To me, yes this is all dissapointing, and well, yeah love subplot becomes a mess, it ends a mess.

 

Now I feel like purging the memory of this entire story, its literally all an asspull and just breaks the logic of it all.

 

Maybe in another life I'll give this series a chance, but in this life, I'm going to purge it all. I liked the series from chapters 1 to 698, but now its just, now I wish i hadn't continued to read the series.

 

I loved this ship guys, I was willing to see NH as canon, but SS as well, sorry but I cannot accept this. NS is always my canon and well whats there to say? This is karma? we were usually the ones getting blasted and I mean kishi had written what he did. But yeah, I am not even going to finish the series with this.

 

I loved this with all of you, but now, the series is dead to me, its over, finally free of this shipping war, going to erase everything from the web and what I did with this. Naruto and everything in it is just over for me. Now I will never remember this series.

 

Maybe in time I will find a replacement like fairytail or something, something that stuck to the stuff it needed, but this is just a case of, well, I'm never going to read this series again.

 

I will miss you all when my purge is complete, I just cannot fulfill the series at this point knowing all the news. To me, its over, the manga, the anime, the games, to have kishi having written all of this and just blatently ignore it, maybe if the series was ever rebooted and had a different outcome, I don't know, but theres just nothing left, nothing.

 

NS was a great and grand journey, but at the end we get this, mess, this thing with no excuse. Its hard to imagine a series that got so good had such a lazy ending. But yeah I'm erasing this series from my mind, its just not a good outcome, not a good resolution.

 

I wished that we would have been right just following a story as it should have, but kishi either got lazy or soldout. I cannot look at this series ever again when the whole development has been ignored and just sasuke gets asspulled to something he shouldnt have and NH just got a movie. Naruto never got resolution with Sakura, thats the worst of all, now this is nothing to me, I am sorry guys, but this series has become nothing to me.

 

So now I begin my purge and erase this series from my mind, erase the stain of the ending, erase what I liked following this series over the years.

 

I was never going to ship anything after this, but after seeing this result, I just cannot look at manga the same way again, so upon this news, I just sold my naruto games to gamestop and will erase my web broswer, this is just sad, I'll always remember you guys in heart, but now, Naruto is something I need to erase from my mind, thats how upsetting this is, not because of the ship, but even because of just how, pointless and out of order this ending is. Even as a writier, kishi messed up, I am not going to spend time about going on what could have been, now to me, its just a mess, just this ending made me loose my respect for this series, I mean sasuke now suddenly loving Sakura, well guys, guess this is farewell. It was a great journey, but theres nothing left to respect for this series. I loved the buildup but the ending was a WTF moment, a big one, sorry guys but hey, its been fun. I'll remember you all in heart. When my purge is complete, well, the joy of this ship will always remain in my heart, but I've dropped the series now, its nothing to me, never again will I lay eyes upon naruto, for I wanted to see a story full of its development become something it should have in the end, not just asspulled something else because of fandom preferences or not having the balls to fulfill and follow what you wrote. In an alternate reality, well, I wish we could have see the NS canon there, but all I can say this this left a bad taste in my mouth and its a pain to me to say I now want to never see this series again. Maybe I'll take up fairytail, now. But its been fun guys, farewell.

I can agree with a lot of this, personally to me, I didn't like Sasuke as a character or as he was an ass, but I liked his fighting style, thats the only thing I actually found enjoyable about him, sword with lightning imbuing ablities made him like the sith of the narutoverse. Otherwise the fire stuff and sussano was neat.

 

But as a character with more flip flopping than naruto hitting others with talk no jutsu, yeah sasuke was practically forced into situations, even development wise, Sakuras with narutos has been longer and deeper than Naruto going for Sasuke despite that being the main one we need to consider. but hey, Naruto got sasuke back for both his own reasons and the promise and well we know of narutos reasons so now the promise should be addressed and well, NS can happen with that other I couldnt confess before factor.

If you guys are really concerned than ask yourselves these 2 questions:

 

Which is the harder to believe?

 

Kishi making a movie filled with NHness and not making NH canon within 110 minutes, thereby NS being canon in the manga

 

or

 

Kishi not making NS canon in the manga which has been running for 15 years, having lots of gradual and spaced out development just to have Nh go canon within 110 minutes.

 

Aka do you believe Kishi would end the manga with NH despite not much in the manga especially in conflict with what was seen in with NS in the manga and that this would all be sidelined within a simple 110 minute movie?

 

I know it may seem hard to believe that Nh wouldnt occur in the movie despite from what we have seen so far, but its even harder to imagine NS not occuring because of what has come before in the manga.

 

The fact that it seems strange that Nh wouldnt occur in the movie is a strange statement indeed, but the amount of strangeness for the deal with the manga far outweighs this, the fact of what we saw in the manga with NS just not occuring in the end far outweighs the strange factor of the movie not having NH in it.

 

Its a matter of which of these 2 is the more extreme thing to envision not happening? 15 years of paced focus and development vs 110 minutes of some side story that never had time for in the manga?

 

And please you honestly mean to tell me you believe SS should occur? It has no excuse, even for a redeemed sasuke, there is no point in him loving Sakura. It seems silly to imagine stuff like the forehead compliment would come along with if Naruto confessed after saying he kept his promise, but seriously, is it that impossible? because we got Kushina having the same basic background in regards to Minato with how Sakura was to Naruto, hating the blond at first, calling them weak, not liking their physical feature yet the guy did, I don't even need to mention the 504 and 631 stuff, thats been said enough, but to have a foreshadow occur with a model setup in relation to 2 other characters, its like, a 3 tiered effect of just, well why wouldnt this be brought forth to the end?

 

Then there is one last thing I have speculated upon for this ending.

