dis it, yoshi?

Episodes:
S01 EP01 - "Tourist Trapped"
Dipper and Mabel Pines arrive in the remote town of Gravity Falls, Oregon to live with their Great Uncle Stan over the summer at his tourist trap, the Mystery Shack. Meanwhile, Dipper begins to discover the town's paranormal side when he discovers a mysterious book detailing strange occurrences that have happened in Gravity Falls, and when he suspects that Mabel's new boyfriend might be a zombie.

S01 EP02 - "The Legend of the Gobblewonker"
Dipper, Mabel, and Soos go on an expedition to a lake to find a legendary sea monster known as the Gobblewonker. Meanwhile, Grunkle Stan tries desperately to find replacement "fishing buddies".

S01 EP03 - "Headhunters"
Grunkle Stan learns his wax sculpture of Abraham Lincoln has melted, and Mabel makes a wax sculpture of Grunkle Stan to replace it. Next day, they discover someone has stolen the new sculpture's head.

S01 EP04 - "The Hand That Rocks the Mabel"
When Lil' Gideon, a child prodigy from the competing Tent of Telepathy, becomes attracted to Mabel, Dipper begins to have concerns about what he really is.

S01 EP05 - "The Inconveniencing"
Dipper develops a crush on Wendy and attempts to portray himself as a mature teenager so he can hang out with her and her friends. But when Dipper, Mabel, Wendy and Wendy's friends visit an abandoned convenience store, they discover it is haunted by elderly ghosts who hate teenagers.

S01 EP06 - "Dipper vs. Manliness"
Dipper goes on a quest to become a man with the help of a gang of Manotaurs; Mabel tries to teach Grunkle Stan how to be more of a ladies' man and capture the heart of the waitress at their local diner, Lazy Susan.

S01 EP07 - "Double Dipper"
Dipper uses a mysterious photocopier to create clones of himself so he can work the ticket stand for a party at the Mystery Shack and hang out with Wendy at the same time, but the Dipper clones turn on each other when they are faced with the opportunity to dance with her. Meanwhile, Mabel competes against Pacifica Northwest, the most popular girl in Gravity Falls, for the title of Party Queen.

S01 EP08 - "Irrational Treasure"
The kids try to expose Pacifica Northwest's fraudulent claim that her great-grandfather was the founder of Gravity Falls; Mabel tries to prove that she can be serious, but learns her silliness can help.

S01 EP09 - "The Time Traveler's Pig"
Dipper uses a time machine to undo ruining his attempt to impress Wendy at a fair, but accidentally changes history for the worse.

S01 EP10 - "Fight Fighters"
When Robbie challenges Dipper in a fight, Dipper makes a character from an arcade game come to life, Rumble Mcskirmish, but then he must stop him before he kills Robbie. Meanwhile, Mabel tries to cure Grunkle Stan of his fear of heights.

S01 EP11 - "Little Dipper"
Dipper discovers that he is only 1 millimeter shorter in height than Mabel, so he tries to find a way to increase his height. Meanwhile, Gideon makes several attempts to gain ownership of the Mystery Shack, each ending in failure, until he sees Dipper and Mabel fighting over a crystal that can make objects shrink and grow, and uses it to shrink them.

S01 EP12 - "Summerween"
Despite being told by Wendy that trick-or-treating is childish, Dipper reluctantly goes trick-or-treating with Mabel and her friends for Summerween after a monster known as the Summerween Trickster threatens to eat them if they don't collect 500 pieces of candy by the last watermelon lantern is blown , in the end of the night. Meanwhile, Grunkle Stan tries desperately to scare off a pair of kids that want candy but aren't scared of Grunkle Stan's tricks.

S01 EP13 - "Boss Mabel"

- https://twitter.com/_AlexHirsch/status/276383121883160576









*dedicated for my fwb, Koko. GIRL LETS SPAM GIFS DISCUSS THIS INTERESTING TELEVISION SHOW SENSIBLY!*

idt she 'proclaims' anything tbh. it's already known krisk is one of her waifus

should probably fix this (how embarrassing)

olawd i love what this implies

rip SWG ..still :c

but I neeed your opinion muff I neeeeed it
and now that I has it I'll put it to good use and buy da game. Think I can manage under 10 w/ some haggling hue


and omg jsrf?

MUFF
DO YOU LOVE LOVE ME?

omg thats private why'd you do that im shy

also theres no gif to contain how i feel so i'll just do this

mabel: you
lil' gideon: me



waifu pls watch gravity falls it was made for us

o stawp it.
muffins gave me a unicorn game! secrets of the magic rainbows or something :c i mean c:


quick muffins is ssx good? it looks good. last one i had was 1080 and i loved it. hurryhurry 1-10 scale hurry

the audio's kinda funky. but ty! its a better vrs. of that weird one i posted, the ~illegal~ one lolol

@panel: OMG SO AWK.
-P.J. is our savior, he seems so fun. dat KORRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
- i hope Seychelle and Janet are BFFs irl
- David is so studly i think i like this
- Bryke are so awk, the interview questions had me cringing.
- where was Tahno omg heresy



that would've been boring as the seven hells of winterfell, imo

Episode 1-10
Yakone: *evades the law*
Aang: GRRR
Katara: *is pregnant*
Zuko: *is Fire Lord*

Episode 11
Yakone: *is bored*
Sokka: Here is the deus ex machina EVIDENCE THAT YAKONE IS A BLOODBENDER! Sokka say, Guilty!
Yakone: lol idgaf, -bloodbends everybody-
Aang: U-UGH
Toph: U-UGH
Sokka: U-UGH
Katara: *still pregnant*
Zuko: *still Fire Lord*

Episode 12: Finale
Yakone: *attempts escape!*
Aang: u a bad man -avatar state-
Yakone: DARN YOU MEDDLING ADULTS!
Aang: yay i win again

Post Episode 12 Finale/Season 2 Teaser:
Azula: These are the villians? Embarrassing. Why in my day...

