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#991336 The Great Naruto Discussion Thread

Posted by totherpage95 on 14 September 2024 - 08:32 PM in Naruto General

To be honest the moment a sequel trilogy was going to be made the old eu canon was going to be removed. George lycas himself never saw it as canon and at best just used a few ideas from the eu or give a little import like the history of the sith with darth bane or palpatine's sith master. Heck his ideas were etheir going to be about the Willis or darth maul and darth talon with having a underground criminal empire. So no thawn or yu zang vong. Plus I doubt genreal audience was to read about 20 to 30 decades of spin of novels, comics and games to understand a sequel trilogy from the eu timeline, they will have so many questions like chewbacca dead, along with why their is a galactic federation instead of a new Republic

yeah true but like i said the replacement isn't better than what was removed




#991314 The Great Naruto Discussion Thread

Posted by totherpage95 on 26 August 2024 - 04:13 PM in Naruto General

Wouldn't say Hollywood is in decline, most of their films have had a good year, compared to last year. Like dune part 2, kong x godzilla new empire, Kingdom of the planet of the apes, as well as Disney with inside our 2 and deadpool & wolverine being the 2 highest grossing films of the year so far. The only real failure I can think of is the acolyte that was cancelled, though star wars might have a chance to recover with skeleton crew this year.

I can top that Bail with one ss fan I agree on twitter a couple of years back saying how they loved sasuke trying to kill sakura, because it showed how far he fell to darkness trying to kill, completely ignore that his breaking point what when he stabbed karin to get to danzo.

Pretty sure they wanted hinata to become important and be the heroine, which they got but it failed

At this point the one thing lucasfilm could do is put effort into a knights of the old republic live version. No sense cancelling something and not have anything to replace it. After disney's recent fiasco where they added a non litigation portion to their terms of service which came up when one of their customers died i won't lie I'm not in much hurry to subscribe to disney plus with so much to risk. Much of their problem is the insistence on removing established lore and replacing it with things like "vergences". Why remove prior lore when the new lore doesn't make sense. It's the same problem that the sequel trilogy movies have and lets be honest if disney isn't going to bother releasing something good then just adapt a popular game to keep the brand from being abandoned from understandably upset fans



#991299 The Great Naruto Discussion Thread

Posted by totherpage95 on 19 August 2024 - 11:31 AM in Naruto General

Doubt it's ture. Also totherpage95 what the heck the live action was good!

Maybe I'm just not big on one piece. I was enjoying the bits of street fighter: assassin's fist i saw at risucon though



#991298 The Great Naruto Discussion Thread

Posted by totherpage95 on 19 August 2024 - 11:26 AM in Naruto General

Lmao yahagi roasting us



#991285 The Great Naruto Discussion Thread

Posted by totherpage95 on 13 August 2024 - 09:53 PM in Naruto General

holy kitten i met her at sacanime  :cry:




#991278 The NEW NaruSaku Debate Thread

Posted by totherpage95 on 12 August 2024 - 04:20 AM in Icha Icha NaruSaku

https://fandomwire.c...-sorry-for-her/

:sick:




#991272 The Great Naruto Discussion Thread

Posted by totherpage95 on 06 August 2024 - 04:49 AM in Naruto General

Eh i didn't care for one piece's live action compared to sailor moon's




#991262 Boruto: Two Blue Vortex Chapter (8)1

Posted by totherpage95 on 01 August 2024 - 11:37 PM in Latest Releases

Everyone is calling sarada boruto's girl i guess having ns in another form is ok now that hinata got her man




#991259 The Great Naruto Discussion Thread

Posted by totherpage95 on 30 July 2024 - 03:57 PM in Naruto General

I mean with regard to american comics the stories of dc having the creators of popular characters like batman and superman sign away their right to what they made is ridiculous to me...

As for the Acolyte disney's greed combined with the staff at lucasfilm has created a canon story with the jedi as the baddies and the sith as the saviors fans should be beyond divided (but hey orochimaru got a pass and naruto fans stick it out anyway when will we learn). With the naruto crossover I'm not sure it'll go into romance either but i heard something about those naruto episodes they announced last year being made this year or next year so funny how they can crank out boruto but they want to "maintain quality" with naruto even if it means delaying for over a year. 




