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#645394 Chapters 699 And 700 The End

Posted by Elicit on 06 November 2014 - 04:21 PM

@ellicit
From what I remember he said "that guy(kishimoto) say there are no heroine since 2010".
In other word kishi lie to us that sakura is the heroine.

Takl said that heroine tends to mean the "love interest" meant for the hero in japan.

 

That must mean that he never actually planned for Naruto to end up with anyone until that point in time, or that he wasn't sure if he was going to have him end up with Sakura or Hinata until then. This was suspiciously after Jump Festa 2010:
 

 

ジャンフェスネタバレまとめ
JUMP Festa spoiler summary
・サクラはちょっとナルトに対して驕っている
Sakura’s acting a little haughty towards Naruto
・これからヒロインらしくする
She’ll be more heroine-like from now on
・サスケはどんどん悪くなってナルトと戦うのが多分ラスト
Sasuke’s becoming more and more evil, and him fighting with Naruto will probably be the last event
・サスケは鷹ともなんかある
Something will happen with Sasuke and Taka as well
・ナルトが火影になるならラスト
Naruto becoming Hokage if it happens, will be at the end
・シカマルはあんまり恋愛させたくない
There’s no desire to have much romance for Shikamaru
・ナルトの近くにはまともなのがいないからシカマルが側近的に
Naruto has no-one around him who’s up-front with him, so Shikamaru will [be/take on as] a confidante
・ダンゾウ戦で サスケの方向性が決まる
The battle against Danzou will decide Sasuke’s Path.
・でもサスケは大事に描くって言ってくれた
but he (Kishimoto) told us that he wrote something big happening with Sasuke
・サクラはやっぱりサスケが好きみたい
Looks like Sakura really does love Sasuke
・来年はカカシの年
Next year is Kakashi’s year
各声優さんから岸本先生に質問
Each voice actor asked questions to Kishimoto-sensei
中村はやはりサクラの今後について、岸本「正直女らしい意地もみせる
As one might expect, Nakamura asked about what was upcoming with Sakura
周りからヒロインらしくないとかヒナタのほうがヒロインだとか言われている
がやはりサクラは自分の中でヒロインなんで、これからヒロインっぽい所見せる」
Kishimoto: “Honestly, from the standpoint of showing a female-like disposition, she hasn’t been much of a heroine. You could even say that Hinata’s more of a heroine than her. But since, as we know, Sakura is a heroine deep inside, she’ll show that side of hers from now on.”
ナルトは近いが、サクラやはりサスケが好き的な発言。後あんまりナルト対していい
言葉は使わなかったような驕っている…だっけ思い出せない。
Naruto’s close, but Sakura loves Sasuke as we should expect from that speech. She’s being haughty with her using not so kind words against Naruto right afterwards…didn’t she? I can’t recall.
確かに確かに森久保がシカ丸の恋愛について聞いたら、杉山が「砂の人とか」って
Yeah it’s true, it did sound as though Sugiyama said, “With a Suna person” when Morikubo asked about Shikamaru’s love life.
言ってたような。岸本はシカ丸のそういう話は書きたくないそうだ。
Kishimoto said he didn’t want to write that for Shikamaru.
竹内は「ナルトは火影になるのですか?」に対して岸本はなるでしょう的な発言
これには会場が湧いた。
Takeuchi: “Will Naruto become Hokage?” to which Kishimoto said something like “He should become Hokage”. This had the audience make noise.
竹内「ナルトが火影になる前にサクラちゃんが火影になったりしない?」に対して
岸本きっぱり「ない!」と断る
Takeuchi: “Won’t Sakura-chan become Hokage before Naruto does?” to which Kishimoto dismissed flatly, “No way!”
岸本またナルトの修行をやる発言、竹内「またナルトが強くなるんですね」
Kishimoto announced Naruto will do training.
Takeuchi: “So Naruto will become stronger again.”
来年はカカシがメイン、竹内「これ和彦さんに言わないほうがいいな」
Next year, Kakashi is the main character
Takeuchi: “It would be a good thing not to tell this to Kazuhiko-san”
杉山「ダンゾウ戦の結果はここでは言えないかもしれませんがその後鷹はどうなるのか?」
Sugiyama: “You probably can’t speak of the outcome of the Danzou fight, but what happens with Taka after?”
岸本「ダンゾウ戦の結果は言えませんが、鷹の内部で色々ある(もめる?)サスケの眼つき
もどんどん悪くなる、つい最近ここいらへんの話が決まった」(サスケ関連があまり決まって
もいないような発言があったのでこんへんはあやふや)