THE END.

AVATAR: THE LAST AIRBENDER (NOT REALLY LOL): OVERPOWERED ADULTS FIX PROBLEMS AKA ATLA: FAN SERVICE EDITION WILL RETURN WITH BOOK 2: ONE MORE AVATAR PROBLEM IN 2013!

zzzzzz
although I can see the novelty in seeing the old gaang interact. I wanna see whats up with the fire nation tbh. and Toph's everything. Didn't Suki get with Zuko? lolol idk is the promise canon?

nah I think that makes you an opportunist. Which isn't a disadvantageous road to take in life.


right? what a hot mess of a thread



@joke: oh hey it wasn't. and it didn't have a punchline, try again.


@my god: oh em gee my lord and savior, it's such an impossibly ~crazy world we live in when people get offended by such things like rape! When will these rape victims/women deal with it? Or when people just joke about it! It's not like their jokes don't perpetuate an already heavily deteriorating rape cuture that gets worse each day! C'mon guys, brush your emotional scars off and laugh at yourselves for once! Even though you're terrified by the very real threat of rape, each day, why don't you just see the humor in it! Fear is funny! We do it! (btw i have this friend who was a rape victim which validates my preaching about how rape jokes are harmless, dwi)

give me a break. If you're trying to make a joke about something there should be A) a point to it B) a punchline and C) a response

Tosh had one of the three above, can you guess which one?

All in all, I'm baffled by people being disappointed in people being offended by things like this. I don't want to live in a world where this kitten is allowed to run rampant (at least moreso than it already is) with no consequence in sight. Normalizing these types of things (e.g., rape; racism) gives way to more of it - it's not hard to understand.


@heckling: to heckle you have to have a predetermined mindset to interrupt the comedian to benefit yourself in terms of self-centered egocentrism. In some cases hecklers interrupt comedians because they're bored and/or drunk, in other cases they don't like the comedian himself/herself - this woman spoke up to call BS in his humor. Despite Tosh having a penchant for shock humor (wtf is this even, it's 2012) and her not being familiar with his shtick, she wasn't in the complete wrong for calling out his joke. It wasn't funny and she let him know, constructive criticism? Sure, but wrong place, wrong time. A wake-up call? Maybe. A waste of time? Definitely because Tosh seems the type to disregard those who aren't agreeable to his sense of humor (i.e., type of thinking) and in turn proves it, but that's just me.

As tricksie stated before, this all could have been avoided if Tosh handled it better. If he wasn't so, idk a word you provided, ~butthurt about an audience member not loving everything he was spewing, he could have handled her interruption better. But he didn't and that's the problem here. A huge glaring problem because he didn't so much as throw a joke at her in her expense as per usual of a comedian during a performance, but instead threatened her with a sexual violent situation that is very realistic and viable just to get her to leave him alone (or in otherwords, pure freedom to hold an audience captive with more of his golden witticisms).

It's not a joke, it's a full-out almost sociopathic threat. The threat therein being born from his indignation at someone considering him to be not as funny as he, personally, thinks he is. In fact, if he was so much in the right, why did he react the way he did? If what she said was so baseless, why did he handle it so badly?

Seriously if you're so sure of it being otherwise, tell me about the joke. Explain it to me because I don't get it.

Girl: "Actually rape jokes are nevery funny!"
Tosh: "Wouldn’t it be funny if [you] got raped by like, 5 guys right now? Like right now? What if a bunch of guys just raped [you]?"

How would it be funny, Pacheco?







Who cares if she was a heckler? That's not the reason why there's so much outrage over what prompted Tosh to respond, it's the fact of what he said in response and how unwarranted it was.

It's not like she completely shut down his performance. She didn't rip the mic from his hand, throw it out of reaching distance and continue to ridicule his sense of humor. She interrupted once, with a valid statement (this doesn't absolve her from her disruption ofc) - that's it.

Her doing only that doesn't justify him to say the thing he said. You read what she wrote (or not w/e), she said she was terrified, shaken, completely uncomfortable by what he said and the fact that the audience supported it with vitriolic laughter. Sure they wouldn't wish rape on her, but they didn't see the problem in it possibly happening. The audience and Tosh equated this "joke" to something trivial enough to be laughed at, for their benefit - it reminds me of mob mentality.

also if we're posting links, here's a good way to deal with a heckler (warning: language and sex anecdote):




olawd i cant

The audience cheered because they were applauding him pointing out the fact that the prevalent homophobia in male individuals, and society in general, being raped trivializes the very serious fact that it happens and it's damaging - no matter your gender. You shouldn't find it offensive, you should be applauding with them - he's ridiculing ignorant standards of homophobia negatively perpetuating rape culture - BOTH sides of it.