#991218 Rurouni Kenshin anime is Returning

Posted by totherpage95 on 07 July 2024 - 02:57 PM in Otaku Square

Well its kinda difficult to promote this due to the association with its creator

even some of the fans of the original stopped being fans because of that reason. at least in japan there's not as much of that attitude 




#991217 Sakura and Yukumo Kurama - Sakura's scrapped storyline

Posted by totherpage95 on 07 July 2024 - 02:44 PM in Naruto General

it's not impossible. in dragon quest maam(who sakura's based on) used illusion magic briefly (so if masashi wanted to he could've focused on sakura's genjutsu ability more) but maam still ultimately mainly used healing magic combined with monstrous strength and martial arts

something else that i wonder about is in the anime there's a cloak in sakura's house that says "fighting spirit" on it which we never get an explanation for. maam's parents weren't civilians (but were effectively retired) so the original plan for sakura's might have been different but if you look at beet the vandal buster and 666 satan from what i remember the heroine's parents weren't noteworthy so maybe masashi wanted to stick to that blueprint




#991205 The Great Naruto Discussion Thread

Posted by totherpage95 on 04 July 2024 - 12:14 AM in Naruto General

anyone planning on coming to otakon in august? flow is going to perform 




#991204 The Great Naruto Discussion Thread

Posted by totherpage95 on 04 July 2024 - 12:14 AM in Naruto General

They wanted a sequel, they wanted the huge international fanbase that Naruto was famed for, and they were told Hinata was the desired love interest for Naruto by a majority of the fan base; of course push along by her fanatics in the anime staff. SS happening was to put away the spare and make a love interest for the sequel's main character. On paper, there should have been no problem.

 

However. The fanbase that supported Hinata being the love interest was overblown. They destroyed the original story to make it happen. They new main character is unlikable. They added problems to the ending pairings when their supporters desired them to be perfect and flawless fantasy relationships. Also they person they put in charge of the sequel made a poorly drawn, drawn out, and uninteresting story that disinterested most people.

studio pierrot didn't help. there was even an omake about how they loved hinata and also notes by the studio for an episode with neji where they claim neji was a pervert who was stealing hinata from naruto. not to mention a whole movie about nh written by a writer who probably knew nothing about naruto since she normally wrote live action romance stories




#991173 Minato One Shot: The Whirlwind Inside The Vortex

Posted by totherpage95 on 11 June 2024 - 12:34 AM in Latest Releases

https://postimg.cc/gallery/6nC8WLp
here's a list of all the similarities i have so far




#991148 Boruto: Two Blue Vortex Chapter (8)1

Posted by totherpage95 on 25 May 2024 - 06:33 PM in Latest Releases

i doubt he's actually gone... i don't even think neji would have been killed if naruto didn't need to fall for hinata  :dry:




#991145 Boruto: Two Blue Vortex Chapter (8)1

Posted by totherpage95 on 25 May 2024 - 02:58 AM in Latest Releases

Bruh wtf was that



#991130 Naruto Live Action

Posted by totherpage95 on 20 May 2024 - 08:35 PM in Konoha Theater

https://naruto-offic...en/news/01_1726
director was announced as the person who made shang chi and the 10 rings. i did enjoy that movie and kishimoto seems happy we'll see
edit: Destin Daniel Cretton is half japanese as well




#991127 star wars the phantom menace/revenge of the sith anniversary

Posted by totherpage95 on 20 May 2024 - 01:14 AM in Arts & Entertainment District

lucasfilm remastered the trailer and rereleased the phantom menace in theaters: https://youtu.be/J3kyYFHdRsM

 
it's made 15 million already 

 

hopefully the prequel haters will won't mind this  :smile:




#991126 Minato One Shot: The Whirlwind Inside The Vortex

Posted by totherpage95 on 19 May 2024 - 12:20 AM in Latest Releases

https://www.youtube....h4lqcAQMl0634nz
someone else animated the one shot. i really enjoyed it  :smile: can't blame naruto for doing rasengan in his sleep it just seems natural  :D




#991103 Whats your OTP now that NS was given the pipe?

Posted by totherpage95 on 11 May 2024 - 08:51 PM in Icha Icha NaruSaku

Gourry x Lina
 
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After hearing that Hajime Kanzaka has decided to work on a 16th Slayers novel (and given that the last volume ended with Lina thinking that Gourry will propose to her as they return to her hometown), I have to restate my love for this couple.

https://youtu.be/1FPjMhBPth0
I just wanted to share this amazing amv i saw recently



#991102 Did NaruSaku only have a chance because Sasuke was away?

