by that kind of posts. 90% of them don't even listen to something people try to point out. Canon is basically their holy grail, and now it's only way story will go.
That's just the way it is, unfair, but they don't care.
There is no saving from that, easy answer. Ofcourse there is ways of fixing this, but Kishimoto and SP just to hungry for money to fix story itself.
Posted 13 February 2015 - 02:59 AM
Hmm...now you're asking lol
Posted 13 February 2015 - 03:00 AM
They would still get more money if they wrote a different ending though O_o
Yes, but they planing whole new project around part 3.
Posted 13 February 2015 - 03:03 AM
Ah... I didn't engage even once it that, just seeing as people are harassed by that kind of posts. 90% of them don't even listen to something people try to point out. Canon is basically their holy grail, and now it's only way story will go.
That's just the way it is, unfair, but they don't care.
Sure, but in that case I'd say that their raesons for following Naruto and my reasons for following Naruto are completely different. I followed Naruto because I cared about the story and I wanted to see the characters mature and progress. From what you say, it seems like these people only followed the story because they wanted their pairing to become canon.
I never really liked the term "pairing war". I used it, but that was only because I saw it a kind of overdramtization, not because it was an actual war. For me it wasn't just about my pairing becoming canon, it was about how it would become canon.
It might seem arrogant, but I really don't see how someone can just overlook some of the obvious flaws with this ending.
Edited by TerrorKing, 13 February 2015 - 03:04 AM.

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Won't you run, live to fly,
fly to live, Aces high
Posted 13 February 2015 - 03:07 AM
Yes, but they planing whole new project around part 3.
Posted 13 February 2015 - 03:10 AM
Sure, but in that case I'd say that their raesons for following Naruto and my reasons for following Naruto are completely different. I followed Naruto because I cared about the story and I wanted to see the characters mature and progress. From what you say, it seems like these people only followed the story because they wanted their pairing to become canon.
I never really liked the term "pairing war". I used it, but that was only because I saw it a kind of overdramtization, not because it was an actual war. For me it wasn't just about my pairing becoming canon, it was about how it would become canon.
It might seem arrogant, but I really don't see how someone can just overlook some of the obvious flaws with this ending.
You just said it. It was story about characters, not about couples. So I have no reason to read 699.5, watch the Last or follow any of kitten that will come after 700 because all that based on things that destoryed original story, but alot of people are like "it all was planned from the beggining, it's canon and etc", they just asking for somthing bad in future, but part of them already with 0 at hands (SS) so... only thing that could hurt them already was destroyed.
Wouldn't stop SP though lol
The part 3 project is all kishi's domain and SP is going through with the rest of the anime, their pet baby. If I learned anything from all this is that ANYTHING can happen from these a**holes to get more money.......even a different anime ending to the manga ending
Like third child for NH? lol
If you really learned something, that would be not even one good thing come randomly, only bad, so that's what all people here need to watch in future.
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