It's not mainly about rape, it's about the reaction to rape by ignorant men and women.

Anyway you're turning this into a men vs. women thing, so I'll respond in kind:
The fact of the matter is that women being raped is stagnant underneath all types of bigoted standards that are almost inescapable in society, whereas men being raped is not. Men being raped isn't talked about so much because it doesn't happen to this level. It happens, don't miscontrue what I'm saying, but it's not surrounded by horrible societal standards (e.g., what she wearing?; she probably deserved it; why'd she go out so late at night?; why didn't she take a cab instead of the subway?; etc.) that, ultimately, 1) hurt the victim 2) keep it from lessening in occurance and 3) perpetuate a mindset that humans would rather ridicule to avoid the actuality of it happening.

Regardless you can find it offensive, but you can't be indignant when women do as well; you as a male don't experience the type of high levels/endless amounts of victim-blaming standards society demands first and foremost from female victims of rape. If you haven't second-guessed your outfit while traveling at night, alone, frankly, you have no room to talk imo.

On the otherhand, you have all the right in the world to feel offended if you are part of the LGBT community or are a strong supporter of said community. That's the issue here, men being raped falls under it.



Holy christ, they're not cheering because the victims were men are you serious?

If they weren't cheering for the reasons stated above, they're cheering because men are the butt (no pun intended) of the jokes for once. And if even not that, it's the fact that two guys kittening is hot to women (I'm not speaking for all women ofc, it's a stereotype that's prevalent in culture i.e., yaoi fangirls). They were being immature animals by cheering because the stigma of rape is still existant in sex, in terms of how society considers it. If its the most latter reason, they were in the wrong because rape isn't sex - no matter those involved.

So yeah, go ahead be offended, but you should concentrate on society stamping you with a homophobic badge just because you're male, and not because men are being joked about in rape situations as well. And while you're at it, find these so called ONLY women audience members and ask them if they were infact, cheering because they find two men in an act that is wrongfully reminiscent of sex arousing. If they were, judge them and go on your way.

Like we have, with the audience members of Mr. Tosh.

When you're done with that, come back to the point of the joke (i.e., homophobia in rape culture):
Chappelle even brought this point up later on, "it's not like when you women get raped" - it's because when women are raped, the seriousness of the situation isn't mitigated under ignorant standards of machismo. i.e., "OH BRO YOU WERE RAPED BY A DUDE? IT WOULD'VE BEEN OKAY IF IT WERE A CHICK YOU KNOW? SINCE IT'S NOT GAY."

tl;dr Chappelle is recognizing homophobia as the bigger, more ignorant issue that overshadows how serious rape is for men. Then thereafter juxtapositioning it with how serious rape is for women - society is victimizing male rape victims because they should "deal with it" because they're men, and not treat the situation for what it is, like women.


@can you imagine: Sure because misogyny is still here, everywhere. It's not hard to imagine - much less dream about it, it happens every day. Would be of waste of sleep to dream about such kitten that happens for every women alive no matter how much it's downplayed in our media, society, etc.

Oh hey it just happened, with Tosh. And hey we're angry about it because they're totally different unrelated things, so I don't get the point of what you're saying.


---
jesus this thread.

here's someone who handled the topic of rape way better (warning: language):


Point: Rape is placed on a scale of almost embarrassing ignorance equating to the mentality that of an infant (i.e., men rape because they just want to stick it in something, consequences be damned)
Joke: You'll have to go be an inhumane uncontrollable animal some other night, there's nothing for you to steal here (i.e., too bad, it's detachable. Sorry you stupid baby)
Response: Laughter, deservingly so. (i.e., it's funny because rapists are animals and should be treated as such)

-2010
-get quoted
-two years later
jesuschristhowhorrifying.exe

thanks for the anatomy refs, anyway. i haven't really practiced all that much, but i think i've improved with ~age~

speaking of, i've a folder that i've been adding to with more anatomical self-help pics over the years. if anyone wants em, i'll be more than happy to share!



it's the boobs, chou-chou. always the boobs. A-cup or bust!

omg D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-DIIIILF!

dem water tribe genes..


also hngn i'm late and errybody's already probably seen this but might as well:


basically what fliss posted irl


lol @ the kingdom hearts enemies tho

ava - FINISH ME/10
sig - FATALITY/10


FOR WAIFU AND MEELO AND AVATAR STATE (ew aang) AND WAIFU AAAH

no bias at all tho

1) how'd u do that with hearts omg black magic
2) aw kitten borra? i see them as BFFs, maybe like korrasami since
3) omg IROHXASAMI

but wait, mr. basco's voice doesn't fit Iroh II's face/personality/everything you lose HAAA HAAA HAAA /aku




LOL OMG U WANT ME TO. dats guud stuff

i mean, IKR at least everyone's attractive makes it easier to ship all the ships dohoho

i mean, IKR WHY


gorl i know you're not feeling any remorse for that (i don't blame you), but if you are HEY MORE LOVE FOR EVERYBODY.

we don't really have much to discuss, so why not just spam favorite pictures? it'll help my korra folder since i'm lazy, tbh


NOOOOOO

wait mako's pretty i die too /dies for waifu

6/10 juat
9/10 paper cuts but who cares get bank, you win


omgplsbegentle

and like clockwork...
you were supposed to KEEP reading and base your reply on my entire post and not on a knee-jerk reaction to five or six words put together. The context in my post should provide more understanding than one sentence alone.