 

The ending, these final chapters, mainly 700, would have had to occur in such a way that, the manga is the only thing you would have had to read to understand everything, not the movie, its to say if this is an epilogue then well you would understand how the fate of everyone occurred without needing to see the movie, I mean even kishi said please see the manga ending before the movie. And to me, that just speaks well, you cannot expect SS to happen because Sasuke himself has been the issue the whole time, and again there is no point for him to suddenly love sakura or sponaentously be with her in the end, its like a love that just happened for no purposes besides her hoping. Along with NH, well if you see NH in the final chapter, technically you know what happens in the movie and it then becomes a point of the movie being just how NH occured and why NS didn't despite everything else and frankly, this one just makes plenty of more questions than answers, even from kishis choice as he wrote both the manga (with the NS stuff we got these past 2 years like 631 and 663) along with all the negative stuff on SS and nothing for NH besides well, the dream which was just the same as ever. Now ask yourself, this deal of NH in the end, it just comes from nowhere, does Hinata even have something to fulfill in the manga if the movie exists? NH certainly isn't going to be canon in the manga or make sense without the movie but its again, would kishi honestly make a manga end that just fits out of nowhere with you seeing NH in the end despite him still, even recently from 693, still loving and having the promise with Sakura? Take the movie out of this equation, you see manybe a NS deal in 699 then blam, NH in 700, doesn't make much sense in a flow now does it? This is why the movie would come in but again, it would also disrupt the end feeling flow to the manga, because these final 10 chapters have been Naruto and Sasuke but to a larger extent as well, team 7 as a whole, the team which does not include Hinata.

 

And some would say, but what about Sakura in 693, what the hell about that? Yeah the hell indeed, because Sasuke himself being the issue, you honestly think there is a reason for love to occur that didn't occur at all? Otherwise you should expect SS in the movie as well despite it not being well, anywhere. But what if NS is there aside from the promise? What if Naruto either confesses or reveals the chapter 3 stuff? You honestly don't think that this should qualify for a predictable consideration among for the facts naruto wasn't able to confess because of the promise (alongside never in the flow of this manga having turned towards hinata or away from Sakura) and add to the fact that something like chapter 3, even as unlikely as it sounds, wouldnt flow into the deal of the kushina likeness or be a shocker to Sakura to see that the sasuke she loved, was ironically naruto? Its not hard to imagine that 699 could have some setup for NS like a promise fulfilled or reveal and then 700 shows what it became in the future.

 

Look I know some stuff seems unlikely, but the given the whole predicament of what we have seen, the fact of the issues that arise when the movie comes into this mix with HInata, yes it may seem crazy to say NH couldnt occur if it seems like a movie flooded and implying that it will occur, but then it just throws more crazy to say, if kishi is intent on NH, well its not only a poor execution but its honestly, a shocker to think that NS would just have been the best developed and seen in the manga yet not occur and it would be even harder just to watch the movie to see how naruto turned in just 110 minutes. I mean no debating stuff but Sakura got her meaningful and purposeful development with Naruto, to just pocket her on Sasuke is just well, thats not fulfilling, again especially with what we have seen in regards to development and especially the kushina stuff even hinting an end, well thats the deal to say, if you foreshadowed this stuff 3 times, even put the mother of the hero in the likeness of the heroine and gave her a similar backstory to the father, why just basically cancel it?

 

I have faith that NS will get, if anything a resolution, but honestly, after looking over all the info and what the movie came with and what has occured in the past with the manga, to me, its harder to believe that NH would just "happen" in 110 minutes so easily rather than all the stuff NS had with the 15 years paced out growth over this manga.

 

Its either NS and everything goes forward or NH occurs and its well, just unfortunate that things had to be a sellout and well, I wouldnt be sad, I would just laugh at NH, because the movie itself would just be how shallow and hollow the pairing was, Hinata literally reduced to that pathetic type of disney idealism princess kitten that needs to die, I mean she gets kidnapped in the movie later on too, and fans want NH or Hinata herself to be like this? Thats not an epic ending, thats just sad, espcially on Hinatas part...

 

But yeah I have faith in NS development and the promise is still there. But the thing thats again to me is just looking at kishis choices in what is implied with the movie and what he already did with the manga. So now it remains, is NS in the manga and makes this movie not what many think it to be? Or did kishi just take the easy way out despite having so much development, focus, and even hinting on what NS could do?

 

To me, its the bigger question of which is more insane, and by all logic, the bigger insanity is him not making a fulfilled relationship of NaruSaku which got this stuff, a long time over the steady 15 years than to actually not have NH occur in this movie, rather its insane and already hard to believe why would naruto just turn to hinata so easily in 110 minutes? And well yeah that NS stuff, existed and was put down before and even along the time kishi made the last, so thats a good question in itself, why hint it and show nothing for it rather than just have Hinata around? I mean hell he could have had kagyua use Hinata for something if the byakugan was so important.

 

To me, its just a reasonable skeptical approach to the current stuff we have seen, but again, I have faith in the NS development as to what makes NS the most appropriate ending to this story.

 

Because what occurred in the past cannot be changed and well, NS was there all over the manga, not needing a movie to just say how things happened so suddenly. It still has the promise to fulfill in the end and there is a deal that well, there may be something there that goes our way and makes NS canon, because what we saw implying it and not helping NH, hell NH needs a movie for its implied canon, thats just saying how "important" it was to the overall story. And to most senses, this just seems, rediclous, I mean NS is the most focused and appropriate to fulfill this love subplot, within itself of the manga, so why would the movie just come and do this and make us believe Naruto suddenly goes into loving Hinata? come on guys, again what is harder to believe:

 

NS not occuring in the manga despite everything seen before and just sidelined in favor of NH within 110 minutes

 

or

 

NH not occuring in the movie

 

Because seriously, kishi wrote both of these, and to me, the deal of NS not occurring is the bigger thing in question, thats just more insane if you look at it and again, shouldn't the manga ending be something merited by the manga, without the need to see the movie? Wouldnt this end have to be something that the audience can understand with all the stuff before it? I'll leave you guys to decide but my choice is the former, its just harder to believe NS would not occur despite all the other stuff shown before, I mean what author would do that, what author would even accept this even knowingly writing both the manga and this side story? And thats where I will leave it, because NS not happening, depsite all the stuff we saw before, thats hard to believe. I believe NS will get a resolution, it should get the promise fulfilled, but for everything else, its either it all flows together or kishi just did something else and Nh occurs and well, thats just not that fulfilling, even with a movie.

Well now this will be my last post:

 

Until the end comes and not needing to focus on the movie (lets keep this on the manga)

 

This databook has been otherwise what we have said more or less the whole time:

 

-The promise is important and present, not ended in 470, though this solved itself with 693

 

-663 was Sakura to Naruto and her protecting his dream, possibly her moving towards Naruto, even with what the databook has, again they could have just put it as payback for him protecting her, but adding love, well thats just something to make me smile. Either way its given, Narutos dream is important to Sakura.

 

-Nothing much on NH save from Hinata like the manga has done

 

-Sasuke doesn't love Sakura and she didn't even appear in Sasuke's pages.

