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#245430 Naruto 469 Spoilers

Posted by RRAlchemist on 26 October 2009 - 08:46 PM in The Museum of NaruSaku

Well, after wading through comment after comment and spoiler after spoiler, I can honestly say I’m not the least bit surprised or concerned. A tad bit irritated on multiple levels at Sakura? Absolutely.

It’s been said before, but that’s really what it boils down to. Sakura screwed up, but not in the sense that she lied to Naruto. She may be telling the 100% truth about her feelings for Naruto, but she made two huge mistakes in my eyes. 1) She brought Sasuke into it her “confession”, and 2) She made the POAL all about her, either ignoring or forgetting that Naruto’s resolve on bringing back Sasuke isn’t solely based on the feelings she had/has for Sasuke but also his own bond with Sasuke.

Had Sakura not brought up Sasuke herself in this part of the conversation and, should Naruto have asked, better articulate her feelings toward Sasuke I think Naruto would have had a much different reaction to all of this. But, for whatever reason, Sakura saw it necessary to bring Sasuke into this when she should have let Naruto bring him into this equation if he wanted to. If I were Naruto, I would question the sincerity of her feelings too if she felt the need to bring up her feelings for Sasuke in her confession of sorts. That shows some insecurity and it definitely doesn’t show the closure she claims she has with her feelings for Sasuke, and even good ole’ dense Naruto sees that and is rightfully calling her out on it. So when he says she’s lying to herself he’s basing that off of what she’s just shown him, and in my opinion that’s fair.

I don’t think it would be a stretch to say that Naruto is a bit offended by this either. As I said earlier, Sakura either just completely disregarded the other half of Naruto’s wanting to bringing Sasuke back (his personal reasons) or she just assumed that the half of the POAL that involved her outweighed the part in which Naruto wants Sasuke back as his best friend and comrade. That alone, if that’s what’s going on, says a lot about how important Sakura thinks she is to Naruto and if this is her trying to exploit that then that’s just gross. I don’t think that’s what this is because that would throw out countless chapters of Sakura development and would negate everything she just said about not wanting to screw things up anymore. But Naruto doesn’t know about the talk between Sakura and Sai, so how else can he look at this other than either Sakura’s lying to herself or she’s trying to manipulate him via his feelings for her?

I’m sure we could all think up ways this could have gone better, but in the end I would consider this chapter a turn in the right direction. Maybe not a step, but definitely a turn, more specifically a turn away from SasuSaku (which I think is long dead anyway) and NaruHina (which I still consider only a few notches above a decent crack pairing). Actually, I’m quite happy to see that it’s taken so long for this “confession scene” to happen because it’s the final of the big three. SasuSaku’s confession scene came first in Part One when Sasuke was leaving the village and NaruHina’s came second right before Hinata attacked Pain. That’s why I think out of the three SasuSaku is the most unlikely (even though I like it soooo much more than NaruHina); because out of the three it's gone the longest without having anything definite coming up to support them. Hints, sure, but nothing definite… until now when Sakura brings him up, of course. And there’s really been nothing going for NaruHina since Hinata's confession unless you count Hinata standing by smiling as she watched Sakura hug Naruto, which if acknowledged is hard to see as anything other than pro NaruSaku.

Now, the pattern thus far has been confession then nothing, confession then nothing. But if you remember all the evidence NaruSaku has accumulated over the course of this manga, even though it undoubtedly has the “worst” confession scene out of the Big Three it’s really the only pairing that had its unsure factor (Sakura) confess. We’ve got Sakura, who’s feelings for Naruto up till now haven’t been made perfectly clear while Naruto’s feelings for her have been consistently obvious, confessing. This is significant because it’s the only confession in the whole manga made by a character who’s feelings for the opposite character weren’t perfectly known until the confession. We all knew Sakura’s feelings going into the SasuSaku confession while Sasuke’s were at best ambiguous, and we all knew about Hinata’s feelings going into the NaruHina confession while, again, Naruto’s feelings at best were vague, and look how well those two pairings have been doing thus far. Again, no true mentions towards SasuSaku had been made since the confession until this chapter and it’s a renouncement of feelings no less (far from a pro for SasuSaku), and nothing for NaruHina since Hinata’s panel on the NaruSaku hug page.

If that weren’t enough, NaruSaku is the only pairing to have true mutual hints leading up to the confession. There have been scenes for both Naruto and Sakura hinting at romantic feelings for each other, while, as I said before, SasuSaku and NaruHina were both rather one sided up until their respective confessions. Also, in this case, we had the whole Sai-Sakura talk just a few chapters before this one, so there was indication that this confession was coming while both the SasuSaku and NaruHina confession scenes came as a surprise and out of desperation. Sakura confessed to Sasuke so he wouldn’t leave the village and Hinata confessed because she thought she was about to die.