See my previous post, clarifying:
Then, I didn't think I was disrespectful.
Now, I do think I was disrespectful.

I can't make it clearer than that. Different factors have allowed me the necessary insight in acknowledging the fact that yes, I was disrespectful. Then, as a child, I was merely using a tool that I knew would get me my goal (i.e., probably that promised game with dad, which I have stated for the umpteenth time) - that was the context of my post, which was ignored or disregarded.

My dad was the adult, and despite how emotionally reactive the TOOL I used was, he should have known that a nine-year old (who showed no signs of sociopathic behavior prior to) was incapable of outright malice. And then acted like a PARENT should, instead of going straight for physical punishment. You, on the otherhand, can defend him as much as you want, but I believe that if a man smacks a little girl a fourth his size just to prove a point, then he doesn't deserve an ounce of respect for it.

Clarification of my clarification:
For slapping me, no he didn't. For raising me, yes he did.
For using a bad word as a tool, no I wasn't. For not restraining myself and using some other method my dad wouldn't have reacted so drastically to, yes I was.

My father and I were both lazy in that moment, and we both suffered for it. I just didn't think people would attack a 9-year old's actions, defend so vehemently a father's choice to resort to violence as a means to end all, all the while projecting their indignation onto her now grown-up self. jfc.



Don't take what I said as what I genuinely believe in.

I was being sarcastic and disdainful, in reply to your attacks, to elicit the most emotional response. That's kind of the point of making such baseless brusque accusations. See? Comprehend the context. My intention was to make you guys mad and make myself feel better, not make assumptions based on what I truly believe in (for examples see: this thread) - the opposite would further complicate and be counter-productive to what my point (and argument) is in the future.

@please please please:
don't patronize me; one's enough. And really, how else was I supposed to react? I didn't have much to go on.

You're saying all these level-headed and neutral things now but in your initial post you seemed pretty adamant to defend my dad, despite what he did. I based my reply on the overbearing tone of your post, and matched it - not on what I'm seeing here.

I was merely playing your game, following your rules - don't take what I did during the game and apply it here, off the court. It undermines my stance and helps yours by depicting me as some neanderthal incapable of debate.



No, that's not what "we" think - that's a negative blanket statement which would invalidate the rest of our argument (which would help you indefinitely, thus blanket statement).

The point we're (or at least I, but I hypothesize that my stance is closer to others on this "side") trying to get across is that such physical discipline ISN'T NEEDED. You brought up an conclusionary statement yourself (i.e., "if you're strict enough, no beating is required"), and then exemplified it with "he turned out to be a well behaved boy."

If results like that are, in fact, proven through experimentation sans beating, wouldn't the safer course be to not beat your kid? If it's possible to have a well-functioning adult bred from a type of discipline that lacks any sort of spanking, wouldn't it be better to find out how and change your style of parenting accordingly? What have you got to lose if you do decide to raise your kid without hitting them?

I'll be blunt: I think that if a grown adult can't discipline their own child without laying their hands on them, knowingly disregarding that other valid and effective means exist, that makes them a bad parent. If they resort to corporal punishment first (and without any justification) that makes them a kitten parent. If they beat their kid without anything else, or next to no other methods of discipline, it makes them one of the kittentiest parent.

Regardless of physical discipline being ONE of the KNOWN ways to "reprimand" your child, it shouldn't be defended to this degree, nor used as a means to end bad behavior. We used to have worse types of punishments, but do we still use them? No, because ethics has strengthened over time, humanity has shifted it's focus and, as a result, has antagonized these types of methods. In fact, I strongly believe it should be added to the "this is too drastic, too much of an archaic type of discipline, let's discard it and find another safer route" pile.

Raising human life has a sort of scary permanence that is almost irreversible. That said, I don't think we should take a chance on something so serious, despite the level of difficulty the alternative promises for parents.

@video:
again, despite it being your opinion, you have to take into account that we don't know enough of these kids to make solid presumptions like that. You can't disregard the possibility that these kids might be, in fact, getting abused at home, and are acting accordingly with that mindset (i.e., I was disciplined like this, I think this lady needs to taught something [probably she's sub-human perhaps], I'll hurt her to teach her). OR they might even lack any parent altogether, and instead be dealing with desertion.

We don't know enough, and thus, should not utilize it as a means to strengthen our argument. Only until more of these kids' background is presented, can we apply them as circumstantial evidence in our debate.

However, to avoid another trivial argument, I'll clarify that I'm not saying you shouldn't form an opinion on lack of evidence. It's up to you, if you want, and my stating that one should practice restraint and caution in doing otherwise is in no way an implication that I'm attacking you. /p.s.



Again, it's called s a t i r e.