 

So yeah, NS has a resolution to occur, lets be patient and see what the ending really is, but this is nothing spoilerwise and its neat in itself how this databook was implemented. See you guys on thursday, this databook stuff got me smiling.

What or who is Sakura's favorite in this DB? 

It says Sasuke, but for Sakura it says about how she believes he could come out of darkness, not love, aka concerned for his wellbeing.

 

Hinata has naruto no suprise but its just more of well, NH always being on her.

 

But Naruto has ramen in his favorite so, NaruRamen is confirmed, so teuchi, the ramen guy wins.

 

This databook had a lot for NS, with the promise and the 663 stuff, it even had it mentioning Sakura was protecting narutos dream as payback for naruto having loved and protected her until now.

 

Don't fret over the until now stuff, that could be like saying how she protected him for once or how after all this time, until now something else could occur, don't fret over it. Nothing in this book has appeared for Sakura on Sasuke and well generally the NH stuff is all on Hinata.

 

The suprising thing is again just that deal of Sakura towards Naruto, they didn't have to throw love in there, just protection, that would have made sense, and naruto never showed any signs of turning away from sakura or towards hinata in the manga so, yeah its info that we kinda knew in line with the whole time.

 

Short version: the stuff we said about NS was basically more or less right when stuff like 663 first came out and with the promise, like in 469, it wasn't killed, NS didn't die, it was a deal that had been involving both of them for a long period even to the current point in the manga, not ended suddenly with 469 as other fans thought.

Guess its also great how the stuff we thought with NS came to be practically right on the spot so, so in the end, we are fine and we just now need to await the end. Seeing this NS stuff in the databook,

 

Now I am awaiting the end more than ever.

 

@Chatte no I am serious, either Kishi is followed your ideas or you can see into the future.

 

Its again just funny how your theories came so close, I mean just imagine if the story had been like something else such as Sakura got senju powers instead of Tsunades, that would have been more direct but the fact this is what occured in the databook its funny.

 

I mean doesn't it pay to mention sakura has earth (being heaven) in another way while healing kinda flows in line with water (kinda like katara from the last airbender, many fantasy series use some water powered person having healing as well). This is just funny and amusing.

Well I mean, last night with the speculative spoilers from evil, that stuff was still, pleasing to see.

 

But this is much better to me because you know, its offical, and to see Sakura even stated to have Narutos dream for loving and protecting her, the promise as something from both of them, and Sakura having mainly Sasukes wellbeing in mind, with nothing on Sakura for Sasuke, and well hinata is just as we all know.

 

I need to say, I am pleased, I am for all purposes just content with this knowledge, this is the stuff that makes me believe NS in the first place.

 

I mean hell, you see Chatte happy, even her whole old prediction of Sakura and some senju power ironically has gotten her labeled with water and earth powers. Talk about again something she made that came very close, its almost again, scary to the point maybe kishi just made the story off her theories so maybe chatte is the real indirect author?

 

But yeah, NS stated like this in the databook, mainly with stuff we knew and understand, thats just something for all purposes I want to see resolved now and its well, releiving in one case and satisfactory to keep me content until the finale, so no more spoiler hunting for me. I mean if this is technically all around chapter 689 to 691, thats basically what we knew and nothing spoilerwise, more like offical and expanded context, but yeah, naruto always loving sakura and sakura paying naruto back for loving and protecting her, thats just, wow, never expected to see this come up, I mean we could have just seen pay naruto back for protecting her but also loving, thats a thing to make me smile regardless of the outcome. The until now thing isn't anything to fret, I mean maybe because the until now was her protecting him for the change or something else could occur like for all he did until then, maybe something would result from after all of it in the end? Eh we will see on thursday, but now, I am happy enough to not need to press my curiosity more for this stuff. Its content here and I will take my leave on it. For all purposes, I can see NS stuff happening in the end and see a resolution of anything else. But this is nice, very very nice. Its enough to get everyone in a better mood since the movie stuff has come, and personally, thats the thing I like most about this now, everyone is in a better mood, so lets keep this mood for thursday shall we?

And my last question I guess is from that one other deal with sakura healing naruto the 663 stuff,

 

Thats the one saying that she is protecting narutos dream, to pay him back for loving her and protecting her until now?

 

Whatever the case it still makes sense that Naruto loves her since we also never saw him turn away from her either.

 

That deal of the until now, well maybe that until now was referring to the protection aspect? Eh not the biggest thing, to make a major fuss over. I mean again, we never saw any reason of naruto changing away from her and we got the promise in 693 again as well.

 

But for all purposes this also tends to support what we said all along, that 663 was protecting his dream and something to make NS more possible.

 

So for the most part, we are right, NS is fine, and has a big notion of something occurring?

So without needing to go into much detail guess I can simply ask the question:

 

For all we see in the databook, things are stated as fine for NS for what we practically knew already, not much for NH expect on Hinata, and practically nothing helping SS right?

Ok, guys, if that deal with Itachi poking Sakuras forehead is the answer to you know what, well we know the full deal of who was involved and well, if its real, I will be dead within the next 48 hours due to shock/hype overload of what occurred.

 

But for now, as exciting as it maybe, I will hold off everything until the end.

 

Seeing that makes me smile a lot, regardless of the outcome for what its implying, but if this was actually all real to a you know what hint, well, guess we will be hyper for morning come thursday.

 

All I know is, god help the pairing fandom when the bomb drobs because when the dreadnaught known as kishimoto releases his bomb upon the pairing fandom, if this is any indication, then the 631 event will be like a small light to this tsar-bomba in the making...

As tempting as spoilers are, again I guess I want to say to some people let me say this:

 

-Take everything with a grain of salt, even for those like this evil who have a special record.

 

-Spoilers are tempting, though I admit these ques are enough to be cryptic without spoiling all that much, given some stuff like Sasuke apologizing and the genjutsu released are reasonable in their own, I would avoid the rest past 7 once it gets there. Seeing what is "implied" is enough to satisfy me though it may not be true.

 

-There have been times I wanted to see so much of what would happen that I didn't, but I avoided these as much as possible. I mean again, one of the few things I am glad I avoided spoilers for was halo 4, the death of cortana was a big hit in the series to the fans and it would have been just, nothing special if I hadn't seen it for myself.