So the long and short of what I’m saying is that this confession and everything leading up to it has completely set NaruSaku apart from every other pairing in the manga, specifically NaruSaku’s two biggest opponents. Why is this significant? Because, in my opinion, the confession of both SasuSaku and NaruHina were the closing number of both pairings. NaruSaku has been left standing as the major pairing without a confession until now so I can’t help but look at this as "Saving the best for last." The way I see it, there are three ways this whole pairing situation can end now. 1) Something happens after this to convince Naruto of Sakura's feelings for him, meaning NaruSaku, 2) Sakura realizes she really is lying to herself about her feelings for Sasuke and Naruto and two forget about this whole ordeal, meaning either SasuSaku or no pairings at all, or 3) For whatever reason, either Naruto or Sakura (more likely Sakura) dies, and while I can't be sure what that would mean I'm going to guess that would mean no pairings sooner than I'd guess SasuSaku or NaruHina.

I’d also like to note that:
-We don’t even hear Sakura confess the first time. We cut in with Naruto saying, “"Wha..?! What did you just say, Sakura-chan?! I think I misheard you, say it again.” All the other confessions we’ve seen from beginning to end. This is the only one where we don’t get to see the most pivotal part of it. Again, this sets NaruSaku apart from everything else… A big plus in my eyes.
-Unless Naruto storms off right after saying he hates people who lie to themselves, this is the only confession scene thus far that is going to take more than one chapter. Again, this is differentiation from everything else thus far and if that’s not significant than it’s pointless and I doubt Kishi would go through all the trouble of making this pairing so different if it were all for nothing.

Now what I want to see is Sakura get over her shock and fight back immediately. Like a lot of people have been saying, she's got to prove her feelings to Naruto and I think her best shot at doing so is to not wait or let Naruto walk away from this thinking what he's thinking. I'd love to see her convince him right then and there because if she doesn't that means this drama is just going to be prolonged and I don't want to see it build up to anything like a death, something I've been thinking about and hoping against for a little while now. My guess is that nothing is going to be certain for a while, and though I most certainly wouldn't start celebrating just yet I'm having a rough time believing that this could all turn out any other way than in our favor. I'm more anxious to see how everything plays out between them in the midst of Madara’s war than the actual outcome, even though I'm obviously pulling for NaruSaku canonization. I don't think this chapter should give any of us reason to worry but rather reason to just keep reading to see how this all goes down between the two, even though my guess is that this isn't going to be settled any time soon. In the mean time, all we can do is enjoy the story as it gets all the more promising (and dramatic, unfortunately dry.gif)



#236103 Chapter 460 spoilers? (FAKE)

Posted by RRAlchemist on 13 August 2009 - 03:09 AM in Latest Releases

Eh, this is just a prediction... So even the spoilers aren't out till next week? This wait is a bit harder than I expected...



#234425 NaruSaku Theme Songs!

Posted by RRAlchemist on 02 August 2009 - 06:23 AM in Icha Icha NaruSaku

Never Say Never- The Fray


There's some things we don't talk about
Rather do without
And just hold the smile
Falling in and out of love
Ashamed and proud of
Together all the while

You can never say never
Why we dont know when
Time and time again
Younger now than we were before

Don't let me go
Don't let me go
Don't let me go
[x2]

Picture you're the queen of everything
As far as the eye can see
Under your command
I will be your guardian
When all is crumbling
Steady your hand

You can never say never
Why we dont know when
Time, time and time again
Younger now then we were before

Don't let me go
Don't let me go
Don't let me go
[x2]

We're pulling apart and coming together again and again
We're growing apart but we pull it together, pull it together, together again

Don't let me go
Don't let me go
Don't let me go
[x4]



#233899 What are you listening to?

Posted by RRAlchemist on 30 July 2009 - 09:14 PM in Fun Cafe

Old School Hollywood- System of a Down



#233750 Naruto 458 Spoilers

Posted by RRAlchemist on 30 July 2009 - 07:45 AM in Latest Releases

QUOTE (FullmetalNinjaED @ Jul 30 2009, 12:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
She probably realizes all the pain she's put Naruto through because of Sasuke (and its about damned time too).



QUOTE (Bryon_Konoha_Ninja @ Jul 30 2009, 12:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
*nods* And probably her own feelings for him in the process.

Bryon


Very true. I just didn't expect her crying over it all (or even Sai saying something) to take up half a page. Then again, this is a massive turning point for her and I'm happy to see that it's probably going to get the emphasis and attention it deserves. Her realizing just how much Naruto has gone through for her and Sasuke and, even more importantly, how much farther he's willing to go is really nothing short of major.

But wow...The epic Kage meeting and yet another positive development for NaruSaku. I seriously haven't been this stoked for a chapter since probably 450 laugh.gif



#233734 Naruto 458 Spoilers

Posted by RRAlchemist on 30 July 2009 - 05:44 AM in Latest Releases

Haven't seen any of these up here yet, so....