He's a comedian, not a professor in child rearing or human development. If he wanted his jokes and anecdotes be taken seriously, he would be in a classroom, not on a stage. And I'm sure he'd hope that his performance wouldn't be included as evidence in a "why beating your kids is right" argument - that's why news reporters don't interview comedians, that's why we don't see Russell Peters Stand-Up specials on psychology syllabi, and that's why we shouldn't use comedy to help put across our points.

@lazy way:
No discipline =/= non-physical discipline.

Parents sending their kids to their room is lazy, I agree, but that's an entirely different type of parenting and shouldn't be included in this debate unless stated otherwise (i.e., total lack of discipline is probably the worst type of parenting, however this type of parenting does not equal whatsoever physical discipline)

@asian parents:
that's a stereotypical generalization which shouldn't be taken seriously. Not to mention racist.

In fact, I'm asian and I know for a fact I won't be beating my kids. Does that make me an outlier or the start of a change in the statistical group?




whatever. Next time, you should read the entire post and use the context in relation with how you reply instead of knee-jerking, attacking, and thus hurting someone with baseless opinions depicted as facts. And if you're not sure what I mean and/or have some doubts about it then ask me to clarify prior to said knee-jerk response.

What if there was a 9 year old behind this screen who had just finished confiding online about her experience? Would you have changed your tune? Legit question.



I completely agree. I've stated above, but I'll say it again: If a parent has to resort to violence to prove a point, that greatly hinders their validation as a parent. (Hell, even as an adult who doesn't even have kids - abusive spouse for instance.) I don't care what the kid does, it's up to the parent to be the ADULT and know that they're dealing with a child (who doesn't even UNDERSTAND right from wrong) and not a self-actualized individual: gauge the child's behavior and adjust your punishment - realistically and fairly - prior to dealing it out. Let the punishment fit the crime, etc.

And it's no problem (well yeah lasting problems, but you know what I mean haha). I know he was in the wrong, and have shaped my plans in parenting accordingly. I guess I should thank him for making my childhood a cautionary tale for Mommy Krisk.

Thanks, though! I really appreciate the help. Seriously. It's kind of tough to bare it all out there, know that I've negatively developed from my past and then turn around and get attacked for it. It blind-sided me, if anything.



Excellent advice. Bullies thrive on attention and when the victim gives them what they want, it only exacerbates the situation to benefit the attacker. Unfortunately, despite Ms. Klein not engaging them, I'm suspecting that the vitriol at the core of the group mentality permeated too effectively, causing the situation to grow too chaotic too quickly (i.e., fuel and fire) until it was too late.

Speaking of positive feedback, I'm reminded of a stupid (as in the bully, who went about his bullying in a totally counter-productive way) moment when I was attacked for my race. Something about my grades juxtaposed with my Asian parents (herp derp asian parent say no A minus! herp). Anyway I remember this older kid, probably 8th or 9th grade, calls me out for it and, despite his glee in his statement, I was totally confused and didn't even respond how he wanted.

I was so young and unfamiliar with ignorant societal standards, I had no idea what race had to do with academics, and was like "wut". It's hilarious because the bully was completely shut-down with my lack of feedback. I was confused, not insulted (enough to be pushed to fight back) and he didn't even have the ground to say more because I was incapable of understanding the intention behind his words. I'm sitting here trying to figure out why he even attacked a child. Despite him displaying his power and sadistically enjoying the freedom he possessed, I don't understand how he expected to gain any feedback from a kid who doesn't understand what racism is.


@kids on the bus taking a stand:
While I know you're not arguing the circumstances, I feel like I should throw it out there regardless for a passers-by reader.

I'm sure it was tough, almost impossible, for the good kids on the bus. Out-group cohesiveness and mob mentality is a tough thing to fight against, and the quiet kids probably couldn't gather enough strength to do so. I don't really blame them, since in-group bias is really a daunting thing to oppose, especially at that age. I take reassurance in the thought that perhaps the good kids on the bus were hoping something would stop their a**hole peer's behavior. A meteor, Superman (screw that, where's Batman), or something.


@kid taping:
Unfortunately, the kid had made the video to show to his peers as proof that him and his friends were actually antagonizing the bus monitor, iirc. I have a feeling this attack was preemptive, and the video camera was there as means to spread word of their "accomplishment."

I seem to remember reading that the video was ripped from facebook and put on youtube which allowed it to grow to this phenomenal level. I'm not positive on this though and will make sure, just in case.

update:
by a few first-hand accounts, it seems that /b/ was the one that ripped the video from one of those idiot's facebook (after it was taken down voluntarily, I believe, to cover their asses) and reposted it somewhere else (probably /b/ itself, and someone might have put it on youtube indefinitely thereafter)

damnit /b/ s-stop making me l-like you



No one said it was. I'm assuming that what I said is prompting you to add this to your post (since I haven't seen anyone else mention anything related to physical discipline in the tone of it being "a form of hillbilly release"). I won't defend myself because what I said doesn't need a defense - I was being facetious, which makes what I said (in regards to the intention) not applicable to this present discussion i.e., an intentional red herring.

If what prompted that statement wasn't in relation to what I said, then ignore that above.

