Naruto Chapter 629

How?

@rocci

Wouldn't you mean that Rin is the key? That panel of Kakashi being surprised feels like it's meant to be more. I think that conversation about Rin wanting Kakashi to kill her will be expanded somehow.

More like who is naruto's rin.

You know seeing the Obito, Rin, and Kakashi parallel with Team Seven you guys don't think Sakura could possibly end up taking a chidori for Naruto that's intended for him in future chapters because you know how much Kishimoto loves to play the parallel card so much.

I think it's not from sasuke, but madara, obito or juubi atack. To hurt her and make her seem dead. And obito will ask and voila, naruto unleash his ultimate attack, talk no jutsu.

If that's all it is, then it's good development for her and I'm glad for it



Pretty much this.



About Obito's Heel Face turn, we know for sure that there really is no other way than somehow have Rin stop him and change his mind. But she can't do that unless she's ET'ed or something. But there is probably one way..... Isobu. If Isobu still retained memories of him being sealed in Rin, I wonder if he also transferred those memories to Naruto.

I'm thinking that during Yagura's rule (Obito mind control), Obito may have gloated to Yagura how he would use him to destroy Kiri inside out for revenge on Rin's death, not knowing that Isobu was conscious enough to remember Obito's gloating. Mind-controlled he may be, but that doesn't mean he wasn't able to process the information (at least on a subconscious level). He put 2 and 2 together, and transferred those specific memories of Rin to Naruto. Only question is, how it will come into play later. There would need to be a specific trigger for the memories to resurface.

Of course, the last option would be to tell Obito that Rin died because she wanted to join him, who she thought as dead at the time. But who knows if it'll be as effective as the above.



Nice one.



Isn't it both?? I'll quote Gaara's speech:



What I think the point of Obito's lines is that the cycle of hatred that exists in the Shinobi world is the reason he became this way. The Mist's lust for power and destruction robbed Rin of an otherwise normal life (for a ninja) and in turn, robbed her from him. Basically, if you look at it deeper, the cycle of hatred existing in the Shinobi world is what really turned Obito this way. I'm not dismissing the fact that Obito is basically whining, nor am I dismissing his actions, but what I'm pointing out is how he turned out this way.

If I really look back on Gaara's speech, it really does seem to foreshadow Rin's death. Well played, Kishi. Well played.

Bolded: It's Senju DNA. what else can't it do??

Also, have you guys noticed how Naruto was shocked when Sakura came to heal him... He still seems oblivious to Sakura's care for him...

To people who are concerned about Hinata getting panel time:

Chill out. Not everything has to be viewed through pairing goggles. Hinata is simply getting a little development and, as someone said, she is the Hyuuga heiress. If she wants to sort out the Main/Branch House injustice within her own family, she'll need to learn how to lead.

In fact, if you want to worry about panel time, I would worry about Bee. Poor guy hasn't had a single panel despite being the Alliance's other Jinchuuriki - Naruto is doing all the work.

Don't forget to take a step back and look at the bigger picture; NaruSaku is still be most developed pairing by far. There are plenty of nice moments from past years and still plenty of reasons to be optimistic, you just need to take a step back and remind yourself of what we've seen over the course of the entire manga so far. Once you start worrying about things, it's all too easy to fall into negativity.

/pairingstuff

The Rin story was quite a twist, didn't see that one coming! It does make perfect sense. Obito's gaping hole in the chest is purely symbolic, it's meant to convey that he has no feelings for the world at all; the old Obito died a long time ago. How do you talk-no-jutsu a man who has nothing left to care for? Kishimoto does seem to be hinting that Kakashi may have no other choice than to kill his old friend for the sake of the future, especially since they're both isolated inside their own dimension. They won't know what's going on outside.

The Juubi does seem to be taken aback by Naruto, seems like it's getting a bit nervous. I wonder if the silhouette of the Rinnegan is meant to convey that Naruto reminds the Juubi of the Sage of the Six Paths, the last human to defeat it?

Of course, I do dearly hope that Naruto won't be getting the Rinnegan!

As much as I'd like to take everything as a clue I think Naruto was just surprised to have Sakura suddenly appear behind him.

When you're walking down the street and someone taps your shoulder from behind you can get surprised as well.

I didnt see that way, but i can see that fanservice is happening all the time, Hinata suddenly was that, she became a "leader" with only being capable of encouraging Naruto?
Well i can expect no less than a character that "develops" offpanel.

Well about Obito and Rin, i can see that kishimoto is doing last hour changes because srsl, this whole explanation of she stepping in to die.
WTF kishi, she dies she even says Kakashi with a surprised reaction like she was killed being betrayed or something like that, if she wanted to die why she'd gave the facial expression, would not her have died with another facial expression?
Also Obirin became a parallel for SasuSaku.

Also Naruto unlocking the rinnengan = awesomeness.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 08 May 2013 - 09:09 AM.

Ermm what???? how so??

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Edited by HauntedCake, 08 May 2013 - 09:09 AM.

That might be true as well... but wasn't he next to her on the last chapter? He should've waited for this, more or less.

As for Hinata panel time, really, I am not worried at all. On the contrary, I did liked it, very much! Even though it was Naruto-centric, it was still something else than "big hand" fantasizing. She is growing to be the leader the Hyuuga needs and how to showcase it if not by protecting the Hero of the Leaf? Her village and the one the Hyuugas sought to protect? If Naruto is okay, the village is ok and the Hyuugas are doing their jobs. Nothing to worry about, people.

Wasnt Sakura was about to die at Sasuke's hands because of Naruto?

It's not complete ofc but it's a parallel for NaruSaku NaruSasu and SasuSaku.


I'm not worried she's growing outside of Naruto at least but srsly offpanel development is so bad and the reasons are so dull.
But it's getting weird latelly.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 08 May 2013 - 09:19 AM.

No.

WHAT????

Erm.... the rin decided to die by the hands of the one she loves is clearly foreshadowing for a sasuke about to kill naruto scenario..

Yet if you think about healing naruto may just be the only usefull thing to do in their situation. If the juubi repeats the attack i dont see the alliance managing to do something. either madara attacks now but i see hashirama repelling the attack or something along those lines

What?
The difference is that Sakura wanst looking to die different than Rin who looked for it, but she was going to die att he hands of the guy she loved, and Sakura was going to die at the hands of the guy that she loved.
The only thing that is foreshadowing the scenario that you pointed out is the Obito/Kakashi battle.


Looks like Madara is going elsewhere which can tells me that Taka/Kages are going to fight on a distant place from the battlefield.

if that the case than it more like kakarin=sasusaku rather than obirin=sasusaku

Yeah my bad choice of words.

I think she still loved Kakashi after being rejected by him to not make Obito the "second best" i think.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 08 May 2013 - 09:33 AM.

well because obito presumely dead, so i think it still valid for rin to "loved" him. afterall in this manga someone love didn't disappear offpanel.

oh if there any pairing who become parallel of obirin than that pairing will become true pairing until this manga end.

i have a feeling that romance become really important at this late of manga.

Edited by rocci, 08 May 2013 - 09:38 AM.

I just can't shake the feeling that we'll see more on Kakashi's side regarding Rin.

I can't get out of my mind that shocked look he had when Obito said Rin died at the hands of who she loved. And then Kakashi starts having that random flashback about Rin telling him to kill her.

I just get the feeling that flashback is going to continue for some reason.

Edited by redragon88, 08 May 2013 - 09:57 AM.