More Spoiler Pics --Click here to view--








Wow... Sakura is really crying. And Sai looks so intense...



#232634 Naruto Chapter 457

Posted by RRAlchemist on 24 July 2009 - 08:19 AM in Latest Releases

QUOTE (AnimeLeader @ Jul 23 2009, 11:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
edit: Why do NaruHina fans always start Kishi is a fan of NaruHina were in the world do they get this from? Their imagination?


My best guess is that it comes from this snippet of an interview Kishi did back in 2008. Watch/read from :35 to the end.


With that, I see where they're coming from saying Kishi supports NaruHina. But it's just not enough to sway me away from NaruSaku even a little bit, not after all the recent developments and especially not in the face of all the evidence that's piled up since the very beginning.

Now, in regards to this chapter, I'm interested to see what will happen now that the summit has started, but I'm hoping that it doesn't consume so much of the next chapter that Sai and Sakura's "little" talk is pushed back to 459 or later because then I might just have to scream haha Naruto's begging didn't bother me as much as I thought it was going to but he really can't pull that kind of stuff anymore since it's just not going to get him anywhere. Overall, really good chapter. I'm now anxiously awaiting spoilers (while singing Sai's praises =])



#228116 Your Favorite Crack Pairings

Posted by RRAlchemist on 17 June 2009 - 04:12 AM in Naruto General

I'm typically not a fan of crack pairings, but I can't help but like Anko x Kakashi and Naruto x TenTen.



#216147 Which Deceased Naruto Character Do You Miss The Most? 2.0 *Warning: Spoilers...

Posted by RRAlchemist on 03 March 2009 - 05:22 AM in Uzumaki Naruto Chronicles

Itachi and Kakashi (if he's really dead)... *sigh* shamefulcry0js.gif



#216028 What Are You Feeling Right Now?

Posted by RRAlchemist on 02 March 2009 - 08:29 AM in Fun Cafe

QUOTE (BlackLightning @ Mar 1 2009, 11:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hungry and The newbie's avatar above me isn't helping, much less the fresh meat icon there *Drool*


Amused/Sadistic/Satisfied tongue.gif



#215959 What Are You Feeling Right Now?

Posted by RRAlchemist on 02 March 2009 - 12:40 AM in Fun Cafe

C.R.E.A.T.I.V.E./I.N.S.P.I.R.E.D.



#215956 Chapter 437 Discussion

Posted by RRAlchemist on 02 March 2009 - 12:18 AM in Latest Releases

QUOTE (Askia31 @ Mar 1 2009, 03:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
lol if Naruto can't remember Hinata confessed to him because of KN6.


Funny enough, that would be the only way I would be okay with Hinata living through this. Like he wakes up or something and freaks out that she's okay and then when he asks her what it was she said to him before he went six-tails she gets all shy again and says it wasn't anything important.

Anyway, it's not because I don't like her or anything, but I really hope Hinata stays dead (It's funny to me how it's okay to say something like that in any context, but w/e XD). As weird as it sounds, I just think her death could bring so much more to the story than her survival. All things considered, I honestly think this chapter had just two purposes, neither of which really involve developing pairings. 1) It brought Hinata full-circle and had her finally overcome her shyness to protect someone she cares about, and 2) Her death caused Naruto to go six-tails. But since fans seem to have the uncanny ability of being able to make pairings the center of everything, I think that after this is all over that NaruHina still only has a 1 in 5 (20%) chance of beginning to just develop (not even happen yet) assuming that she lives through this, and I think even that's being generous.

Then again, I've been wrong about a couple of other seemingly obvious pairings. I'm hoping Kishi doesn't disregard all the development between Naruto and Sakura for the sake of pleasing some fans, and though I really don't think he will I'm not going to feel at ease until Hinata is certainly, without a doubt, stabbed by Pain in the chest/stomach/head/something, dead as a doorknob.



#215926 Um... Hello?

Posted by RRAlchemist on 01 March 2009 - 06:52 PM in Ninja Academy Enrolment

So basically, I found this site a couple of days ago, tried to register yesterday, and then discovered that I had apparently registered here before... in 2007. I'm going to take a wild guess and say that's the longest anyone's ever taken to introduce themselves. I can't say I'm proud of that, but better late than never... I hope.

Either way, I'm RRAlchemist. If you can find another name for me that shortens that up, go right ahead and use it. Because I know I'll be asked this at some point, the RR used to stand for Red Robin, but I dropped it because I got really tired of all the comments saying I was named after a restaurant sleep.gif' (I swear to god I had never heard of the place when I took up that name XP). I'm 15, born and raised in the USA, and I have many interests, one of which is obviously Naruto and manga/anime in general. I'm sure you're all lovely people and I hope my time here is pleasant interacting with all of you.