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#991313 The Great Naruto Discussion Thread

Posted by Kagomaru on 26 August 2024 - 03:30 PM in Naruto General

 

No Bryon, MHA didn't suffer the same fate as Naruto. The only reason why people assumed that because shipping fans were pissed off of the fact that Izuku didn't hook up with Ochaco (by ignoring hints, placements and BTS stuff on the reasons why they didn't happen) and the finale parts were rushed for "certain reasons that were beyond Horikoshi's control". MHA's saving grace was the themes of its story was still in place, unlike Naruto's.

And a resolution for Izuku x Ochako is likely going to be covered in the additional story content that Horikoshi talked about for the Final Volume as well as the databook that's going to be compiled.




#991284 The NEW NaruSaku Debate Thread

Posted by Kagomaru on 13 August 2024 - 05:38 PM in Icha Icha NaruSaku

Well well well.... Where is the true love now? That said, this speaks to me as pure incompetence. I have no empathy points for this explanation. Just saying. 

It doesn't help that we know that this was just more damage control on his part to cover the asses of WSJ's editors because he gave into external pressure from them and SP.




#991281 The NEW NaruSaku Debate Thread

Posted by Kagomaru on 13 August 2024 - 04:23 AM in Icha Icha NaruSaku

I mean, I've been referencing this interview regarding Masashi's reasoning for choosing Hinata for years, so this isn't news to me. It was even brought up by Naruto himself in the Last novelization that he felt guilty for not realizing how she felt, not because he had feelings for her(even though she told him to his freakin' face in the Pain battle and is emotionally intelligent enough to know that it wasn't the equivalent of loving food  :wallbash: ). And Masashi still dared to illustrate them as a dysfunctional couple and even worse parents.




#991277 Whats your OTP now that NS was given the pipe?

Posted by Kagomaru on 07 August 2024 - 03:47 PM in Icha Icha NaruSaku

If this doesn't make happy those who didn't like 154 ending, so that their problem.

From what I've seen, people absolutely love the extra chapter for the manga. There are those who still wish Nanashi had added the one-use only ticket as part of the finale(especially since he confirmed that he still remembers it), but that's probably something that'll be included in the one-shot. Or an officialized doujin to be on the safer side.




#991275 Whats your OTP now that NS was given the pipe?

Posted by Kagomaru on 07 August 2024 - 02:23 PM in Icha Icha NaruSaku

Well, "Please Don't Bully Me, Miss Nagatoro!" has officially concluded and I'm happy with the ending. The bonus chapter that Nanashi drew for the last volume honestly wraps up the story far better than 154 did, and I look forward to the proposed one-shots of Hayase and Naoto featuring living together as a college couple.




#991197 Black Clover

Posted by Kagomaru on 28 June 2024 - 10:21 AM in Otaku Square

So, it looks like Tabata will be releasing two chapters of Black Clover simultaneously next month.  A part of me is hoping that getting two chapter releases every four months will be a standard for him going forward, but I won't get my hopes up.

And it turns out I was right.  Tabata's new modus operandi is to produce two elongated chapters every four months.




#991193 Whats your OTP now that NS was given the pipe?

Posted by Kagomaru on 26 June 2024 - 01:29 AM in Icha Icha NaruSaku

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Hiro - The modern day king of shounen romance strikes gold once again with another couple! 

 

 

Shicca (Shiki x Rebecca)  - Edens Zero 

 

 

6 Years of storytelling, and build up within the story with subtle romance that was core to the narrative of Eden's Zero ended with Shiki and Rebecca becoming a couple, and at the same time... THEY BECAME NEW PARENTS TO THEIR FIRST NEWBORN DAUGHTER!!

 

 

 

 

PS -  I would show a picture of Shiki, Rebecca, and their baby however that wasn't shown in the magazine and some pages were definitely missing because other series also run in Weekly Shounen Magazine. Hiro will mostly showcase the missing pages with Shiki, Rebecca and their baby girl when the final volume comes out in August. 

Yeah, it was a beautiful ending, though I do feel bad that Shiki (Ziggy) missed the opportunity to have proper closure with his Rebecca (Chronophage). Not to mention the added tragedy of Ziggy being forced to kill their own son.




#991056 The Great Naruto Discussion Thread

Posted by Kagomaru on 24 April 2024 - 05:00 PM in Naruto General

I'm not sure he even realises that they did this with naruto

Of course they do, that's why this statement is both ironic and hypocritical.  It's why they keep trying to bait old fans back with NaruSaku subtext in Boruto, or even why they had Naruto insult Hinata in an episode for choosing to fight beside him over protecting their children and even dedicate an episode to illustrate that there's little to no romance in their relationship. However, they're never going to outright admit that they made a poor decision (based on their own bias as well as their misread of the western audience investment in this ship) that drastically affected the series' quality, popularity and profitability.




#991041 The Great Naruto Discussion Thread

Posted by Kagomaru on 18 April 2024 - 08:01 PM in Naruto General

Accidental double-post.




#991040 The Great Naruto Discussion Thread

Posted by Kagomaru on 18 April 2024 - 08:00 PM in Naruto General

...So, according to the spoilers, it turns out that Himawari has a smaller version of Kurama existing in her body,  which is why she's so abnormally strong.

 

 

 

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#991039 Whats your OTP now that NS was given the pipe?

Posted by Kagomaru on 18 April 2024 - 07:49 PM in Icha Icha NaruSaku

Hey Kagomaru it is true that Nagatoro ended?

No, the manga's still ongoing and there haven't been any formal announcements about it coming to an end.




#991017 Black Clover

Posted by Kagomaru on 29 March 2024 - 07:22 PM in Otaku Square

So, it looks like Tabata will be releasing two chapters of Black Clover simultaneously next month.  A part of me is hoping that getting two chapter releases every four months will be a standard for him going forward, but I won't get my hopes up.




#990998 The Great Naruto Discussion Thread

Posted by Kagomaru on 18 March 2024 - 06:40 AM in Naruto General

What bothers me about neutrality with fictional romance and taking it for as it is that viewers often forget the context of such things. Yes Naruto is a shonen battle manga that does not focus on romance as a theme per say but again there always that difference from other shonen manga that don't care about romance and make couples last second or treat it as a joke at best. Naruto has ALWAYS had feelings for Sakura and it is not a silly childhood crush or a fleeting feeling that he was not serious about or else there would never have been a POAL in the first place. Naruto shows complete selflessness towards Sakura and maturity in putting her happiness above his own. Sakura in turn shows that in her worst circumstances when she is most vulnerable and lost and upset and powerless it was Naruto that comforts her and listens to her problems. that lays the very foundation of how close they become throughout the story. I'm not going to repeat the moments they have together because it would just be redundant at this point. Think of it like this, What if Rurouni Kenshin remained unchanged in it's story and plot but Watsuki decided last second that Kenshin is would be happier with Megumi as his wife because she is more feminine and does not emasculate him, or maybe she looks more like his first wife and chucks all that development with Kaoru out the window. That is essentially what Naruto did at the end, it chucked the development between Naruto and Sakura out the window for a side character that has no real importance to the plot and for the main character in general. What if Slam Dunk resolved the love triangle with Kaede getting together with getting together with Haruko despite not showing any affection for her and doesn't care about romance in general and Haruko saying Hanamichi was only shallowly interested in her? Again That is what Naruto did. Naruto is not like other shonen series in that there is not romantic development at all and the author can slap together couples however they feel last second and whatever pleases them. Naruto had a love interest and they developed together progressively throughout the series and they owe a large part of their growth to each other. Typical romance writing in fiction, even if there is not an emphasis on it. This is different from Dragon Ball where Goku had no such moments with Bulma so who cares if he married Chichi? 

 

I know I haven't posted for a while But I just want to put that out there. In terms of Neutrality, context is very important if not everything

Hell, a similar situation happened to Devil is a Part-Timer.  The author went through over 20 volumes of developing Mao and Emi's relationship, unambiguously showcasing how their former animosity towards each other gradually becomes mutual attraction (with Mao explicitly admitting to himself that he enjoys seeing Emi's smile and wished to always protect her happiness, with him even noting that the emotions she arouses in him are nothing that he's ever felt before). This includes them even co-parenting a child and even establishing that Mao had a shared history with Emi's family that dates back to him meeting her mother as a child.  But what does the author do?  He tosses that development in the trash and put the main male lead with the obsessive big-boobed highschool girl that he's never entertained a single romantic thought about beyond friendship because of shock value and his own fetish.  And what did this result in?  Japanese fans review-bombing the hell out of the final volume of the series and sending death threats to his Twitter and email account.  The second season for the anime adaptation that came out last year also became one of the worst rated anime of the year because of the crap that the author pulled in the source material.  So yeah, a good foundation does matter when developing a fictional romance.




#990993 The Great Naruto Discussion Thread

Posted by Kagomaru on 15 March 2024 - 02:36 AM in Naruto General

The Hinata heartbroken bit, that can be solved easily: have Naruto being honest with her in a private conversation, he is not interested in her romantically. It can benefit her to move on and find someone to be with her. She was never important in the first place. It was her fans (and some inside help) that were pushing her which resulted on how the franchise ended up now.

This, essentially. Not to mention that Hinata seemed perfectly resigned and content when she saw Sakura and Naruto embrace at the end of the Pain arc, which, at the time, seemed to symbolize her acceptance over their relationship. And it isn't as though unrequited love triangles haven't been a thing in shonen manga for decades now. By that logic, why is it okay for Naruto have his heart broken after pining after Sakura throughout the entire manga?




#990923 Whats your OTP now that NS was given the pipe?

Posted by Kagomaru on 06 February 2024 - 03:25 PM in Icha Icha NaruSaku

Did the new chapter came out?

Yup, it's already translated.




#990921 Whats your OTP now that NS was given the pipe?

Posted by Kagomaru on 06 February 2024 - 07:13 AM in Icha Icha NaruSaku

Senpai will confess :argh:

He did, and it was amazing. :yes:  I'm looking forward to seeing how they'll behave as a couple, especially once their friends and Nagatoro's siblings find out. :lulz:




#990919 Whats your OTP now that NS was given the pipe?

Posted by Kagomaru on 06 February 2024 - 12:55 AM in Icha Icha NaruSaku

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Please Don't Bully Me, Miss Nagatoro! - Hayase x Naoto

And this is another of my OTPs that just became official.  Like, literally minutes ago.  I'm still giddy after reading the latest chapter.  This was one of the best love confessions that I've seen in a long while. :excited:




#990894 Whats your OTP now that NS was given the pipe?

Posted by Kagomaru on 06 January 2024 - 09:10 AM in Icha Icha NaruSaku

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I'm glad to see another of my OTPs end happily for the most part.




#990852 Black Clover

Posted by Kagomaru on 17 December 2023 - 05:22 PM in Otaku Square

How many pages are these new chapters hoping to be

The new chapter is supposedly over 35 pages.




#990818 Black Clover

Posted by Kagomaru on 06 December 2023 - 05:28 AM in Otaku Square

Tabata announced that we're getting a new chapter on Christmas.




#990794 The Great Naruto Discussion Thread

Posted by Kagomaru on 28 November 2023 - 10:08 PM in Naruto General

Yep... and it worries me too.

Just don't watch it, and it'll quickly die off like Cowboy Bebop and the Titans.  One of the "virtues" of Netflix these days is that they are rather trigger-happy with cancellation if the audience reception is poor after the initial season. Especially for LA adaptations for anime and comics.




#990770 The Great Naruto Discussion Thread

Posted by Kagomaru on 25 November 2023 - 07:33 PM in Naruto General

NaruSaku represented one of the last (if not the only) bastions of truly good storytelling this series had to offer. As people have pointed out to you many times, the setup has been there since chapter 3.

This series has abandoned all attempts at meaningful storytelling, hence why Boruto is the universally acknowledged trash fire that it is. For all your sad efforts at appealing to popularity (i.e. hey guys, look at this random poll I found that ranks SasuSaku as the greatest anime pairing ever!), this is a truth you are utterly unable to ignore; your precious pairings coincide with a formerly universally popular series that has gotten so bad that an entire alternate future video game has to be released just so people might acquire some interest in the actual finished product. Whereas you see this and grow frustrated, I see this and smirk with vindication.

You keep your canon trash fire (where in recognition of how awful these characters have become, Naruto and Hinata literally become fodder for the ole stuffed in the fridge trope). I'm content with fan creations (art, doujin and fanfiction) celebrating not what is, but what could have been.

And I'm sorry, but there's no way that poll can ever be taken seriously.  NaruHina and SasuSaku ranking higher than TwiYor and Kirisuna is an absolute joke.  Especially when even the series itself has taken cracks at NaruHina by pointing out that Hinata is an incompetent mother via Naruto insulting her for abandoning their children in a crisis, to Toneri straight-out saying to Boruto that Hinata was a consolation prize for his father. 




#990724 Whats your OTP now that NS was given the pipe?

Posted by Kagomaru on 06 November 2023 - 02:44 AM in Icha Icha NaruSaku

Thats a pairing Ive been waiting to see become canon for a long time!

 

And we're so close to it.  Just from this exchange alone:

 

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#990722 Whats your OTP now that NS was given the pipe?

Posted by Kagomaru on 05 November 2023 - 06:12 PM in Icha Icha NaruSaku

C'mon, Boichi, Riichiro - Stop teasing us about Senku and Kohaku and just let them hook up already.




#990716 The NEW NaruSaku Debate Thread

Posted by Kagomaru on 31 October 2023 - 06:23 PM in Icha Icha NaruSaku

 

Honestly if they kept going with what nick Spencer did I'd see more people reading those comics. Granted they are rebooting ultimate spiderman under John Hickman telling a new adult spiderman I hear discribed of being like Peter B. Parker from spiderverse.

 
Where did he say this? If it was because of the ultimate universe, that logic would only work in a eleseworld universe without the main continuity like injustice.

Though etheir way I'm not suprised as bends has always had a mixed bag of a reputation with comicbook fans.

Nah, he made this statement years after he finished his Ultimate Spider-Man run.  And hack writers like Jason Aaron followed his lead by substantially altering long-established lore in Thor's mythos and dragging said-character's rep through the mud just to prop up Jane Foster. As for the new Ultimate Spider-Man: apparently, this version got his powers and became Spidey *after* he already had his own family.  Heck, they revived the original Ultimate Spider-Man a few years ago(don't ask why, just know that the explanation is stupid), and he's semi-retired from being a superhero while settling down with his Mary Jane.  Which is further galling and hypocritical since a major reason that they created Ultimate Spider-Man was because they were convinced Peter was more "relatable" when he was a highschool kid without any serious romantic relationships.