Guys there is this girl I like, but I don't know what to do? Should I attempt to kill her? That seems not only work, but actually be applauded by my fellow crazies i I mean fans.

Thanks.

By the way, these mathematicians were so successful with this equation, they got on the news yesterday on BBC. Did you see them on TV ?

I did they broadcasted internationally. They just kept repeating Sakura is a tsundere, it was really weird.

Drunkuto makes even more sense now. That's why the 10 tails is made up of various beats whose total tails surpass the number 10...

Damn drunk Kishi

So what's everyone's guess for when Kishi pulls a Rowling and admits that it should have been NS as the final pairing?

I say when around the time boruto starts to fail

Ohhhh now I see! Kishi, SP, and Naruto himself were drunk off the sake!

Now I now why there was that horrible ending and pairings that were inexplicable! Well, that is until I realized what was in front of me the entire time...Naruto is an alcoholic!

Thanks for the undeniable sourcing guys, that picture really convinced me. Whew, that's a load of my chest.

@ bthug : Dude, you get a 10/10.
 
I've heard there was a conference for mathematicians to create a Tsundere equation after witnessing Sakura Haruno; One of the most known Tsundere characters.
 
Math books will be updated soon

Thank you. But you're damn good yourself. My mathematician gives you an 11/10, which is ironically the same number Sakura got on the Tsundere equivalent scale

I didn't even know what a tsundere was or that it was even a thing until I read on virtually every corner and space of the internet that Sakura was a tsundere.

It was actually kinda weird how much it was stated that Sakura is a tsundere, it was even written on my bathroom wall...

You know what's funny, if it was put written/hinted clear as day that Naruto and Sakura would be/should be the final pairing then I personally might have rooted for tenten.

She doesn't get much love imo and I actually think she's the most attractive lol

A is one person, and Sasuke is a rogue ninja of Konoha. We have no idea how the appeal process worked. A certainly could have been a hold out, or he wouldn't even have been there, but he certainly doesn't have final say. 
 
By all means, it would have been great if the appeal process was detailed, though I understand why it wasn't. 
 
 

 
Actually Sakura says after his first sorry, "Sorry, for what?" Then Sasuke says, "For everything", and Sakura says "You better be." 
 
You're still digging a trench in that prison isn't a punishment. That's not a very valid argument. A valid argument would be he wasn't punished enough, which is where I am trying to get you to switch to. And no argument was put forward that his journey was a punishment at any point in this discussion. 
 
Excusing Sasuke would be saying that he was innocent. He's not, he did awful and terrible things. But I'm not going to diminish the good he did either, the saving of the world is creditable to Team 7, regardless of their personal motivations. -Even- if doing so made it easier for Sasuke to rule, it does not invalidate that he saved it. By all means say he did it for selfish reasons, but he still helped save it, and that's not an easy weight to just throw out to balance when determining a pardon, particularly when the victim has sufficiently learned the lesson, or narrative intent shows as much, anyway.
 
You have captured the meaning of Sardonic, but not humor, I am afraid. 
 
 

 
Some of these have answers in the text.
 
For example, why would Naruto comment at this point? His crush continues to be less and less focused on, especially in the final few hundred chapters. 
 
Kishimoto shows love as thematically enduring, which I believe has some cultural foundation to it (You can see a lot of archetypes of people in Japanese works with an enduring love to a character that perseveres no matter the hardship). By his words to switch to Naruto would invalidate and put to question both past and future love, specifically because Naruto is now the "cool guy", and it would make her seemingly shallow. 
 
And on Sakura's actions in 699, I feel like it is ignored that Sasuke changed. There's also a passage of time between this moment and the end of the war. Given Sakura's unwavering feelings, it makes sense. It would only not make sense if her feelings did waver. 
 
Sasuke liking Sakura back has inferring in 693 you can make of, and has some basis sourcing all the way back to the Chuunin Exams.
 
The one thing hit is Sakura's love for Sasuke isn't ever elaborated, not even later, due to Kishimoto not wanting it to feel like a contrived reason.

I'm not trying to get into a back and forth (yes this is the debate thread) but I say that because having read everything and being a writer myself (mfa) (and it's my job) I don't believe the pairings were grounded rightfully in the plot.

Why would naruto comment? You say because his crush is less focused? Well then if that's your point why does Naruto chase Sasuke to the ends of the earth when Sasuke as no interest. ( also even as a child watching the anime I felt the reason for baritone chasing sasuke was contrived and the ending cemented that imo)

You say kishi shows love as enduring? Well that what about the main characters love? Why is it not enduring?