 

-Likewise I would want to keep the thing pure for the end, this is why I am going to stay off tumblr and most likely this site until thursday morning and see the chapter first, hell I'm going to keep a webpage open all night on mangapanda, keep it back to the fight with Naruto and Sasuke in 694 and just read it all one way through.

 

-Until the end, lets see what comes itself in the chapter everyone, see you on Thursday.

So guys, here we are, the twilight of the ending, in less than 72 hours, the ending to Naruto will finally come.

 

I know I said I had one last post, but this is the last thing to me I wanted to say that really matters.

 

Regardless of the turnout, NS or NH will be canon this Thursday, but for anything else, look at it like this:

 

I have always argued that NH and SS fans speculated their pairings as nothing more than something to spontaneously occur, that if they did, it would just be weak, rushed, convenient, easy.

 

To me, I always envisioned NH and SS as nothing more than destinations, and the sole fact a movie, with NHness lets say, to be here, if NH is canon, well then my view is confirmed that NH has been nothing this whole time but a destination.

 

The fact it would need 110 minutes in this movie between 699 and 700 to show how NH occured (if its canon) would be the fact to me that NH was nothing important in the manga, just something so easy, so convinent, Hinata literally would be downgraded to pairing fodder for the sole purpose of this along with the fact she gets well, kidnapped along with her sister (later though) and this sounds well, to much like the idealism disney crap you all know I hate.

But the sole fact the manga occured as it did, NS at this point has always been a journey and no matter what, years worth of steady progress, even as friendship, is still much more fulfilling than a simple 110 minute movie for NH to occur.

 

Because its not about the destination, its always been about the journey. Nh just to occur now, well thats just a destination, if you seek so long going somewhere, you lose purpose of what made it important in the first place and well, this is my take from NH fans now, even if NH went canon, its not fulfilling, its just a spot they wanted but at what cost? What does it have to show for it? Certainly nothing in the manga this whole time for the fact the movie exists. Call it a sellout to SP, but as I said before, we got victory where it mattered, the presentation.

 

Because NS has been riding along this whole time, thats a 100% canon fact. Its been about the journey, regardless of how Naruto and Sakura turn out, the fact we saw Naruto make the promise, love Sakura, how Sakura grew with him, how they had highs and lows, how Naruto felt unworthy of her, how Sakura felt she caused him harm, this is stuff NH will never have, because this all happened in the past, the fact these 2 went so far for each other, its always been about the journey, and what was experienced, not the outcome. Because NS has been a wonderful journey, its always been about what happened along the way, not just that end result, and yet we still have one more part in the journey, to see Naruto tell Sakura he got Sasuke back, to see her reaction to these words is the last thing I want to see, along with Naruto confessing himself to her more or less in chapter 700 if things go our way, but again, regardless of the outcome, its always been about the journey, and the one thing I can say that we have in the end, NH will never have, is a manga full of a great journey these 2 had, because NH certainly has no journey for the fact they would need a movie to address their deal.

 

Because its about the journey, the experiences, and the times along the way, everything of meaning and purpose regardless of the result, NH will never have this and again, to me, this is what matters most. I believe we will get NS, there is just so much I want to see answered from the development, the promise, the Kushina foreshadow still only being on Sakura and Minato never meeting another girl besides Sakura, I want to see Naruto fulfill his promise, I am rooting for the hero to fulfill this and confess to Sakura. Because regardless of love or friendship, its always been about the journey and thats what is most important.

 

NS has been a wonderful journey, no matter what that outcome is, its something I will always love, and just thinking about the past, makes it that much more fulfilling than a simple movie. I hope to see NS in the end like all of you, but this is what was truely important and I hope the rest of you realize that, don't get caught up in fear of the present, the destination is not what is fulfilling, its everything it took to get here, and NH had none of that in the manga should it need a movie to just serve its own ends. Because NH and SS are just destinations and just reaching them isn't fulfilling, but NS has been the journey the whole time, and to me, this is why I say, regardless, we have won where it matters, because NS was the journey the whole time and its been a deep experience with all of you I have loved being on this journey and I will never forget it.

 

Regardless of the outcome, I will still love NS and everyone here. Its been wonderful guys, lets see Naruto fulfill that promise and hopefully confess. I am rooting for Naruto, the Hero, lets see the development, the promise, and the kushina foreshadow all come together, lets see NS resolution. Because its been a wonderful journey, and we are finally at the end, its been a great one at that, fulfilling no matter the result. And we don't need a movie to fulfill anything at that.

Not going to bother interacting with the fans at this point, just be happy for the ending, be joyous if NS happens, be mature about things if NH happens.

 

To me its all that we must see in chapter 700, for the final fates of the characters since the movie is between 699 and 700.

 

The deal of people being well, concerned for the end result is this:

 

NS has the promise in this end deal and all the development and hints behind it riding it up, something that should logically be seen to a proper conclusion and resolution. Not just sidelined or unresolved. Doesn't help that NH was infrequent and didn't have naruto changing either away from sakura nor towards hinata. Its like again, if NH was the endgame, then what was the point of the Kushina foreshadow on Sakura or even just going by the arguement of it no longer applying in 691, doesn't that just seem like a big waste of ink and paper?

 

The other deal is with the movie, its a deal of with all this NHness of the movie so far, its well, is it just going to be that simple and would a movie like this have something else done in the end like Naruto saves Hinata and then NH happens just like that, so simple? Its a weak execution no matter what at this point, its like enough for some to call kishi a sellout for not doing this stuff with hinata in the first place. But its just, why all of a sudden?

 

The main issue is, well kishi was working on this movie for the past 2 years, even alongside all the manga stuff we got, we still got 631 and 663 in the time of the manga, yet nothing on NH, he still had Hinata miss out and go into the genjutsu and it was again, well if he was aware of this stuff, why didn't he just have Hinata here in the first place? Doesn't that just seem, crazy or absurd? Did kishi just give the keys to SP to go crazy?

 

I mean we have the NS stuff with the promise to be resolved, if NS goes though in chapter 700, then everything merited makes sense in the end from what came before. If NH is canon though, then well, chapter 700 would otherwise spoil that aspect of the movie and just then have the last be seen as how NH occured, but even then it would still be sudden and just well, how did this make sense to just go so suddenly and fast like that?

 

I mean for all we know, NS may just shock everyone and the movie may not be NH in the end despite the advertisements, as many have said before. I mean if NH is this obvious, than SP already spoiled the ending to the manga and that would spoil the ending to the movie, and what company would honestly spoil their own story?

