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#991308 The Great Naruto Discussion Thread

Posted by Niky on 25 August 2024 - 01:01 PM in Naruto General

Guys, sorry for the off topic. 
I can't seem to edit my forum posts. What could be the problem? :sweatdrop:



#991307 Boruto: Two Blue Vortex Chapter (8)1

Posted by Niky on 25 August 2024 - 12:53 PM in Latest Releases

Everyone is calling sarada boruto's girl i guess having ns in another form is ok now that hinata got her man

 
Is simply the ultimate insult to Sakura.  :sweat:
Sarada will become the property of Hinata's son and she will also be outclassed as a fighter by Hinata's daughter). 
At the same time she, Sakura, will be outclassed as a doctor by the aforementioned daughter... 
There is no such thing as NaruSaku here. :pinch:



#991306 Boruto: Two Blue Vortex Chapter (8)1

Posted by Niky on 25 August 2024 - 12:46 PM in Latest Releases

So lets see well since I mentioned it last time. The Acolyte is not getting a season 2. Star Wars Outlaw is coming out in 10 days and signs are, it will at best be mediocre.

 

Black Myth: Wukong has apparently broke records on Steam for First Day player count. I think it was approaching 2 million last I saw.

 

Oh by the way, apparently, Jujutsu Kaisen has 5 chapters left. Oh by  the way Nobara is alive.

 

Summary Time: Chapter 13... Into the second year of this. Prescience...predicting the future? If they could do that, they wouldn't be in this mess.

 

Cover page is Bolt.

 

Tree-Jenga was about to kill Bolt till Tree-Bug, named Mamushi, popped out of him to inform him Tree-Moegi thinks Bolt has an ally feeding info. For some stupid reason, he decides to stop himself from finishing off Bolt, because the plot can't let him kill Bolt yet. Oh and he keeps calling Bolt, Otsutsuki Boruto. Also apparently that bulb can rot...what happens to Sasuke if it rots?

 

Oh good, a flashback to when Bolt hadn't had his stupid haircut. He legitimately looks even better drawn. Bolt is being hunted by the Leaf...oh so they did chase after him. When he is contacted by a toad. Who teleport him to Clone Jiraiya, right he is involved in the plot again...why do I feel dread that some stupid explanation is about to happen. CJ has summoned Bolt to one of Orochimaru's old bases...well, I guess he doesn't need to move around anymore, once he got that pardon for any crime. The Toad is a Scientific Ninja Tool it is not real, he moves it with his chakra, and he is the one talking through it...is this to explain why they didn't try to find him out when he was summoning toads through reverse summoning? Bolt apparently could not recognize him until he put on his mask...who else does he know that uses toads that look like those and has connections to have SNT like that made? Oh Madoc full name is Sanzu, Amado. Ignoring Bolt's whining CJ asks if he was Uzumaki Boruto until recently. Bolt ask if he knows about Omnipotence and is resistant to it, he is not just like Madoc he put it together and figured it out on his own. Remember Ikemoto's character are always smarter than any of Kishimoto's stupid characters like Shikamaru.

 

Ah, he has the Power of Prescience doesn't he? He says he knew those events would happen ahead of time. More Shinjutsu BS. Apparently, at the end of his fight with Jenga this power awakened within him. Which is why he fled and we didn't see him for the rest of part one. Oh no, there is another tree person, I can't tell who because of the art and also none of the characters stand out.

 

Oh right throughout conversation they talk about about their previous encounters, that I don't care about. Bolt doesn't forgive him at first for killing Ao, till he does.

 

Ah, here is the stupid explanation. Certain Kara members were implanted with cell of Otsutsuki Shibai granting them Shinjutsu. Punk got his Belt marks, Moe got reflection powers, Hime has Omnipotence, and he sees the future...good news at least that isn't one of Hime's like me and Phantom feared. i think they mentioned this in part one but only the siblings they have added both Punk and CJ to the list but not the others conveniently. His power is to see possible futures. One of the futures is if Nail had killed Bolt at the end of part one he would have also killed Salad and then Punk would have defeated him and fed him to the tree...so even the manga knows that his plan was stupid. Apparently, CJ had used his power to train Bolt by seeing future powers he would have gotten later on as well as accelerating his training and optimizing his learning...that is useful.

 

Apparently, most possible futures are and then Nail is fed to the tree and everyone dies. Which is honestly kind of funny for how much he was hype up in part one. Now he is just guy who constantly gets fooled, beaten, and most likely fed to a tree. The data must have shown fans really didn't care for him.

 

Flashback over. Surprisingly, Nail has not tried to kill Bolt while he was out. Seriously he has been single mindlessly focus on killing Bolt no matter what so far, but now he got the perfect chance he stays his hand. The daughter wakes up and insta-heals everyone...huh, apparently I have Prescience too or more likely I am very used to this story and how this trite plays itself out. I also see this as further proof Sakura is not going to appear. As why do they need her? When they have the Daughter, who is a far better healer now. They do put cuffs on Bolt while he is out.

