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[Atheck]

If anything this is a special case considering that this is the last volume of the series. Your logic doesn't necessarily apply to this scenario.

Why? Because it's not meeting the standards that those predisposed such as yourself set for it? The estimated total of sales is supposedly 205 million. Considering how this volume managed to garner $3.15 million USD (this is using the present rate of exchange for 432 Yen) in the first week of its release alone, I dare say it's been a financial success.

[FireFox]

It's published on the movie pamphlet

Well, he didn't outright said it, but after he saw the Last, he said to pray for her happiness sooo you could say that it's implied that he supports NS over SS since that comment wasn't good for SS from what my friend told me lol

Well that doesn't really mean he's for NS but it could be the case but what do you friend mean by that !? I thought that there was a trans in that pamphlet  that Gaara likes NS or was that just a personal opinion !? I'm confused   Though about her " happiness "   I think he's only referring to her future role since it was stolen from Hinakittens The Byakugan Princess Heroine       .

[RyohkiFan]

Why? Because it's not meeting the standards that those predisposed such as yourself set for it? The estimated total of sales is supposedly 205 million. Considering how this volume managed to garner $3.15 million USD (this is using the present rate of exchange for 432 Yen) in the first week of its release alone, I dare say it's been a financial success.

My friend told me that some are buying because they want to complete their collection, I say it's ok but not what is expected of a manga that has been going on for 15 years...I would say it's pretty low since one would expect that the first week would reach over a million, that's just me though

[RyohkiFan]

Well that doesn't really mean he's for NS but it could be the case but what do you friend mean by that !? I thought that there was a trans in that pamphlet  that Gaara likes NS or was that just a personal opinion !? I'm confused   Though about her " happiness "   I think he's only referring to her future role since it was stolen from Hinakittens The Byakugan Princess Heroine       .

None of the VAs but Nana seem happy about the ending about the ending, so let us take it as a good thing since it is xD

[TouKen4Life3g]

My friend told me that some are buying because they want to complete their collection, I say it's ok but not what is expected of a manga that has been going on for 15 years...I would say it's pretty low since one would expect that the first week would reach over a million, that's just me though

It's true. I already listed all the reasons, so no one can accused me of making crap up because I'm not. I already talked to one friend who hate the ending but got the last volume. I think he was very naive about ending change but what can I do. I'm not going to be like calling names and such. I guess you can say while you understand their choice, very deep inside, you want to say "You're so stupid." Kind of like not truly meaning it but you know you feel this way.

[RyohkiFan]

It's true. I already listed all the reasons, so no one can accused me of making crap up because I'm not. I already talked to one friend who hate the ending but got the last volume. I think he was very naive about ending change but what can I do. I'm not going to be like calling names and such. I guess you can say while you understand their choice, very deep inside, you want to say "You're so stupid." Kind of like not truly meaning it but you know you feel this way.

That is what basically happening, so you're right! XD

[FireFox]

None of the VAs but Nana seem happy about the ending about the ending, so let us take it as a good thing since it is xD

I can't look at it as good thing I don't have my Positive Good Goggles  on me  but  the Dark Negative ones  . JK I suppose you're right  .  Also agree about the above Naruto should have earned allot more bc the hype is always high when series of 15 years is finishing  but it didn't wonder why !?  .   

[Chatte]

Why? Because it's not meeting the standards that those predisposed such as yourself set for it? The estimated total of sales is supposedly 205 million. Considering how this volume managed to garner $3.15 million USD (this is using the present rate of exchange for 432 Yen) in the first week of its release alone, I dare say it's been a financial success.

The very fact that it's the series end and what name this series holds is the very thing that raise its standards and expectations. The series's hype itself is doing it with none of us needing to do that.

[RyohkiFan]

I can't look at it as good thing I don't have my Positive Good Goggles  on me  but  the Dark Negative ones  . JK I suppose you're right  .  Also agree about the above Naruto should have earned allot more bc the hype is always high when series of 15 years is finishing  but it didn't wonder why !?  .   

Your negatively is bad for me! Away

Edited by RyohkiFan, 12 February 2015 - 01:58 PM.

[FireFox]

You're negatively is bad for me! Away

No ! I'll corrupt you .

 

  

[Chatte]

It's published on the movie pamphlet

Eeeh what? That Gaara and NS thing? I didn't quite understood what that was either.

[AHK]

Why? Because it's not meeting the standards that those predisposed such as yourself set for it? The estimated total of sales is supposedly 205 million. Considering how this volume managed to garner $3.15 million USD (this is using the present rate of exchange for 432 Yen) in the first week of its release alone, I dare say it's been a financial success.

Except that success isn't measured by revenue in the industry, the number of sales is what determines success. It hasn't achieved 1 million sales in its first week for the last volume of a mega series, yet One Piece's last volume sold more than two million in its first week, for a volume that doesn't have anything special about it. So no, it's not successful.