 

But the main factor here is again, NS resolution and the promise. To me, its years worth of manga content seen (including the past 2 years that had NS stuff and not NH) made by the same author who made the movie, vs the aspect of this NH stuff just coming so suddenly without much merit.

 

So either kishis story goes where its logical, all things merited with NS, or its a cheap rushed ending and he otherwise soldout to SP and just made NH for the commercialism because screw the story and development right? Make NH canon to make her fans wet their pants in excitment!

 

No I am looking that the promise should have some resolution, but to me, I want to see years of prior material meet an appropriate resolution, not just sidelined for something the fans preferred. I would want to see a story merited with what we got completed with what we have seen, in this case NS, not one given out into commercialism because the fans preferred it. Either naruto fishines as an integrity series, or its a sellout with NH, thats my take.

 

But for all purpose, I'll be mature about this stuff.

So as all of us know, the end of Naruto is upon us, the finale of this series we loved so much is finally about to end, Naruto just got Sasuke back to the light side lets say, and for anything else, the only surefire thing to happen aside from the Genjutsu being released is the thing thats been a thing of both excitement and concern to some of us. But this is something I want to say and otherwise just give a little insight towards how others may feel NS has in the end despite the NHness of the movie.

 

This will be my last post until the finale.

 

Thats why I feel I should say this and otherwise make a request to the entire site, something I feel even the Admins will Respect.

 

Lets make this a pure experience, lets make this something one last time we can all enjoy.

 

Yes I mean all of us are mature to know, this is a fictional series, whatever the outcome lets be mature about it, even if its not the best of the intended from the authors writing.

 

So what am I asking for to be mature about?

 

Lets make this a good experience, lets make this something to remember, I mean like make this a pure experience in the end, no spoilers, no tags of occurrences when that last chapter thread comes up, lets make this something we all can enjoy.

 

I mean like imagine how much special this will be without the spoilers, try to ignore that temptation itself is hard but it will be so much better in the end to wait for the final 2 chapters to see the translationed stuff. I mean like even when that thread of the first poster finds it up and makes that thread, just put something in there like this is the end, the finale of naruto, etc.

 

Because this is the finale time we will be doing this at H&E here. As FoolishYoungling put up a while back, the whole thread of us to be mature, lets enjoy this as a finale that is special, as Naruto fans, as NS fans regardless of the outcome.

 

I can tell you, spoilers can be tempting, sometimes I was in a rush to see what happened after some chapters like 450 or 631, but I want to see the ending without suprise, I want to see it as it should be, my first experience in those final pages.

 

I can tell you guys that for anything you may have been excited for, spoilers can be a thing you want to know, you want to see how the characters turn out, Hell I was almost tempted to spoil halo 4 for myself but if I had, the moment I saw Cortana die in the end, that would have been a big spoiler to me, I mean this was a game series where you came to enjoy her company as she aided you, she was essentially the secondary character behind the John-117, now she is dead and the Halo series goes on, killing a main character wasn't easy and had many Halo fans shocked and saddened like how could you have Halo without Cortana? It boggles the mind to some even 2 years later. The fact I was able to ignore that spoiler temptation just made the end result that much more special and I feel, well, maybe we should all resist the lure of temptation for this finale.

 

So I ask everyone, please no spoilers or notions of what happens, I myself will follow this and not act until I see the chapter upon Mangapanda or the link to it from here like others have put up in the past.

 

So lets have one last ride and make it special shall we?

 

Otherwise I have a couple things about the movie to say, stuff that will just again, lets say put promise to NS.

 

We know how some have been worried about NH and the movie, the stuff just coming again and again, it seems like kishi just gave to bad writing and just wont do anything for NS right? Well thats the funny thing, because well, after looking at some stuff, looking at the past and the present, its just a deal that, there is well, promise in looking for reasonable doubt. Because reasonable doubt will be able to give some truth and this is some stuff I really think people will like.

 

I guess the first thing I should say though is even though the movie has a lot of NHness to it, its actually not the end, thanks to info from chatte, it turns out chapter 700 is an epilogue after the period of the movie, 699 will end part 2 while chapter 700 is the finale of everyone else.

 

So not to alarm anyone, but one thing is assured to happen in chapter 700:

 

NS or NH will be canon

 

But some feel that NH is just going to be canon because of the marketing or the showcasing, but again, just to help throw some stuff out there, its just that something feels off and well, I guess we can put it like this:

 

Each NS and NH you can say have stuff going for them, NS has the manga material in the past while NH has stuff implying its going to occur for the movie but to some this feels "unnatural" given the past and thats the thing to look at:

 

Look at NS and NH as they are now with the manga and the movie for one very special reason:

 

The last has been in production for over 2 years, this means everything kishi did with the movie, he still wrote the manga as it is, to this point, even with the promise coming forward in the end along with the NH impliedness of the final movie.

 

What this means is, well yeah, its a very good reason to question Kishi's writing because:

 

-The NS stuff in the past still exists, its still happened, it still came, the development, hints, the kushina foreshadow and parallel, its all there, at this point its it happens or its like well what was the point?

 

-The last seemingly NH oriented well, it doesn't either help the past of what NH missed, in that kishi had written this movie along with still the manga as we saw, ex: as we saw 631 and 663 occur as they did, kishi was still writing the movie as he was and so it becomes a question one would ask, what is kishi trying to do then?

 

Because looking at it, we can see a problem, one that is a curious factor, if kishi put so much on NS over the years, why suddenly go NH with a movie and just bring it out in 110 minutes, doesn't that seem like NS just becomes incomplete and NH still just seems rather rushed and unfulfilled? If NS went canon then everything done in the manga is everything merited by all logic, but NH though with a movie, seems like a shocker. So what can we get from this then?

 

That is where the promise of NS comes in, ironically, its exactly that, the promise made to get sasuke back so long ago and for this reason, this is really what I find ironic, the promise which was a very central element to NS, to see it needing completion in the final 2 chapters, ironically even in this time, NS may just surprise us.

 

I mean in regards to the movie, its still a good question: So much NS over the years yet NH in the movie? I am not going to say anything about marketing but there is one thing I really really find as a well, notion that may just be a better question:

 

If NH is this obvious to occur, then with the movie being advertised so much with the NHness, and chapter 700 confirmed to be beyond the movie, this leads me to 2 conclusions:

 

-1. That SP already spoiled the manga ending directly and this movie is to say "how NH occurred" if Nh is in fact the end pairing, but this still just again leads to many questions like well why not the focus in the manga and why all the kushina stuff?