Kishimoto: “I can’t speak to what happens with the Danzou fight, but there’ll be some things happening within Taka (dissent?) and the look in Sasuke’s eyes will grow more and more evil. I’ve just recently decided on such a course of the story” (these words make it seem as if the Sasuke-related part isn’t really decided upon, so take this part with a grain of salt).
次は岸本先生への質問コーナー
Next was the Questions For Kishimoto-sensei Corner
中村さんが「最近の展開でサクラは・・・」ってかんじで
Nakamura-san started off with something like, “With the latest developments, Sakura has…”
あいつ(竹内さんが「あいつ?w」って反応)はナルトの好意を利用したりイヤなヤツだけど、
He said something like, that chick* (Takeuchi reacted to that “That chick” lol) is detestable for using Naruto’s good will,
まあそういうリアルな女の子っぽく描こうと思って、といったかんじ
but, well that’s just how I’d think to write a realistic girl.
サクラがイヤなヤツだとはよく言われるけど故意でそうしてるらしい
You hear all the time that Sakura is a detestable person, but that’s what seems to be the intention
「ヒロインはサクラなので」「これから意地を見せるところを描く」
“Since Sakura is the heroine”, “I’ll be writing from now on to show her with that disposition”
「みんなヒナタヒナタ言うけど・・・」
“Though everyone says Hinata-Hinata all the time…”
↑これはヒナタを応援する声が大きいってニュアンスじゃないかな(個人的な印象ね)
↑I wonder if it’s that their voices supporting Hinata are so loud (my personal impression)
杉山さんはどれを質問するか迷いつつ(ただのファン状態)
Sugiyama wavered on which question to ask (normal fan thing)
「サスケはダンゾウと戦ってどうなるのか」と聞いて
He asked: “What will happen to Sasuke after fighting Danzou?”
「ダンゾウ戦が終わってサスケの今後の展開(行動というか意志というか)が決まる」
“The ending of the Danzou fight will determine Sasuke’s coming development (whether it be his movement or his intentions)”
「鷹のメンバーも方向性が決まる」
“As will the course of those in Taka”
「きのう担当と打合せして決めたんですけど・・・」
“The handling and arrangement was decided just yesterday…”
森久保さんは「シカマルにラブロマンスはありますか」
Morikubo-san: “Will Shikamaru have a love/romance?”
「シカマルはそういうのは描きたくない」
“I don’t want to write that for Shikamaru”
「木の葉のやつらがたよりないので、シカマルしかまともなやつがいないので」
“The Konoha guys aren’t reliable, so there’s no one there honest/upfront except for him”
「サスケがいないのでナルトの側近的なかんじで進める」
“Since Sasuke isn’t there, there’s the impression that he’ll be taken up as Naruto’s confidante”
側近ときいて森久保さん「なら(ラブロマンスは)いいです!」
When it got to the “confidante” part, Morikubo-san (said): “Then it’s good!” (his love life)
竹内さんは「ナルトは火影になるの!?」
Takeuchi-san: “Naruto will be Hokage, right?!”
「なる・・・と思いますけど(それ描いたら)ラストになっちゃいますよね」
“He will…I think but (if I write that) that would be the last thing”
*tn note: word was “aitsu”, is genderless but normally used for guys in a very colloquial way (read: not polite). When referring to a guy, it’s “that guy” or “he”, and to a girl would be something like “that chick” or “she”, but of course in a slightly impolite manner.
竹内さんが「ナルトとサスケは戦うの?」と聞いて
Takeuchi-san asked, “Will Naruto and Sasuke fight?”
キッシー「戦うと思うけど、それ描いたら(物語が)ラストなんじゃないかな・・・」
Kishi: “I’m thinking they’ll fight, but if/when I write that, (the story) would be something like the last thing right…”
森久保さんの「シカマルは?」との問いには
Morikubo-san’s, “What about Shikamaru?” was in that and it was:
「・・・う~ん・・・」
“…No…”
今後大きい展開に絡む予定はなさそうなリアクション
His reaction seemed like he hadn’t set firm plans for the coming big developments
「ラストは決まってるの?」的な問いかけに
Like when he was asked “So you haven’t determined the end?”
「ラストというか、今後の描きたいシーンが固まったのでそこを描いていく」
“The end, how should I say, since the next scene(s) of what I want to write is established, then that is what I’ll go write”
終わりまでの展開が決定したというよりはラストに向けて描きたい場面を決めただけらしい
It would seem that rather than having made a decision on the developments until the finish, he settled on writing just the scenes he wants to write for the end
来年がカカシの年って言ったら竹内さん猛抗議
After saying next year would be Kakashi’s year, Takeuchi had a fierce discussion
キッシー「ナルトはまた修行するんで」竹内さん「まだ強くなるんだねー」
Kishi: “Naruto will be training again”, Takeuchi-san: “Still getting stronger right”