And I disgree. A positive influence shouldn't have to rely on such drastic measures to demonstrate their reasoning. In my opinion, it's quite nonsensical to result to violence as a means to teach. That's me though, and my personal experience with it.



Physical punishment is preferable to acknowledging things like shame and embarrassment because it does two things:
1) It's a definite, if not permanent, means of avoidance of accountability.
2) It causes trauma which will more often than not benefit the parent moreso than the child.

The very confusing feeling of pain from physical trauma that a child receives fully distracts from the lesson that needs to be learned, which in turn is easier to understand (i.e., pain = bad = do not do) and more easier for a parent to instill within a child. Beatings are used as a quick-fix, whereas the shame and embarrassment a kid feels is the first step to acknowledging the why of what they did, and thereafter the lesson. As aforementioned, physical discipline benefits the parent instead of the child: the responsibility to find a means to teach a child a lesson without trauma is decidely more difficult, which demands from the parent a decidely more amount of coinciding effort.

If the parent does decide to go the safer, albeit harder, route they will have to break away from the "adult world" that the child sees but doesn't understand, and put themselves on a level of a child's mentality. That isn't easy. But if a parent can manage this, the lesson will be more easily understood - the parent has walked the kid through the problem on a pace that is fully benefitial to the child (which, as I stated before, is the most important thing).

If not, the parent can completely bypass the real lesson by applying trauma. I can't say this enough, if a child is beat they are being taught that they were bad, and not why they were bad. If you hit a child, they associate the action with pain and fear which makes them incapable of repeating it. If you do not hit a child and instead explain and/or demonstrate just how their action was bad before giving a form of discipline that reaffirms the lesson, they will be able to utilize their own deductive skills to decide whether or not what they did was warrantably bad (which all comes down to just how effective the parent was in their explanation/reasoning/etc.) They may do it again, if the parent failed to teach it effectively, but the child will have a harder time justifying their action because the incentive is struggling against the reasoning they were previously exposed to, thus weakening.

It's all a matter of association vs. causality (i.e., fear vs. empathy) and how good a parent is at their job.

and I disagree: those "scars" a child receives aren't negatively permanent, as the word "scars" implies. I see it more positively, as aforementioned. The fact that you would rather avoid feeling the overbearing guilt after seeing shame on your mother's face or the embarrassment in front of your judgmental peers and instead take the physical trauma, tells me that the quick-fix of a beating is much easier to accept and thus preferable as a means of avoidance - instead of facing what's right there in front of you. Emotional discipline is much more lasting and positively reinforcing than physical trauma because it lacks the negative objectivity that physical pain carries.

The saying "the truth hurts" cannot be more applicable here: physical trauma is just another way a child (and adult for that matter) can avoid what they truly need to come to terms with and/or misunderstand the why behind their action.


Two things semi-related:
1) My replies are in relation to your overall post, not this statement:
I'm assuming it's a typo? Because the context that precedes this statement is decidely supportive of "physical conditioning" against "emotional" moments (e.g., mom's shame; embarrasment in public). If not, it's kind of a contradictory statement to what you said before it, which I doubt you did intentionally. Clarification please?

2) I feel like I should say: don't take what I'm saying as an attack.
I understand that the temptation to avoid the harder "truth" for something easier is very hard to resist. I'm not immune to such a choice - however, I'm just analyzing here and what it means to choose one over the other; I'm not judging you for your preference, whatsoever.

anyway this thread is still dealing with PTSD, so better safe than sorry?


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an afterthought unrelated to anyone's post:
Ms. Klein was the bus monitor right? What about the bus driver? No matter their circumstance, they should have been aware of the concentrated attention - it's kind of hard to avoid seeing all the kids looking in one direction in the bus driver's full rear-view mirror. And I don't doubt that Ms. Klein might have looked to the front of the bus for help.

Why didn't he/she do the right thing and help her? Stop the friggin bus and chew the kids out? Or stop it somewhere safe and call the inept parents to pick up their turds? See if Ms. Klein was alright? Anything?

It's not always kids that are the problem.

edit: AW kitten NEW PAGE, I DEDICATE IT TO SHIPPING


NO U. <3

and I ... ER SURE. HAHAHA (there might be another coming with us, DON'T BE MAD I LOVE YOU?)




wat this post was different before muffins y u shy

anyway @vid:
omg dealwithit mako (i definitely would lbr)

prior to edit, my post was gonna be (dealwithit muffins):
@korra pic:
i'll admit korra x fighting is my one and only otp before korrasami, but still can't i just have both together bryke? maybe asami can teach korra cqc?

@awk-amon:
mr. fabulous blum did a couple irl at a conference, in request of Amon's Jokes meme lovers:


kind of second-hand embarrassment but that's the point, sry2say mr. blum. he's still amazing for doing it, my VA husbando hngh

wtf @ that unicorn girl tho..

Mm, yeah I do know. Then, too, I knew that bad words were bad (which, if the aforementioned is true, by default then you shouldn't say them against your parents of all people), but I didn't know why they were bad. So the incentive to refrain was very weak, I couldn't find it in myself to stop.