 

-2. The manga ending may not be NH after all and because of the promise and preexisting NS stuff, the result in the movie may be something completely not shown, aka we could have a range of things from Hinata sacrificing herself or moving on from Naruto.

 

-Not a major reason but some have put out that Sakuras noted theme in this story is well, Life and fate, for others like Naruto having dreams, Shikamaru having morals, Sai having relationships, and Hinata having love, well then Sakura has fate so something should happen right? I mean even for a movie Hinata getting some larger role, Sakura, one of the most important in the series has to have some role right? I mean theres no need to worry about SS, I mean there is no basis for that now, Sasuke himself even from the movie.  Likewise some others have noted, we have not even seen much from sakura in this movie despite knowing that she has some role in the team to save hanabi, so obviously something should happen right?

 

But this is where I again, just find a curious point:

 

-The NS stuff in the past is the key to what may just lie in the end, mainly with the promise, we know this will be resolved, that it will be met, that whatever the outcome, NS will get some resolution, regardless of the outcome:

 

As love or friendship, there has to be a NS resolution.

 

And for all we know the final chapter may just suprise us because as I said before, if NH is that obvious with the movie than shouldn't we already be just expecting naruto with hinata in the end, or could there possibly be something else because as the manga is, there is something lying down there with the promise:

 

Naruto will mention some completion to that promise and well for all we know, chapter 700 could just as I said before, bring something that was hidden, all the NS stuff may just come forward if the movie is not what we expect.

 

Is it possible this is able to happen? Yes, otherwise I would be suprised for SP to just directly give away the ending like this and really well, there isn't anyway to see NH seriously just in a 110 minute movie after the whole manga passed without much for HInata nor Naruto changing away from Sakura or towards Hinata. I mean it seems, well just silly right?

 

Because at this point, it feels if NH happens, then kishi just went with commercial writing, the stuff that ruins the writing industry, stories just given a result because of money and fanfare over the integrity of the story, but again, this is just a funny notion because remember, kishi has been writing the manga with the NS stuff and the movie with the NH stuff over these past 2 years, so its a good question to say he either just has some strange idea in mind or maybe this movie isn't all its been seen as so far.

 

But as I said, its really a curious thing in this final stretch, rather than worry, I am well curious, curious because of all this.

 

The end result is just that, we have the manga, setup right here, Sasuke recently pulled out of his madness, Naruto can finally say to Sakura he fulfilled the promise so aside from confessing, perhaps chapter 700 will speak of something entirely different in the end right?

 

Then again, there is also the NH plastered stuff for the movie and for all cases, its again, a curious deal, is it just that expected to have NH regardless of the ending and story integrety? Because by that count then the manga ending in chapter 700 is already spoiled and this movie is nothing more than how NH happened.

 

Otherwise if its NS in the end, well then what is the movie for? Perhaps then it says something else but takes Hinata into account.

 

Whatever the outcome, I hope we can all enjoy the series as it has been, NS is safe no matter what, love or friendship (friendship is still a ship technically) I feel the only thing that we need to see for this final chapter duo is to see resolution for NS no matter the result.

 

I also hope we can all take this final Thursday as a special one, this is the last time we will have this together. I mean regardless the series was fun, we can still get that anime episode of 663, and even if we lose, well NS at least got the lions share.

 

I mean again, if we see NH in the manga, well then SP already spoiled it and the final chapter seems outta nowhere with Hinata in the end despite the promise this close and that the movie is nothing more than the thing to explain how it happened, but even then well if NH happened in the manga, technically the movie would be spoiled too right? I mean you wouldn't need to be surprised in the movie after seeing the manga. But if NS were to be canon in that final chapter, now that is something that would need to be seen considering the movie. If NS suprises us all, then the movie would be to say how Hinata is resolved and that on its own makes sense and makes for a reason to see what happens right? I mean you won't need to bother with the movie if you know NH occurs, the movie would be just to see how, but even then wouldn't it still feel unusual considering everything else in the past NS did get and NH didn't? If NH is the end result, then SP already spoiled it, no need to be surprised if it occurs, but if NS is the end result, then there is a big reason to see the final movie. A NS ending in the manga doesn't spoil the movie in anyway, but instead speaks well, how was Hinata resolved then? I mean just because kishi said it was a love story, he never said what results exactly with the love now did he?

 

All I know is, things seem, inconsistent, NS may just go through with the promise for all we know, and for anything else, I hope we can all enjoy this, spoiler free, and have one last good morning to remember, NS we can freak out and go into joy, NH comes, well lets just enjoy the ending like a mature group shall we?

 

I look forward to seeing you all on Thursday morning, lets see this amazing series end with a bang.

 

That is not true, in RtN they hyped the story big time. While the story in RtN wasn't particularly spectacular, it at least had a lot of good moments with actual good character interactions and theme. In the Last, it seems really uninspiring. Maybe my opinion will change when we get more information and/or when it is finally release, it is just I feel like we are making a big deal of this movie, when there may not be any reason to make a big deal of it.

 

Well RtN let naruto see his parents, but as for the deal of NH and SS fans not caring for the story, thats my final conclusion with them, after all the NS stuff for it being called a dead pairing since 469, its just a sad case for even a "dead pairing" like ours to get more attention than theirs and even more insane to think kishi would just have sasuke spontaneously love sakura or naruto just forget his promise now and/or just go to hinata despite the whole ordeal from 615 to 631 which enraged the NH fanbase. Because if our pairing is dead, well we devoured the remains of Nh and SS because to get more development and focus as nothing intended, its just a sheer embarrassment for NH and SS at this point.

 

But hey, looking how Nh fans ranted over 631 and 663, at how SS fans said Sasuke always loved Sakura, when it was blatantly obvious he didn't, even for those to think he wasn't being serious in 693 or tried to make pitful excuses about the genjutsu despite him showing sakura himself killing her, then trampling on her views, thats just the limit of absurd and stupidity from a fandom, its just pure fandumb at this point.