Edited by AHK, 12 February 2015 - 02:19 PM.

[Atheck]

The very fact that it's the series end and what name this series holds is the very thing that raise its standards and expectations. The series's hype itself is doing it with none of us needing to do that.

I'm sure there was a minority of people back in 1995 who believed that the final volume of DBZ wouldn't garner too much financial success. The hype for Toriyama's work was/is even greater relative to Naruto's, and the quantity of volumes is less as well. I tried searching for the exact sales estimates of the last DBZ volume, but I couldn't find anything.

The hype for Naruto has been gradually declining for years now. Hell! Come the final 30-40 chapters, many readers were only continuing to follow the series for the sake of concluding it, not because they were entertained or impressed by the manga. An ending with as much controversy surrounding it like Naruto would have only increased the rate of said decline by a notable percentage.

Except that success isn't measured by revenue in the industry, the number of sales is what determines success. It hasn't achieved 1 million sales in its first week for the last volume of a mega series, yet One Piece's last volume sold more than two million in its first week, for a volume that doesn't have anything special about it. So no, it's not successful.

I'm sorry, what does the amount of sales to people alone indicate? It's the profits acquired from the sales that inspire and drive the manga industries. You overlooked that step.

One Piece first began in a period during the mid 1990s that could be considered a golden age of manga with notable series like Rurouni Kenshin and Dragonball ongoing or at least still in the general interest of the public. Granted, Naruto technically was part of the 1990s as well, but it started in the ending months of the decade. Moreover, you have to compare the reader's interest for both manga's concepts, that being One Piece's pirate based universe versus Naruto's ninja themed equivalent

Edited by Atheck, 12 February 2015 - 02:33 PM.

[RyohkiFan]

Eeeh what? That Gaara and NS thing? I didn't quite understood what that was either.

Gaara's VA said, after watching the movie, to pray for Sakura's happiness in your heart and my friend said it isn't meant for SS lol

[RyohkiFan]

No ! I'll corrupt you .
 
  

Away Dx I will have my lawyers on you

[AHK]

I'm sure there was a minority of people back in 1995 who believed that the final volume of DBZ wouldn't garner too much financial success. The hype for Toriyama's work was/is even greater relative to Naruto's, and the quantity of volumes is less as well. I tried searching for the exact sales estimates of the last DBZ volume, but I couldn't find anything.The hype for Naruto has been gradually declining for years now. Hell! Come the final 30-40 chapters, many readers were only continuing to follow the series for the sake of concluding it, not because they were entertained or impressed by the manga. An ending with as much controversy surrounding it like Naruto would have only increased the rate of said decline by a notable percentage.I'm sorry, what does the amount of sales to people alone indicate? It's the profits acquired from the sales that inspire and drive the manga industries. You overlooked that step.One Piece first began in a period during the mid 1990s that could be considered a golden age of manga with notable series like Rurouni Kenshin and Dragonball ongoing or at least still in the general interest of the public. Granted, Naruto technically was part of the 1990s as well, but it started in the ending months of the decade. Moreover, you have to compare the reader's interest for both manga's concepts, that being One Piece's pirate based universe versus Naruto's ninja themed equivalent

Because different industries operate in different ways. The manga industry isn't like the movie industry, it's more akin to the music industry, where money is discounted, and you get awarded for sales. Albums are given grades based off of number of sales, as they're given rating accordingly. Platinum rated albums are rated that way after they achieve a certain number of sales, not how much they make. Manga is the same way. Have you ever seen manga covers where there's a line about how successful a manga volume is doing? It's always speaking of how many copies they have sold. Those are words from Mangaka themselves.

What they gain in money is a function of price. You said Naruto has made around 3 million? With less than half as many sales as the lates one piece volume? That means that One Piece has well over doubled Naruto's profit. Your point on reader interest has no bearing, as if there wasn't interest in Narutos theme, then it wouldn't have been near as successful. Your point on time period is also irrelevant, as AoT was OP's only competitor as of late, despite the era change (and still got crushed by OP).

Edited by AHK, 12 February 2015 - 02:48 PM.

[FireFox]

Away Dx I will have my lawyers on you

[Popuri]

Eeeh what? That Gaara and NS thing? I didn't quite understood what that was either.

Yeah. Like what RyohkiFan said. Although to be honest I don't see anything about strong NS implicit comment there.

If you need to ask, ask Ryotivator. She's my spokesperson. 

[RyohkiFan]

Yeah. Like what RyohkiFan said. Although to be honest I don't see anything about strong NS implicit comment there.
If you need to ask, ask Ryotivator. She's my spokesperson. 

[AzureWaters]

Gaara's seiyuu simply said "pray for Sakura's happiness". Most likely he means in context of the movie, where Sakura had to play cupid for NH the whole time.