 

The chapter ends with Tree-Sasuke being restored and another Tree persons about to be spawned...it's kind of hard to care about the threat as no one but Bolt can fight them and he can one shot them. Also, I'm getting a full side view of Tree-Moegi at the end while I finish typing this...she doesn't have much in the front but has a nice backside. Again, Ikemoto seems to be a legs guy that doesn't seem that interested in the chest department.

 

Trying to find an image I can use...Here. Look at the last panel does it seem off or is it just me?

https://borutochapte...9-714x1024.webp

 

The last image is drawn quite well.... Are the central figures in an elevated position? 
 
Moegi's drawing at the top, on the other hand, is strange.... It looks like she has had a piece cut off (on her hips and leg).
However, she is very thin despite the backside.



#991235 The Great Naruto Discussion Thread

Posted by Niky on 22 July 2024 - 08:29 PM in Naruto General

 

Nope, it is official. IDW is promoting it.

Ah, ok. Thank you.




#991233 The Great Naruto Discussion Thread

Posted by Niky on 22 July 2024 - 05:15 PM in Naruto General

This isn't an official project, is it? It looks to me like a fan project...




#991232 Boruto: Two Blue Vortex Chapter (8)1

Posted by Niky on 22 July 2024 - 05:08 PM in Latest Releases

As usual thank you, Bail... You have infinite patience! :thanks:

 

So, Salad looks more and more like the typical damsel in distress... Poor girl, she is now branded as Boruto's future woman and, as a fighter, she was also overtaken in a corner kick by Hinata's daughter.... What a miserable life! :pinch:

 

There is no escaping this unpleasant fate, which will of course be foisted on us as the happiest possible future for her. :down:

 

When this Boruto tomfoolery began, I didn't know whether her being Uchiha would save her from the unfortunate fate to which female figures in this franchise are subjected (excluding Himechan's daughter, of course), namely that of becoming sentimental appendages of the protagonist...
I now have the answer. :sad:

It is tragic to know how this will all end when I despise the BS couple with all my might... And some SS fans even say that this pairing was done because Ikemoto is a NaruSaku fan... Give me a break!




#991208 The Great Naruto Discussion Thread

Posted by Niky on 06 July 2024 - 12:04 PM in Naruto General

The anime staff lusted after Nana Mizuki and the idealized woman they created in Hinata Hyuga.

 

Hinata was just originally a minor character that Kishimoto cared so little about he didn't even given her much of a story. First, to the character beaten up by Naruto's opponent to make the reader more invested in the tournament fight, and then, to marry that person to show how far they had come due to Naruto's influence. His lack of care meant he didn't interfere when he should have; when they started adding traits and scenes to make her "Naruto's perfect woman" at least according to the anime. However, no matter how important they tried to make her in the anime she would always be unimportant because she isn't tied in anyway to the main story. When they tried to do that at the end and then tried to make the entire story about her with The Last it helped to destroy the franchise

 

Nana Mizuki was a young beautiful twenty year old woman that was just starting out when she got the role as Hinata. And it is very clear the anime staff lusted after her. So, they did anything they could to make sure that she had to keep coming to their offices as often as possible, so they could look at her. Which means Hinata constantly appearing in filler. Stephanie Sheh has said she was annoyed by her role as Hinata as she would constantly have to come in to do a recording and be informed she was only going to say one line, "Naruto," over and over. As for Nana Mizuki thought on this, I don't know, but I will point out once she got herself established the roles she picks seem to be the opposite of Hinata as possible or at least an interesting take on the archetype at the minimum; especially after 2014 when her characters cause both Toriko and Naruto to go under.

 

Japanese Otaku are the same in and out of the anime staff so they liked Nana/Hinata, and hated Neji as he was her intended love interest.

 

American fans and western fans tend to be spilt on gender. Males like her because the perfect woman and the ultimate victory over girls like Sakura that friend-zoned them. Females like her because they felt inserted and saw themselves as the perfect victimized princess and Sakura was wrongfully stealing the man that belong to her.

 

In the end it was more they wanted their fantasies to come true and convince people to see how they did; than wanting to trick their audience.

 

Ouch, this is definitely disturbing! :wot:

 

If so, Mizuki makes me feel a bit sorry for her because, although she may have felt flattered by such attention at the beginning, in the long run this (with its consequences...I remember the reactions of Japanese fans to Toriko's case) can become unbearable.

 

An idealized woman... Indeed. :mellow:

 

What has always bothered me a great deal is how so-called hime-sama-dono-san-kun-chan fans have always preferred to (intentionally?) charge the character with characteristics that she openly does not possess.

They want to portray her as kind, selfless, sweet, compassionate, empathetic, modest, courageous... But in reality she is indeed shy and polite (and has nice big breasts) but also cowardly, uninteresting, vain, self-centered, and without any special talent.