 

My conclusion of the Nh and ss fandom is that they didn't care for the story, they only wanted some blatant absurdity to occur regardless of the complications and unacceptability. Because they still believe sasuke will love sakura (completely contradicting their view that he loved her already) and that naruto had somehow gotten over sakura and/or went to hinata (despite us never seeing it and the fact naruto still loves Sakura) or that the kushina foreshadow means nothing because of 691 (yet what we saw we saw, sakura was like kushina and neither way does this help hinata, this makes the whole naruto meeting his mother and father deal kinda pointless on this one aspect doesn't it? Minato didn't even meet Hinata for that point!) God I am done with the stupidity of this pairing war, only going to enjoy NS no matter what, just want to see the promise tackled and fulfilled. Its like these fans loved to work offscreen and ignore what was mostly onscreen unless it was in favor of them, everything onscreen is non-canon unless they say so, everything NS is fake and a lie, everything fanfiction based on NH and SS is true. God glad this should all end. I just hope we get a good NS event between naruto and sakura for the promise fulfilled.

Woah his short hair! .____. Idk how to feel about it. Why so many scarfs, Naruto? Looks like his arm will be fine one way or another if he's using rasengan. 

I bet he has so many scarfs cause he wants to fight in style or for a certain person, so guess he has a different colored scarf for each person tagging along so..

 

Naruto x everyone else is canon

 

The big hype of the NH fandom concerning the movie:

 

-the sketch of the mysterious girl claiming its Hinata (and that she's pregnant with Naruto's child, this one was confirmed to be completely false).

-The scarf according to them it was given to Naruto by Hinata (from what I've read this is also false).

-The screenshot of Naruto walking ahead with a somber expression, behind him Hinata.

 

So apparently the third one is the main reason why NH fans are making a big fuss. Including Forneverworld who just like the fandom jump the gun and scream canon. I lost count how many times they have jump to conclusions and they're proven wrong.

 

 

The NH fandom screamed canon at 437, ironic it turned out never resolved in the manga

 

They shouted in 615, yet that went nowhere, instead being the overzealous meatheads they are, it just became overplastered and since these are the types of fans who would spend any amount of money on a picture of this stuff, they put it on a cover, opening, ending, and in a game.

 

And now this, well hey, maybe if they scream enough NH went canon not by development but by hype, no seriously this is why it gets the attention, because of insane fans who think something so overly simplified should be answered.

 

Seriously, I have reason to hate the SS fandom for some of the most severely stupid reasons ever when their own ship has been anything but love, a fandom full of the most double standard tightwads I have ever seen who think that their negativity display matters not, that everything will be better in the end at a sudden flick of the switch like I have always said, but the NH fandom, I came to hate and distance myself from them because its just so overhyped, canon or not, its overhyped and its just outright annoying. Part of me wants NS to go canon to just shut these guys up. Not entrall them based upon poor storytelling and marketing just so their preferences are answered, seriously, if you ask me:

 

The NH and SS fandoms have no respect for the story at all, because even with SS being mostly negative and NH having no consistency, being infrequent, just mostly marketing, fillers, and hype, it would really be a letdown in my opinion that NH or SS happen because this is the true basis for it, looking at the wider picture, NS isn't marketed, it just exists in the manga and its hated for the dumbest reasons generally in the west, but hey the NH/SS fandom is the same fandom that wanted to butcher the english language and say naruto confused girlfriend and girl who is a friend and several other horrid views that are just plain the true examples of those who think like this are proof that devolution exists as well and the stupid can spread apparently. To me this is a fact, sadly the one causality in the pairing wars was rationality among these fandoms and no matter what happens now, this is still true.

 

Because seriously, when these two fandoms have nothing but either the basis of "because their girl loves them", some anti-NS statement that is utter bs, or something like Sasuke loving sakura even now past 693 or that he will (which completely contradicts their eariler statements years before from him secretly loving her), that the kushina focus is a joke, that NS is all plaontic:

 

It makes me sad to hear comments like this and that there are people that honestly think like this because after everything in this pairing war, the amount of foolishness and absurd claims on NS again and again, it makes no difference at this point, NS still had the most focus and development, anything they say, no matter what just makes NH and SS look even more convoluted than any fanfic pairing now. Its like why then would kishi have focused on NS so much and not NH or SS? Why this waste? Why just go with the deal of "because the girls hoped or loved them" rather than an actual story plot event like naruto not being able to confess due to his promise?

 

Thats the difference with NS and the others till the end, we can at least say there is a reason NS can occur, SS is just a mess and NH just has Hinata in the genjutsu with nothing important in the manga remaining. Because to me, this love subplot should have the only pairing with development occur, one that still has a plot element unfulfilled but now able to be, not the other 2 which just run on the "because she loves him" reason.

 

I have faith in NS and hope the promise comes full swing, but after this pairing war, god, never getting in another one again, no matter whats canon, least we were the smart and reasonable ones, not the insane diluted just hope for the ending to occur instantly ones or the lets suck up to the boob one and just put down everyone else fandom.

 

Part of the good thing about this war ending, least the NH and SS fans will shut the hell up either way....

So ya it let me get this straight, naruto either has multiple scarfs or just a green one?

Well so much for the red scarf of fate since we see a green one, even the lighting shows it as green, in that same picture with sakura, her outfit is still red so yeah it's green.

The enemy isn't even a hygua or byakugan user, well so why would he need hanabi? Some crazy stuff only she can unlock? Wait a minute, hinata still isn't the heir to her clan? Perhaps her role in this movie is ascending to that instead of nh?

Oh boy as far as I am concerned, until the ending of the manga comes, this is still noncanon in my book, hell if the ending is fine enough if it has enough to make ns be canon, then that's it for me, nothing else needed.

Isn't it funny how there is nh hype then a it more comes out to say it's not exactly like that? I mean hanabi a role isn't a means to grant nh and Sasuke still has a role so something with him should be more important than hinata. Otherwise if it's going by canon, unless we see stuff from the manga continuing, then surely some ns stuff should occur as well?

We just need to wait and see a bit more. That is all. Not all nh hype as it once was though.

Besides we have a good chance if ns stuff in the end with the promise so there's also that.

Guess if I should mention anything even as more of the movie comes out, we don't know how everything will fully turn out, I mean NS is still a possibility or it could happen in the manga, whatever we see. I mean the tagline the last story, a first love, we don't know how this can go but still there is a lot of questioning towards what happens I mean character development wise, yeah if Sasuke isn't in the village then theres no need to worry about SS, I mean its still dead.

 

As for another thing, I don't know if any of you remember but chatte pointed this out, that on the site there was some chakra point minigame to unlock wallpapers, and Sakura's card I guess, had the words from Yamato and if someone could correct me, Hinatas was completely unrelated to this.