End

 




#644082 Chapters 699 And 700 The End

Posted by Elicit on 06 November 2014 - 11:58 AM

Don't cry!

 

This writer doesn't deserve those tears.

 

So please, just don't.




#642529 The Last: Naruto the Movie: Thread 2 aka The Last retcon: Hinata-sama the movie

Posted by Elicit on 06 November 2014 - 06:44 AM

The only thing you guys are going to see when this chapter comes out is our ship sinking because of RANDOM ASSPULLS. As a matter of fact, we won't even be able to see any closure of Naruto's feelings for Sakura until the movie comes out. That's how big the asspulls will be.




#641792 Chapters 699+700 spoilers

Posted by Elicit on 06 November 2014 - 03:54 AM

That's another thing. Since when did Hinata ever think about how Naruto felt? Not once. Not one time did she ever think of how he felt, yet she loved him. So basically, according to Kishimoto, not only is ok to manipulate a mans feelings, but it's justifiable because men's feelings don't matter.
Kishi: "Ladies, remember, if you like a guy that's an arrogant ass, and there's a nice guy that loves you from the bottom of his heart, make sure to manipulate his feelings for you so you have a chance with the a**hole that tries to kill you. It's ok, because in the long run, men's feelings don't actually matter. The nice guy only exists so that you can use him and then throw him away at the drop of a dime. Also, guys, it's perfectly fine to belittle women and try to kill them, because no matter what, theyll come crawling back to you."
What kittening self-respecting author would advertise that nonsense?

I think he didn't make NS canon to intentionally give a negative message to the reader. Probably based on a real life experience.


#637768 This website. ..

Posted by Elicit on 05 November 2014 - 03:31 PM

We will continue to discuss NaruSaku, and this website will live on. We will ship it in fanfiction, as we are much smarter than the creator of the Naruto manga.


#637298 Chapters 699+700 spoilers

Posted by Elicit on 05 November 2014 - 02:30 PM

Why did Kishi even make Naruto have a romantic interest in Sakura? What was the point of that? Why not introduce Naruto as the guy who gives no kittens about romance until he finds Hinata?


#636285 Chapters 699+700 spoilers

Posted by Elicit on 05 November 2014 - 12:05 PM

Naruhina was never developed so i'm not expecting anything for it next chapters.

SasuSaku was never developed so I'm not expecting anything for it next chapters.

I don't care about evil's hints, the movie promos, or the leaked photos anymore.