And I'm not justifying myself, just trying to understand why I said it (semi OT about my initial post: I feel I should clarify [i.e., read words > ignore context > attack] before I get jumped on again: As a kid, I didn't think I was being disrespectful because my father's behavior didn't warrant it at that time and/or my intention didn't involve outright malice through the word itself, now he's proven that he deserves/ed that respect and/or I'm actualized enough to deduce that despite my intention, I should have restrained myself, I digress) - which I more or less have boiled it down to premature rebellion born from lack of and/or weak understanding in what my parents were trying to instill in me, that of which influenced my lack of restraint.

For instance, this was around the time when religion was being introduced (read: attempted to be forced) to me (read: into my head). They didn't do such a great job with that area. I recall them dropping my sister and I off at this strange small family-run religious "school" and then picking us up at the end of the day. Instead of asking what I thought about the lessons, they asked if I learned anything. And to avoid a debate (I would inquire about the faulty stuff I was unsure of but would be either waved away or treated like an idiot i.e., "we'll just make sure you stay there longer next time"), I would just reply in the affirmative.

I guess that's where it started. The lack of answers to my questions (e.g., "But how come these higher powers etc.") had me unsatisfied with how they treated me, so I didn't see much point in following the rest of what they preached to the letter, or with as much seriousness as others do. I passive-aggresively demanded a better teaching style, but never got it, so saw no point in practicing the preachings (aka the balance of parent vs. child was off by a huge margin, and both sides suffered)

Other factors that could have played a hand? The gender role I was mandated to fill. My family has a strict, "girls should be in the kitchen > women should find husbands" and "boys should be playing > men should make the money" dictation, which I found to be confusing (even nonsensical), but I couldn't do much when the people around me all felt that that kind of doctrine was the right, and only, one. My mom (probably because of a self-fulfilling prophecy i.e., she was abused by her first husband, so I can't blame her), my girl cousins (they had tons of pressure on them for being the oldest ones), and my father and uncles (proper little girls make proper big girls). The only people I can think of who didn't really enforce this were my boy cousins, ironically enough. They didn't really understand the sexism prevalent in our family's (and in-group society's) foundation, and thus treated me like an equal (e.g., "we know you don't like sailor moon that much, how about we watch some dragonball instead?"; "those Ready Bake ovens are stupid and boring, lets play GoldenEye."; etc).

Anyway, I, like my guy cousins, didn't understand wtf was up with the gender role stuff, so they helped me be who I wanted to be behind the scenes. I myself didn't see the justification in not playing video games and instead cleaning the house, in not playing with legos and instead with dolls, in not wearing pants and instead wearing dresses - all just because I had girl parts. Still don't of course, but that's pretty obvious lol.

Summarily, as Greed mentioned about "circumstances," I had many that might have been the reason why my tongue was so sharp in that moment: I didn't think the reasoning behind the weird teachings I was getting were a constant in plausibility, so I figured "saying bad words is bad justcuz" fell underneath that mindset as well. And like you mentioned, kira, "kids aren't idiots" - I wasn't and I was expected to be treated in kind - but unfortunately, my parent's lack of insight into this, and the aforementioned, mindset is what they struggled with. And I reacted, in turn.

also I admit it's not easy, but like I've stated, I don't think you should even have kids unless you're ready to shape them accordingly (despite how much effort you put into it, raising human life shouldn't be placed on a scale of "good enough".)


completely fair, shriner. A time and a place, I agree.

Sorry if it counts for anything. It's kind of a hard habit to break.
When I'm with peers, I kind of let them fly as much as I can, so as long I can get away with. Anyway gotcha! Lay off 'em, gotcha gotcha.

hell if that's your reason, let it be. I know you're worthy enough as a husbando to accept that confession, regardless of the reason that prompts a confession doncha know?

I mean

no that's not weird I accept we'll have korrasami decorum and hot korrasami cosplayers with the Asamis being all flirty and Korra being nervous because HNNGHMYFETISH

also best asami cosplay i've ever seen and probably ever will






it was voted as the Most Popular Pairing in a recent rather large fanbase poll, ergo it's a gift from Goddesses Kyoshi and Yangchen, ergo bryke is dum, ergo KORRASAMI PARTY

like so


aw yiss

I HAVE NO IDEA. i feel like i missed one of the most important memos of my life. where the hell are they casting extras!? LEGIT QUESTION

and oh girl ...
omg ...
remember when he...

he

Matt, he ... Dr. Bomer... his pelvis... and grinding ... she's laying there. I cant

I wanna post the gif but it's so raunchy, I can't risk it. but if you're talking about the same part I am, I FEEL YOUR PAIN. (ﾉಥ益ಥ）ﾉ ┻━┻


yeah, I mean while I've been pushing the "AW YISS GRIND ON ME" portion of this movie, LID's comment above is looking to be a pretty good representation of how the general public is taking the movie. I mean 80-75% on RT? Ebert gave it 3.5/4 I think too. Jeez, wut all i wanted was to see man pelvis gyrating and abs move like the waves in the ocean, idc/no1curr bout the plot tbh

anyway I needa see it too, surprisingly bahhaha. If you do go see it yesterday, try to drop by and share your ... observations too. Especially of Tatum's PONY DANCE HGGGH I'VE HEARD THINGS ABOUT IT. GOOD THINGS

@analysis
why thank you, I love everything too

Spin, race, reverse, wear out the acceleration, check the suspension, test the brakes, work the horsepower, drift, etc. etc.