Posted by totherpage95 on 11 May 2024 - 08:39 PM in Naruto General

 
 
I'd make the argument that Seishi kept Ruby Crescent (the heroine) a core integral component to the narrative of O-Parts Hunter, and specifically to Jio Freed since the first chapter of the series all the way to the end. You could just tell inseparable  Seishi made Jio and Ruby which really shows.  The final chapter cover also speaks a lot on that front too.
 
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Masashi really needed the same touch that Seishi had when it came to developing his female characters and of course the romance aspect of it for Naruto and Sakura. 
 
 
I do wish so much that we got the same level of love and care for NaruSaku especially in the later half of Part 2 without Masashi throwing a bone to get the fandoms to wag their tails... like "OMG could it be? Could it be?"  and I'm just like thinking.... as an aspiring writer..... this is not how to win over your readers when it comes to developing romance between two characters. 
 
 
I know the argument a lot of people make is "Well Naruto isn't a romance therefore it's fine we didn't get a lot of focus..."  that has always been such a poor excuse I've heard time and time again.
 
 
Which, I'm gonna say this.... if romance isn't gonna be a super integral piece to the narrative of your story.... which is totally fine because any writer has the freedom to do that, but...  here's my advice.... Don't just fool around with your readers about which couple will be canon..... 
 
If you as the writer already know from the conception of your story that this couple is going to be canon then just focus on developing that pairing as you are telling the story you've created. 
 
 
That is definitely the #1 thing Masashi didn't understand when it came to Naruto. 

Yeah unfortunately i think Masashi was invested in copying the adventure of dai's romance/love trapezoid. Then i think he regretted his choice and didn't make a love triangle in samurai 8.



#991091 Did NaruSaku only have a chance because Sasuke was away?

Posted by totherpage95 on 09 May 2024 - 07:21 PM in Naruto General

 

 

One thing I learned after 700 chapters of Naruto and 6 years following the manga  It's that there's one thing Kishimoto loves more than trolling and drama. Those are plot twists, no matter how surprising or poorly done, especially after a Talk no Jutsu from Naruto. A discerning reader will readily identify the recurring pattern.

 

Zabuza saying he didn't care about Haku and he didn't mean nothing to him, but after a Talk no Jutsu, he went on to love him. 

 

Gaara, hated by the village and killing everyone, then became the Kazekage after a Talk no Jutsu. 

 

Nagato reviving the entire village after Naruto's TnJ.

 

Itachi, a psychopath who killed the clan in front of his brother and tortured him to the limits of insanity, becomes a martyr and a loving brother after his death.

 

Kishimoto wouldn't throw in a second declaration of love for Sakura in the last volume of the manga for nothing. Everyone, including NaruSaku fans, should be aware of the possibility of Sasuke's 180-degree shift in relation to Sakura and the potential for repressed feelings to be shown after his fight against Naruto and Naruto's Talk no Jutsu.

 


 

I  consider only the Boruto manga non canon because it wasn't written, illustrated and even  Kishimoto's supervision hasn't been confirmed yet.

 
Regardless of the theory – whether Kishimoto always had everything planned out or if he changed his mind due to some editorial influence – the fact remains that he written and illustrated everything in the original Naruto manga.    Therefore, everything written in those chapters should be taken into account.

 


 

Sasuke was lying. The fact that he called her "annoying" again was clearly a callback to the first time, showing that he remembered and Sakura got the reference.

 

 

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Sakura never thought about or had any flashbacks about this scene.

If the fact that the fake Sasuke complimented her forehead was so important for Sakura

 

Kishimoto should at least have shown a flashback to this scene at some point during 700 + 10 chapters  to demonstrate how iconic this moment was for Sakura. However, this never happened.

 

 


 

Just as NaruSaku became stronger than SasuSaku in Part 2 due to Sasuke's absence and his descent into "darkness" by trying to kill her and destroy the Village.

 

SasuSaku was stronger than NaruSaku in Part 1  Sakura openly loved Sasuke and always wanted to be near him. Additionally, Sasuke wasn't a jerk and considered Sakura important enough to protect or even sacrifice his life and revenge goal for her. But this is just opinion and I will not delve deeper into this theme.

 

 


 


 

 

The issue is that none of Sakura's confessions to Sasuke have been classified as false or a simple blind infatuation. She wasn't forced or influenced by anyone neither.

 

In the first one, Sasuke himself thanked her. Naruto recognized that her love was real, and that's why he did the POAL when he saw how much she was suffering.  If it were a simple blind infatuation, there would be no reason for the POAL to exist in first place.