I just... want to stick with things that make sense.


#635905 Chapters 699+700 spoilers

Posted by Elicit on 05 November 2014 - 09:15 AM

I CAN'T see a pairing like SasuSaku, or SasuKarin being asspulled. Sasuke was never once shown to even have the slightest interest in ANYTHING related to women.




#635795 Chapters 699+700 spoilers

Posted by Elicit on 05 November 2014 - 08:36 AM

What if she's kittening with people because there's going be a confirmed pairing? O/E was an option for a lot of you..

She could also be kittening with people because there's actually an Open Ending rather than any confirmed pairings...




#635757 Chapters 699+700 spoilers

Posted by Elicit on 05 November 2014 - 08:17 AM

As much as I want this pairing to happen because I like it and it makes the most sense, another side of me wants it to happen because of all the arguments made in the past for NH that are just stupid. The latest databook shut down all previous NH arguments that I found incredibly stupid. It was really to the point where the people I was arguing against never really cared about the writing that was put into the pairing.

 

If NH or SS happens, when the next big series comes and there's these pairing wars, you're going to have a similar lot of retarded people arguing about things that logically wouldn't make any sense. In a way, it's a betrayal of humanity's intelligence.




#635560 Chapters 699+700 spoilers

Posted by Elicit on 05 November 2014 - 07:09 AM

ok the sun + the pinkish whatever the kitten you call it = a screwed sunflower

 

why is this so NH when it can easily be interpreted as NS

 

Sun Seal = Naruto

 

Pink = Sakura

 

Sunflower = mixture of both (their kid)

 

so explain this to me with a reason of why it's pink. 

The Sun = Naruto

 

Pink = Sakura

 

The screws mean "screwed"

 

Hinata means sunflower.

 

So Hinata is screwed because NS happens?




#635261 Chapters 699+700 spoilers

Posted by Elicit on 05 November 2014 - 06:08 AM

 

I know that feeling. Like, my brain is telling me: Look, NH/SS are canon. Deal with it.

 

But my heart... is desperately clinging to every piece of hope.

 

We pairingfans (of all pairings) can be really silly. :pinch:

My brain is telling me that SS can't be canon, because it makes absolutely no sense, so I'm sticking to that notion. Just a couple of chapters ago Kakashi was saying "She's not trying or wanting to be with you"!

 

I feel like I should accept that NH is confirmed, but it doesn't make any sense based on manga developments, so I'm thinking we WON'T see it asspulled in the next chapters, only in the movie if it actually does happen.




#634680 The Last: Naruto the Movie: Thread 2 aka The Last retcon: Hinata-sama the movie

Posted by Elicit on 05 November 2014 - 04:40 AM

If NaruSaku doesn't really happen, and all these random pairings that come out of nowhere do, I think I'll just feel disconnected from fiction for awhile.




#634214 The Last: Naruto the Movie: Thread 2 aka The Last retcon: Hinata-sama the movie

Posted by Elicit on 05 November 2014 - 03:40 AM

rnE90.gif

 

Me as i watch this thread.

Sometimes, I'm like this. But I'm also like:

 

t1O9ht1.gif

 

:lmao:




#634143 The Last: Naruto the Movie: Thread 2 aka The Last retcon: Hinata-sama the movie

Posted by Elicit on 05 November 2014 - 03:32 AM

No one has answered my question. How do you know this is legit? 

First off, there is a whole movie advertised by Studio PIerrot that is about romance and seems to confirm NaruHina.

 

But the only hints we have gotten so far for SS are from Evil, who has a tedency to troll people.

 

An SS confirmation alongside of NH seems very off and that's besides the fact that it doesn't make any sense and not even hinted whatsoever by Studio Pierrot.

 

I suggest some of you who are too emotionally distressed to just stop visiting this website, and don't come back until the chapters are out 2 days from now. Don't visit any Naruto websites either. You need tough-skin even on the internet and it seems some of you are not fit to be on this website, and have absolutely no faith in anything that makes sense.