 

Her love for Naruto is not great but obsessive. And it became so obsessive precisely because it was a means of making sense of her life on the one hand and of escaping unwanted responsibilities on the other. This poor girl does not love and has no interest in anything but Naruto. She would sacrifice everything and everyone for him (including her children). :sad:

 

In my opinion, the slap given to Kawaki in Boruto is also to be read in this light too. As a reaction of jealousy toward a boy who is as obsessed with Naruto as she is rather than concern for her son. :sweatdrop:

We should also add that Boruto authors had to get her to do something at that time given the attention Sakura was getting with the Sasusaku spin-off (which Pierrot undertook to make with as little effort and resources as possible).

 

Here, the problem with Hinata's character is that she only becomes interesting when she becomes something she is not or gets something she does not have by stealing it from others (or, better yet, when her simps gives her something after snatching it from others and then insults and denigrates them).

 

Shall we then talk about how the character is exalted and called more beloved because instead of one child she has had two (not even if she had had six!)?!?

Ah, I don't bring sexism into this any more... Given due distinctions, I have seen similar talk among female audiences in other contexts. I just see it as a childish, shallow and petty attitude… A victimhood even aggressive and vindictive.

 

Similar stances and sentiments at the base of a story… What kind of audience can they attract (other than one with no critical sense)? And worst of all is that the responsibles for this debacle do not care, preferring to denigrate and mock those who point it out to them the problems with the story concept by exacerbating fandom mood. -_-

 

About Neji and the pettiness displayed by certain staff characters we could open a separate chapter... However, right now, perhaps death has saved our boy... Think about how they would have involved him in this horror. :roll:

 

Oh, and before I forget...

After this, maybe we'll talk about how for some people Ikemoto would be a Narusaku fan in disguise :omfg: ...

One thing at a time. :wink:




#991206 The Great Naruto Discussion Thread

Posted by Niky on 04 July 2024 - 04:15 PM in Naruto General

They wanted a sequel, they wanted the huge international fanbase that Naruto was famed for, and they were told Hinata was the desired love interest for Naruto by a majority of the fan base; of course push along by her fanatics in the anime staff. SS happening was to put away the spare and make a love interest for the sequel's main character. On paper, there should have been no problem.

 

However. The fanbase that supported Hinata being the love interest was overblown. They destroyed the original story to make it happen. Their new main character is unlikable. They added problems to the ending pairings when their supporters desired them to be perfect and flawless fantasy relationships. Also the person they put in charge of the sequel made a poorly drawn, drawn out, and uninteresting story that disinterested most people.

Hello, Bail!

it is always a pleasure to read your posts!

 

Absolutely. they wanted their cake and eat it. I agree.

it's just that I didn't know what the initial idea was.
The fact that the first step was taken out of a feeling of doormatism (really childish, come to think of it) came to me while reading a blog in which I participate, where written testimonies of ways of working within anime production are reported. I was very struck, while reading these excerpts, by the testimony of an animator.

He reported that, in an anime production, the decision of one fairly powerful person can decide the fate of an entire work.

 

Therefore, thinking about how then hime-sama-kun-dono-san-chan is defended, hailed, and justified in the various versions of Naruto-Boruto, I really began to think that it was the excessive devotion to that character the main reason for the decision that started it all. But then, of course, one also had to try to drag along as many readers as possible....

There, that was the sore point. How can you raise a new and large generation of readers when you treat your readers as morons as these producers did.

I must admit, however, that with some of the fandom they did it. I'm talking about the ones I see justifying this stylistic and narrative horror at every turn.
And then I wonder if they are not really trying to build up an audience that is completely devoid of critical sense, or if they simply despise the audience they are addressing.

 

studio pierrot didn't help. there was even an omake about how they loved hinata and also notes by the studio for an episode with neji where they claim neji was a pervert who was stealing hinata from naruto. not to mention a whole movie about nh written by a writer who probably knew nothing about naruto since she normally wrote live action romance stories

Hello!

Yeah, Studio Pierrot didn't help at all.

 

 

 




#991202 The Great Naruto Discussion Thread

Posted by Niky on 03 July 2024 - 02:26 PM in Naruto General

Hello everyone! :love: :love: :love:
Guys, is everyone well? Sorry for my long silence: I had lost my password for the forum. I finally managed to find it! :sweatdrop:

We are ten years after the end of Naruto. What do you think, having reached this point?

I've been pondering lately…

When the story ended I wondered about the reason for such a decision.... Surely, while they wanted to continue the series with a new generation, it could have been carried on EQUALLY with Naruto and Sasuke's children. There would have been no need to necessarily pair them with Hinata and Sakura (respectively). Then... why?
I thought about it and this is my assumption.

Those who wanted the ending thought it for HINATA. I don't know if it was out of zealotry toward the character or toward the voice actress, but anyway so I believe.

Why I think this I will calmly explain in more posts. In the meantime, tell me what you think.
I have always loved the debates in our forum! :yes: