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#991291 The NEW NaruSaku Debate Thread

Posted by BlueStarSaber on 15 August 2024 - 07:20 PM in Icha Icha NaruSaku

Frankly I think Kishimoto changes his reason for nh with each interview



#990670 The NEW NaruSaku Debate Thread

Posted by BlueStarSaber on 04 October 2023 - 04:15 PM in Icha Icha NaruSaku

Found these videos talking about everything wrong with the ss and nh relationship

https://youtu.be/xKY...2sH1e_cIsXLlRCH

https://youtu.be/hLz...l_GQYBPzMjk_wrj



#990767 The NEW NaruSaku Debate Thread

Posted by BlueStarSaber on 25 November 2023 - 03:18 PM in Icha Icha NaruSaku

https://twitter.com/...Myul-cYWNQ&s=19



#990711 The NEW NaruSaku Debate Thread

Posted by BlueStarSaber on 27 October 2023 - 01:37 AM in Icha Icha NaruSaku

The good things they are doing is Spider-Man. Like no way home, Spider-verse and Insonmiac.

 

Honestly if they kept going with what nick Spencer did I'd see more people reading those comics. Granted they are rebooting ultimate spiderman under John Hickman telling a new adult spiderman I hear discribed of being like Peter B. Parker from spiderverse.

 

Because they listened to Bendis when he stated that established lore, personalities, relationships, etc. didn't matter and to write whatever you want in continuity.


Where did he say this? If it was because of the ultimate universe, that logic would only work in a eleseworld universe without the main continuity like injustice.

Though etheir way I'm not suprised as bends has always had a mixed bag of a reputation with comicbook fans.



#990673 The NEW NaruSaku Debate Thread

Posted by BlueStarSaber on 04 October 2023 - 05:15 PM in Icha Icha NaruSaku

Noted I think it fine to do some video and articles now and then to point out the problems to to newcomers so they see it isn't one-sided as some nh and ss fans make it out to be.

To be fair luckychi she talks about other stuff not just shipping.



#990704 The NEW NaruSaku Debate Thread

Posted by BlueStarSaber on 24 October 2023 - 11:14 PM in Icha Icha NaruSaku

Who? Are we suppose to know which dragon quest character you are referring to by instinct?
 
The anime had a lot of filler promoting Hinata because the staff was obsessed with her. It is why they ended Naruto marrying Hinata because that was their end goal all along. Without the anime, Hinata is a character that's barely involved in the story and barely interacts with Naruto despite professing love for him. With it, while she still isn't involved in the story that often, she is constantly by Naruto side, and constantly thinking about how much she loves him.
 
Most Western fans seem to hate reading anything, and prefer just to watch a tv/movie/anime and accept that as canon. I lost count of the people I have met that say they love an adaptation, that they love as well as care so much about the story, that they wish to learn more about it, but will never read the source material. Saying excuses like they want to watch all the show first before they read the book, so they won't get spoiled. Then they never read the book. Even if they do, they hold the adaptation over the source material, and will differ to that when inconsistencies happen.

I've tend to notice that with books like lord of the rings, game of thrones and Harry potter. Comics people are ethier more aware of the movies or cartoons depending on the era they grew up in and get suprised when the adaptions of comics are a mix of different stories rather than a full on adaption, though comics continuity would make it more impossible to ever full adapt stories unless their are elseworld stories. Though games have started to become as big of a medium.

My guess is because they are more accessible to watch and consume, especially with streaming services in recent years. Another reason which came from a youtuber called lily orchards who did a video on making fun of J.k.rowling, during which mentioned that due to the education system making reading more like a chore for kids, becoming less fun making it into assignments of highly revied books by adults. With some only getting back into reading when a fun book at the time like Harry potter came along.

So I wouldn't be suprised if many of the anime only watchers would view the 700 hundred chapters chore to read, even though the anime became worse than that due to filler.



#990707 The NEW NaruSaku Debate Thread

Posted by BlueStarSaber on 26 October 2023 - 11:47 AM in Icha Icha NaruSaku

Video games surpassed comics about 20 years ago, the fact that comics have been in decline since the 90's not helping them, and they surpassed Movies in profits almost ten years ago. Though that went unnoticed due to the stranglehold films have over western culture. Granted, I am assuming you are thinking games are only recently getting big due the things like, the success of the Sonic and Mario movies and such.
 
Comics despite the fact they were holding up Hollywood for the past decade, are not respected. Their stories are not respected. Their writers are not respected. Their art is not respected. Hollywood does not respect anyone but themselves. For comics, they see it as a pathetic boy hobby they want to turn into a girl hobby, since they assume the boys will just accept it, and see their fans as losers that they can milk for money. People at Marvel have made it clear they prefer to hire "fans" not fans. They see people that have actually read the comics as a red flag, and don't hire them. They want people who will do whatever they want with the IP; then use the 'bigot shield' when it backfires. Over actually making an adaptation.
 
Remember, the only reason the One Piece Live Action turned out the way it did was Oda was an executive producer and force them to follow his story. If not, the "fan" writers and "fan" directors would have made another Live Action Cowboy Bebop. Same with the Mario movie, before Nintendo intervened it was going to be another mess and then they step in.
 
As for schools making reading a chore for the students. It not a problem that they make students read for assignments the problem is that is likely the only time they ever read if at all. Hell, when I went to college, I knew a girl that never even read a single line of Shakespeare before a class we took together; because apparently the schools in California just gave them power-point outlines of the books and stories that were required reading. Harry Potter was often the only book they ever read for enjoyment; if they read them and not just said they did while only watching the movies. Which is why millennials obsess over it.
 
Watching something on TV is often a passive way of absorbing a story. Books require active absorption as you have to imagine what happening in your mind about what you are reading. One of the reasons storytelling quality has gone down in the West is because they stopped reading. Another is, they know if they play the virtue signaling game, they will be given a pass; so they don't put the work in.

No I'm talking about at least for over a decade, since games games like the last of us came out and were mega popular. I wouldn't really say that with every comicbook movie, as directors such as James gunn, josh weadon and the russo brothers I recall were comicbook fans.

From everything I have read and heard from one piece fans and youtubers nothing implies they would of done another Cowboy Bebop and that the showrunner is a passionate fan of one piece and wouldn't do anything without oda's approval. Nintendo and Mario I have no idea about, all I recall is that you had the anti woke crowd acusing it of being a feminist movie with how princess peach was portrayed in the trailer only to u-turn when the film turned out to be really popular.

You think books with pictures with link comics or managa would be at least somewhat appealing since they do have visual images to look at. Not to mention you can read a chapter like naruto in a few minutes.



#991048 The Great Naruto Discussion Thread

Posted by BlueStarSaber on 21 April 2024 - 05:03 PM in Naruto General

Head ups everyone doing a live stream with Retrospect Greg discussing the naruto live action movie announcement a few months back



#991034 The Great Naruto Discussion Thread

Posted by BlueStarSaber on 16 April 2024 - 08:16 PM in Naruto General

Well looks like spoilers for the next boruto chapter are out



#991049 The Great Naruto Discussion Thread

Posted by BlueStarSaber on 21 April 2024 - 05:59 PM in Naruto General

https://www.youtube....KKgtJIvdBTiqPbz here is the stream



#991211 The Great Naruto Discussion Thread

Posted by BlueStarSaber on 06 July 2024 - 05:19 PM in Naruto General

Yeah I doubt ikemototo is a narusaku fan



#991022 The Great Naruto Discussion Thread

Posted by BlueStarSaber on 31 March 2024 - 12:56 PM in Naruto General

Anyone else seeing alot praise for the kaguya and madara twist lately I'm wondering what's up with that?



#991151 The Great Naruto Discussion Thread

Posted by BlueStarSaber on 26 May 2024 - 09:26 AM in Naruto General

I am now 30 years old



#991061 The Great Naruto Discussion Thread

Posted by BlueStarSaber on 28 April 2024 - 07:14 PM in Naruto General

Always been a thing about which one is more popular. Naruto fans would say I more popular worldwide while one piece fans point out its the biggest manga in japan



#991053 The Great Naruto Discussion Thread

Posted by BlueStarSaber on 24 April 2024 - 12:28 PM in Naruto General

I'm not sure he even realises that they did this with naruto



#990929 The Great Naruto Discussion Thread

Posted by BlueStarSaber on 08 February 2024 - 09:16 PM in Naruto General

I meant who should have died in the war in genreal, not only among the k11



#990867 The Great Naruto Discussion Thread

Posted by BlueStarSaber on 26 December 2023 - 01:44 AM in Naruto General

Isn't that a little too naughty first evil?



#990859 The Great Naruto Discussion Thread

Posted by BlueStarSaber on 20 December 2023 - 07:03 PM in Naruto General

I'm more a fan of opening 2, 4 and 5 and 6,7, 9 and 16 in shippuden



#990834 The Great Naruto Discussion Thread

Posted by BlueStarSaber on 13 December 2023 - 01:16 PM in Naruto General

See this where I have to disagree because while yes sakura did says those things in part 1 manga or filler otherwise. You seem to left all the moments she did support naruto emotionally in the chunin exams. Like when she tried to cheer him up because she thought he was nervous because of the exams or when she was going to forfeit the 1st exam, because she didn't want to see naruto's dream crushed by Ibiki's new rule of never allowed to compete again.

Plus we showed her openly support naruto in his match against kiba and even admit that her initial thoughts about him were wrong. Along with supporting him against neji. Heck she even gave him advice for the tree climbing in the land of waves.

Arguably part 1 is a very slow burn in seeing sakura change her feelings for naruto, but it is there to see if people put in the effort to see and not have their bias in there first impressions of her or preference for another ship.



#990870 The Great Naruto Discussion Thread

Posted by BlueStarSaber on 26 December 2023 - 05:22 PM in Naruto General

I'm sure first evil can send you a message somewhere to see that picture if you asked him too




#990897 The Great Naruto Discussion Thread

Posted by BlueStarSaber on 07 January 2024 - 08:13 PM in Naruto General

Arguably because black clover moved to jump giga



#990934 The Great Naruto Discussion Thread

Posted by BlueStarSaber on 11 February 2024 - 11:48 AM in Naruto General

I think you need some deaths in for some suspence otherwise the conflict wouldn't look threatening. Heck it could even just be some recurring minor characters like those minor leaf chunin or jonin we see, some of the relatives like hiashi dying to protect neji and hinata or at least maybe knowing because he is old. As for the case with guy would of served the mentor death for Lee to grow and frankly naruto nre healing power made sakura look irrelevant for alot of people.



#990931 The Great Naruto Discussion Thread

Posted by BlueStarSaber on 09 February 2024 - 12:45 PM in Naruto General

So no deaths in the war, including might guy?



#990916 The Great Naruto Discussion Thread

Posted by BlueStarSaber on 05 February 2024 - 01:14 PM in Naruto General

Here is a naruto topic for the thread, if you could kill off one member of the k11 who would it be? Also let's not do it for shipping reasons as that's why we hate neji's death.



#990936 The Great Naruto Discussion Thread

Posted by BlueStarSaber on 12 February 2024 - 08:13 AM in Naruto General

Some of those trials could invole death to help them grow, like I said hiashi for neji and hinata or guy for Lee.