LOL I TINEYE'D THAT SUCKER LIKE A MILLION TIMES BEFORE POSTING IT. WHILE CRYING.

it's like 126x121 right now and then i got 73x68 after that, i was disgusted and bothered! This planet might as well go to waste if we can't find perfect pairings depicted in perfect pictures. Greed!!! don't give up!!!

i tried applying my google-fu for the greater good. Greed! "korrasami in bed" is giving me really weird results! aangxmai? animals???? NOOO





this basically




KORRA DUMP CANT STOP MEEEE

GREED!!! IT'S SO PERFECT MY TEARS WILL DROWN OUT THE SUN IT'S NOT FAIR WE'RE NOT LIVING IN MORE NON-CONSERVATIVE TIMES

at first I wanted them to just be friends you know? but then they started talking, and hanging out, and Korra crashed Asami's car and Asami's all "honey next time, let me drive" and Korra's all "Asami, w-wut" and Asami's all, "shh baby i know" and safdflkdfjaskd

but the real mission for us is this:


WE MUST FIND THIS IN FULL-SIZE



edit: i found my other korrasami dump hold onto your butts

Bryke does have an strong affinity to creating god-tier female heroes. no idea how they manage it. weird fascinations? sokka's explanation for bloodbending? magic? WHO KNOWS

LOL OH YOU GUYS

1) No kitten, Sherlocks. Of course I was being disrespectful, of course I was supposed to be disciplined. If you knew how to comprehend these words, you'd probably be able to surmise that I meant he shouldn't have HIT me to teach me a lesson. He should have done something else. Taken me home? Time-out? Talk-down? Given an explanation as to "why" we don't say bad words to people?

Nope, I got smacked. And what came out of it? I was TERRIFIED of him. That's the lesson I learned, and it stuck with me. I didn't learn why bad words were bad, or that I shouldn't say them to elders, I learned that if I said them AT ALL I would get the kitten smacked out of me. (kind of a sh*tty lesson to teach if you as the parent get to say bad words when you're preaching that bad words shouldn't be said whatsoever). Good lesson? Nah. Taught lesson? Yeah.

Btw, don't make assumptions on one case like you guys kittening know me. My dad is a great guy and he's sacrificed a lot. I know this and I respect him for it. Just because I'm not worshipping his every parental decision, doesn't mean I think he's unworthy of respect. Take several seats.


2) This whole thread is a debate as to whether or not children should be given corporal punishment as a sole teaching tool. It's subjective, and I presented my case. If you had again comprehended my post, you'd see that I offered my personal experience to better explain my position on not hitting kids to prove a point. In your rather bias replies, I guess you guys by default hit kids. Good game.


3) Wow, I didn't know respect was inherent. Guess I missed that memo.


4) Didn't expect to get attacked for being attacked, though. Mods should I delete that portion of my post? Y/N?



Don't put words in my mouth. I didn't say I wasn't disrespectful.

They did actually, one way or another. But hey I guess you think that getting a lesson beaten into you is the only way to go no?



good job in proving where your baseless ad hominems came from then.



1) I was spoiled? How do you know this? And I didn't think I deserved the attention - I thought I was owed it.
I thought that my dad shouldn't have convinced me to go under the guise that he was going to play tennis with me and then not play tennis with me. Oh kitten you're right! I'm so spoiled for expecting what was promised to me! Damn, to trust in what people promise you, what a childish thing of me to do! You should probably do the honors this time no? idk I feel like you're kind of itching to do so.

2) Again I'm not justifying my disrespect, lrn2read

3) Nice ad hominem there. Implying I write too much which makes those "paragraphs" essentially all verbose bias ramblings. Sneaky.



-be called names
-wow that's disrespectful
-don't reply with respect
-get reprimanded for not giving respect when none was given in the first place


btw
@he didn't discipline you enough: did you just threaten me? olawd



sooo jealous of this type of mom-daughter relationship. I hear about it from friends, but my mind automatically thinks "HOLY kitten HOW ARE YOU ALIVE??"

awesome relationship seriously! I can't even say curses around my parents because two things happen: 1) I mentally flinch, which I can't really control now, 2) They still shoot me glares. So now I only sneak it in, or say it around them and not at them. But it's still terrifying. My mom's more lenient, ironically enough in relation to your story. My dad has no tolerance for it, lol.



I can respect this viewpoint.

You mentioned if the parent "doesn't make them understand" what it means to cross that line? I can understand and even be more lenient to this type of behavior. Some parents dish out corporal punishment without presenting the reason behind it and/or until the kid gets why they're getting spanked, which I can't really accept. BUT if the parent explains why before a spanking? I'm more tolerant with that, since the lesson is affirmed with the spanking, instead of taught through it.

It's all a matter of balance, and you explained it perfectly.

A) Yes, Alex, I was a spoiled brat for wanting to play some tennis with my dad instead of watching him once again abuse booze behind my mom's back
B) Yes, Alex, I knew what the F-word meant at 9 years of age and used it to personally hurt my dad
C) Yes, Alex, I'm a sociopath ingrained with these traits which I suddenly understand the meaning of as an infant
D) All of the above
E)
F)