 

In the second one, when Sasuke said that he had no reason to love her, Kakashi scolded him, saying how true Sakura's love was and she still wanted to save him even after everything. This led Sasuke to do a complete 180-degree turn towards Sakura after the fight against Naruto

 

Sakura's confession to Naruto was influenced by the circumstances surrounding Sasuke and Sai blaming her for the POAL.

 

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Sai himself admits:

 

 

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I really doubt that Sakura would even consider making a love declaration to Naruto if Sai hadn't interfered.

Much less  in a Part 2 scenario with Sasuke in the village, without committing crimes and Sai blamming her for the POAL. Second point Naruto basically admitted that Sakura didn't love him, and she was lying to herself.

 

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Naruto placed his goal to save Sasuke above both the POAL and Sakura, ultimately undoing the POAL.

 

 

 

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Sakura later simply confirms her love for Sasuke during the war in her first scene. 

Despite the fact that many NaruSaku fans don't accept it, the NaruSaku ship may have truly sunk in this chapter.

Afterward, at most, there are only arguments based on parallels and hopes that Sakura will move on from Sasuke, or that Sasuke won't return to the village or ever be redeemed.

 

 

 

you ss fans would gladly push a button to change the series to "sasuke" instead of "naruto" if it existed  :lmao:  this point where sakura confesses to sasuke just tells me he was trying to spare her feelings by lying and saying he didn't remember the bench moment... he was trying to be kind and convince her to leave him and continue a life separate from his. that doesn't mean he was in love with her and when sakura continued to claim she understood why he was leaving and what he was going through sasuke switched tactics and started to be more cold toward her. the opinion that sakura nearly kissing sasuke wasn't a factor in her feelings for him isn't one i agree with because it is the only major time "sasuke" reciprocated feelings for her romantically .....of course you can form an opinion that it didn't mean much but i highly disagree. why believe that sakura would be in love with sasuke if naruto without being transformed to pretend to be sasuke had said and done these things with sakura? she already was impressed with naruto when he went for kakashi in the bell test, they supported one another in the chunin exam, and naruto saved her from gaara. as for the second confession sakura did and comparing it to other times characters have done the right thing in the series well nagato always deep down wanted to do the right thing these feelings you claim are "repressed" are not visible at any time which is the problem there... gaara had a terrible upbringing it isn't unlikely he could find a new path. zabuza raised haku it isn't a stretch to find out he cared about him after haku sacrificed his life to save his. and itachi's motivations were properly explained it wasn't a 180 degree change of character but rather a secret that the higher ups in the leaf village and itachi kept from sasuke and the readers/viewers it's not comparable to some sort of "repressed feelings"  :confused:. the confession was yet another parallel for kakashi and rin. kakashi in this case did not have any feelings for rin so why would sasuke? logically the only real reason sasuke and sakura ended up with one another is likely because of the ship's popularity. kishimoto was trying to nail the coffin shut on ss because he likely didn't like them ending up with one another (as shown whenever he was asked about the ship in interviews). yes he made them canon but i doubt he liked doing that he clearly opposed nh in the kage summit arc he stated "sakura is the heroine not hinata". if the confession was the end of narusaku why have kushina and sakura be a parallel later? why have naruto tell his father sakura was his girlfriend?




#991089 Did NaruSaku only have a chance because Sasuke was away?

Posted by totherpage95 on 09 May 2024 - 06:20 PM in Naruto General

it's like saying "kakashi and rin would have happened". why even ask for that? if not for obito kakashi would have let rin die... 
kishimoto and his brother were probably close so he wanted to keep the team the way it was in the story. even in dragon quest/hunterxhunter/o-parts hunter they all have a character kind of like sasuke




#991077 Did NaruSaku only have a chance because Sasuke was away?

Posted by totherpage95 on 06 May 2024 - 03:33 PM in Naruto General

From looking at your other posts you clearly have a bias for sasusaku.



#991076 Did NaruSaku only have a chance because Sasuke was away?

Posted by totherpage95 on 06 May 2024 - 03:25 PM in Naruto General

I don't agree ss was strong in part 1... Yes sasuke saved sakura in the forest but he later told sakura it was actually naruto who saved her from gaara and he didn't care when sakura kept trying to win his affection... This all is referenced from dragon quest and that series didn't promote the ss parallel 😅kishimoto even in interviews laments ss despite making it canon. From my pov it's clear he didn't fancy ss as much as the fans he simply made them canon to please ss fans. There's just no evidence of sasuke loving her he keeps calling her annoying he cares for her as a friend or family member because he never had family