 

Even then, I still say Nh has nothing on NS presentation wise, no matter how SS or NH would occur, well it wouldn't be as fulfilling or just not that exciting.

 

But yeah lets hope we get one more NS event and hope everything turns out right in the end, because one person once said do what is right, not what is easy, and NS is what is right, NH and SS are easy and just not that exciting.

 

To me, Nh and SS have had the damage done and just are not believable, because the main story has passed and never involved Hinata, to now need to make this extra space in the end for it to possibly occur, yeah thats kinda weak. SS well, thats just a mess by anymeans.

If anything, I say the most believable thing is just because of the promise naruto was intent on finishing, there should be some NS moment born from it, maybe even NS itself. Its like everything would merit itself and come to full form there. Unlike NH and SS, there wouldn't be any issues or shortcomings.

 

I am just hoping that with the promise done naruto can finally confess.

You guys all know what this means though right?

 

With Sasuke back to his senses, Naruto should finally be okay to be hokage at anytime and otherwise confess to Sakura! He fulfilled that promise.

Well jokes aside, this was a good conclusive chapter, now all we need to see is how the ending plays out. If anything, now I am excited about the ending, next week, naruto may just confess to sakura, I mean now the promise is something he had fulfilled. Still there isn't reason for Sasuke to be on sakura, that's for sure, but naruto fulfilling the promise may just happen now. Likewise it was kinda shocking to see what happened to their arms, geez, Sakura's going to have a lot of work to patch that stuff up.

Not the best chapter but finally Sasuke is out of kitten mode, but still this is what his development had been leading to, for naruto to turn him back. Still doesn't make up for the past and lack of stuff with him like in SS but yeah I feel ns may get it's due in the final 2 chapters next week.

You guys know I have faith in NS and as more movie stuff comes out, its almost well disheartening, not because of whats revealed, but rather just how people act, either in disappointment or overexcited, because the manga is almost done and we have 2 weeks left, even now with there possibly a situation like the NS ova, I mean yes its good to be excited for the end but I would want to be just that, excited.

 

Because most recent news has been that its simply just Hanabi gets kidnapped and Naruto, Sakura, Shikamaru, Sai, and Hinata go to save her, along with Sasuke having a role and the moon falling down, I would actually be okay not bothering to look at anything movie related for now, you know why? I would rather avoid the shock and disappointment. Especially because next chapter could be something big for NS, maybe even the end, I would want to save that and see what comes rather than be conflicted when more movie news comes out, because it seems like Hinata is just too toxic right now, on anything.

 

Am I afraid NS won't go canon? No, rather I would just want to simply go not paying attention to the movie news and you know, what you don't know doesn't nessessairly hurt you, I would rather take all the material at once at this point rather than be worried, I want to be exicted for the ending regardless. Because as more movie news comes out, one group will have some shock and be worried while another will become overzealous. I mean for all we know if the trailer comes out, what if it hinted NS or some new material came out this coming week? Just food for thought.

 

But for anycase, this is why I am just waiting on the manga and avoiding any movie news, I want to keep exicted for this chapter and see what happens, not be saddened by another event that doesn't even tell much.

 

Even then, I don't even know if the movie still has been called canon or non-canon, I mean its built off the manga after the war, thats for sure, but again, did they ever say if this is in the same realm as dragonball GT being a non-canon extension or not? Thats my point, I mean did they call it canon or non-canon yet? Even depending on how the manga ends, for all we know the manga can have its own epilogue or further than 2 years timeskip ending, or that type which its a good acceptable ending of its own regardless of the continuation, kinda like halo 4 or return of the jedi, you know more lies beyond but the ending to that story itself is a good one for all the other ones as well. So yeah I won't be active as much until wensday when the new chapter comes out, but again, heres hoping NS goes canon, and even if it doesn't well we still got the best development and display out of it, I mean at this point, lady gts after the war doujin is a good after war ending in my book.

Well if you guys wanted any good news this came out:

 

 

Covers chapters 680 to 689.

 

Title is "I love You" given from what Kakashi said in the finale of the Kagyua fight.

Well for anything else,

 

Naruto still needs resolution with Sakura before Nh could even reasonably occur, I mean guys remember, unlike the other loves Naruto has a mental block for why he couldn't just confess and for all that, its like if he gave up on sakura or just moved to hinata, thats contradictory to his never give up attitude and even then, he is the freaking hero, he needs his chance to confess and resolve stuff, he needs to have his answer, not just settle it all at once out of uneasiness with the fake confession as some anti-NS fans like to believe. I mean even now he still loves Sakura, its just again, contradictory for him to give up or settle for anyone else when he feels unable to even confess to sakura because of the promise and the promise is still there...

 

Even then, there is potential in this movie for NS to go canon and Sakura is the freaking heroine, she should get some big role, and its kinda funny even hanabi gets more of a purpose than hinata does, hinata is there simply because of Hanabi, isn't that a funny deal? And besides, with sasuke having some big importance here, well remember how usually anything sasuke and hinata related never mix? Sasuke is still already known to have a bigger role than hinata, so, just how much of a role would hinata herself actually have? Yeah its funny how things work out. Who knows, that album cover could all be because hanabi was kidnapped. Overhype is everything as usual.

 

Until more info comes out and things are more clear, I really see no reason to be concerned for NS, because its still fine and knowing sasuke has some major role, well this isn't a clear cut NH movie like some want to believe, I mean NS was definately a clear cut NS movie as a secondary focus, but if this is involving hanabi and something she was kidnapped for, is it a crime to say that Hanabi has a bigger role already than hinata? Oh boy, now I find this old info from the morning ironic and just funny now, wow, the fandom overreacted again. Oh boy, maybe its still good to avoid some of the anime sites for a while, now this is funny. Because nothing was clear cut NH like some thought, NS still has its presence in the manga and if not resolved there, it would still need resolution in the future in the movie or beyond for anything of reason and it still could occur. Likewise we have that evidence and development still unresolved so yeah, we are fine. Who knows, this may still turn to NS in the end. If its just one part of the plot well, everyone has a role and I am sure Sakura has a major one as well. She is the heroine. If it involves Sasuke and Hamura, surely something for Sakura concerning naruto and sasuke exists too, and remember, something with naruto can be for sakura as well. So yeah chill and wait for more, as I said I am going to bug out for a few days, but after all this, yeah, feeling fine for NS.