You say Sakuras actions make sense cause her love is unwavering, but then agree that it was never explained why...so how can a writer put something in a plot, have it carry out through and through, and end with it? Those shouldn't be possibilities especially when there are actual uncontrived reasons for why she would like Naruto......like I said poor writing and it doesn't make sense which is my biggest gripe.

Finally I don't know what chapter 693 is and I'm too lazy to look it up cause it doesn't matter. I'm not gonna change my mind and neither will you BUT I I doubt something written 7 chapters prior to the end justifies and compares to the previous 693 chapters.

But you see it doesn't matter. You will reply to this without trying to understand and see things from a different point of view. A pov that I believe is grounded, or at the very least more grounded in the story details.

Have a nice day, I won't read your reply :)

nice work on the post. From the beginning it just made sense that it should be NS and SH

So after the ending of Naruto I distanced myself from the franchise, not only because of the pairing, but what I thought was truly abysmal writing near the end of the manga. However, I recently purchased Storm 4 (bought it from eBay so anyone involved with Naruto would not profit, not that it really matters lol) and so I've been playing through the story mode and I just can't believe how some of the stuff played out.

 

Now some of the moments in the game vary slightly from the manga, but their is one part where Sakura is captured by Madara and Sasuke uses this an opportunity to attack Madara, Naruto saves Sakura. Sakura comments that Sasuke really doesn't care about her...

 

Then towards the very end Sakura pleads with Sasuke to stay and he calls her annoying...and stabs her through the heart, granted it was a genjutsu.

 

Then after all this, Sakura asks to travel with Sasuke with disregard for anything else....it's like wow....Sakura really was just destroyed as a character. Imagine any person every doing that? That's some serious battered women syndrome (Which is not funny, just using it as an example I suppose.)

 

 

And the worst part, THE WORST PART (at least for me) there just is no explanation or anything grounded in the plot to explain these actions.

 

Why oh why does Sakura have this undying and unnatural love for sasuke. And how can she just ignore Naruto after everything, it just doesn't make sense to me. In one corner you have somebody you inexplicably 'love" and in the other corner u have someone who you've spent an exorbitant amount of time with

 

 

Why is their no comment or emotion from Naruto regarding Sakura's feelings. Its been a driving point since the beginning and its Naruto he comments about everything especially something important to him.

 

And why on Earth would Sasuke like Sakura back? Where did that come from? It took him years and countless fights and death just to accept Naruto, so where is the explanation for marrying Sakura. Not to mention Karin was introduced and their is clearly a better bond between them too.

 

And then of course I went and watched a bunch of NS moments and let me tell you man that OVA 6...whoever made that had it right. That's how Naruto should have ended.

 

Ah sorry, for the rant. It's really late lol.

Can I just say how happy I am that people are still here.

Got tons of new shirts peeps. Fellow comic book fans will especially like. 

 

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Yeah there no way Kishi would pull a Rowling, because he started Boruto. Saying something like would be sort of betraying Boruto.

Thank you! (They're still available!)

Boruto could have gotten any other power up/s by bloodline XD

But not if it was Naruto and Sakura, right?

 

Also do you think we will get  a J.K rowling situation where years from now Kishi will say that it should have been Naruto and Sakura and he regrets it? Not that it would do us any good.

 

SMH why am i always on the losing end of this kitten

So not sure if this has been brought up and to be honest I don't follow much of Naruto other then w.e some brat posts on instagram and I happen to see that Boruto has some eye power that is only possible because of his bloodlines. Got me thinking this is why Kishi chose this as the final pairings….

 

Also why is Boruto just Sasuke with blond hair…smh kishi, should have just wrote a sasuke manga..

Got yet another new product, I think this is for everyone. 

 

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got a new product 

 

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kishi probably did all of naruto and boruto so he could finally find someway to make naruto and sasuke family. i. e boruto and sarada or w.e the f her name is

Wow awesome thank you so much! Means a lot to me

Hey everyone, needless to say I'm an avid anime (and NS) fan, that's why I've decided to start my own clothing line featuring low key and subtle anime tees. (As those are the types of stuff I gravitate towards) Here is the link!

 

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This is the first of many so stay tuned. Also if you want follow me on instagram (Anime4eva1) for the latest updates.

 

 

Sorry to interject.

 

Whoa its been a yrs since I've been here. Used to be an avid poster, man I miss those days.

 

Still think ending of Naruto was absolute kitten. No evidence of SS/NH through out entire manga, except one sided borderline obsessions over from Hinata and Sakura.

 

Did see substantial evidence for NS in terms of things that happened BETWEEN Naruto and Sakura as well as motiffs laid throughout series.

 

Amway glad to see you guys are still going strong. I actually came here to talk about a anime clothing company ive started but no one seems to visit the artist center lol.