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Naruto 619
Started by Fenris, Feb 05 2013 07:41 AM
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 02:07 PM
Actually, I just realised, with the Uchiha love thing... Obito activated the Mangekyou when he lost Rin... But, we already knew he loved her, and Sasuke only ever showed a family-type love, which is what is mentioned specifically in this chapter. So it's whatever.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 02:09 PM
QUOTE (Inferno180 @ Feb 5 2013, 09:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Actually I just looked Mito Uzumaki up and it said her personality was "Very Calm and Collected with a dignfiyed air about her" she had a strong sense of duty towards her husband and the village.
So until otherwise, we know she was collected, stern, and devoted. She behaved more like a noble than her Husband thats for sure.
It is possible Kishi could troll us again and make Mito like Hinata in terms of attitude but again he could also do it like Sakura.
In some other sense he could have made Kushina shy and lack self esteem but he chose to build Kushina's personality and even notable childhood events like Sakura off of well Sakura.
The main difference is, the whole Sakura=Kushina thing works because well the personality, looks, and parallel childhood are definite, it does not mean anything canon wise but it can support an idea of a possible relation between Naruto and Sakura. It could mean nothing in the end but for now, it supports the idea.
We hardly know Kushina yet with the info we have, practically 90% of any info with her could be matched up with Sakura. Mito we have practially nothing about, unless this changes it could be for Sakura, Hinata, or rather anyone or no one at all. I'm rather okay leaving Mito out, we know who she was and her role, she is a background character, I mean yes Hashirama is important to the backstory but we know more about him from other characters rather than him himself. Mito could be unrelated in fact to everyone and just be her own character. All we can do is wait, but we can sepculate, if Hashirama is laid back like Naruto, it does not hurt to imagine that Mito could have been like Sakura with an attitude, we just need to wait until and if we see. Thats why we speculate, to predict and imagine, not rush to say confirmed or canon.
So until otherwise, we know she was collected, stern, and devoted. She behaved more like a noble than her Husband thats for sure.
It is possible Kishi could troll us again and make Mito like Hinata in terms of attitude but again he could also do it like Sakura.
In some other sense he could have made Kushina shy and lack self esteem but he chose to build Kushina's personality and even notable childhood events like Sakura off of well Sakura.
The main difference is, the whole Sakura=Kushina thing works because well the personality, looks, and parallel childhood are definite, it does not mean anything canon wise but it can support an idea of a possible relation between Naruto and Sakura. It could mean nothing in the end but for now, it supports the idea.
We hardly know Kushina yet with the info we have, practically 90% of any info with her could be matched up with Sakura. Mito we have practially nothing about, unless this changes it could be for Sakura, Hinata, or rather anyone or no one at all. I'm rather okay leaving Mito out, we know who she was and her role, she is a background character, I mean yes Hashirama is important to the backstory but we know more about him from other characters rather than him himself. Mito could be unrelated in fact to everyone and just be her own character. All we can do is wait, but we can sepculate, if Hashirama is laid back like Naruto, it does not hurt to imagine that Mito could have been like Sakura with an attitude, we just need to wait until and if we see. Thats why we speculate, to predict and imagine, not rush to say confirmed or canon.
You know I never even paid any mind to this stuff until you guys start talking more on more about it.
From all the stories I ever read, any character who acts a little goofy always have an tsundere who tries to keep him in line or get mad of there silly comments.
After seeing Hashirama today I really doubt that if we get to see Mito, again if we get to see Mito she will have Hinata personality, I honestly doesn't believe Kishi will ever make another character like Hinata. Hinata is not the shy funny girl, she is more of a shy weird type.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 02:12 PM
QUOTE (Inferno180 @ Feb 5 2013, 02:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Actually I just looked Mito Uzumaki up and it said her personality was "Very Calm and Collected with a dignfiyed air about her" she had a strong sense of duty towards her husband and the village.
So until otherwise, we know she was collected, stern, and devoted. She behaved more like a noble than her Husband thats for sure.
It is possible Kishi could troll us again and make Mito like Hinata in terms of attitude but again he could also do it like Sakura.
In some other sense he could have made Kushina shy and lack self esteem but he chose to build Kushina's personality and even notable childhood events like Sakura off of well Sakura.
The main difference is, the whole Sakura=Kushina thing works because well the personality, looks, and parallel childhood are definite, it does not mean anything canon wise but it can support an idea of a possible relation between Naruto and Sakura. It could mean nothing in the end but for now, it supports the idea.
We hardly know Kushina yet with the info we have, practically 90% of any info with her could be matched up with Sakura. Mito we have practially nothing about, unless this changes it could be for Sakura, Hinata, or rather anyone or no one at all. I'm rather okay leaving Mito out, we know who she was and her role, she is a background character, I mean yes Hashirama is important to the backstory but we know more about him from other characters rather than him himself. Mito could be unrelated in fact to everyone and just be her own character. All we can do is wait, but we can sepculate, if Hashirama is laid back like Naruto, it does not hurt to imagine that Mito could have been like Sakura with an attitude, we just need to wait until and if we see. Thats why we speculate, to predict and imagine, not rush to say confirmed or canon.
So until otherwise, we know she was collected, stern, and devoted. She behaved more like a noble than her Husband thats for sure.
It is possible Kishi could troll us again and make Mito like Hinata in terms of attitude but again he could also do it like Sakura.
In some other sense he could have made Kushina shy and lack self esteem but he chose to build Kushina's personality and even notable childhood events like Sakura off of well Sakura.
The main difference is, the whole Sakura=Kushina thing works because well the personality, looks, and parallel childhood are definite, it does not mean anything canon wise but it can support an idea of a possible relation between Naruto and Sakura. It could mean nothing in the end but for now, it supports the idea.
We hardly know Kushina yet with the info we have, practically 90% of any info with her could be matched up with Sakura. Mito we have practially nothing about, unless this changes it could be for Sakura, Hinata, or rather anyone or no one at all. I'm rather okay leaving Mito out, we know who she was and her role, she is a background character, I mean yes Hashirama is important to the backstory but we know more about him from other characters rather than him himself. Mito could be unrelated in fact to everyone and just be her own character. All we can do is wait, but we can sepculate, if Hashirama is laid back like Naruto, it does not hurt to imagine that Mito could have been like Sakura with an attitude, we just need to wait until and if we see. Thats why we speculate, to predict and imagine, not rush to say confirmed or canon.
Well... Kushina said in chapter 500 that the Uzumaki clan was a clan with a quick-tempered temperament... Mito was an Uzumaki, so it makes more sense if Mito was an irascible woman since he should be rude like clan uzumaki.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 02:12 PM
QUOTE (Codus N @ Feb 5 2013, 09:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The problem is, with how Itachi asked Naruto personally to deal with Sasuke and stop his madness, the scenario in the future seems to be otherwise what you stated. I mean, seriously, all those years of development scrapped to the trash bin?? (thanks to Itachi, nonetheless) that's just as bad as NH becoming canon. So I'm hoping we still have a consistent ax-crazy Sasuke after this.
I also agree with you on Hashirama. I was like "huh?? this is what the biggest Uchiha douchebag fears??"
BTW, I just had a thought on what a Hashirama-Madara meeting would look like now
Madara: Hashirama my BROOOOOOTHERRRRR!!! (cookie for those who gets the reference) look!! (flashes chest) I always loved you!! I loved you so much I couldn't bear to have you away from me so I decided to keep a part of you forever!!! forever and ever close to my heart *bishie sparkles*
Hashirama: WHAT THE HELL!!?? NO!! STAY AWAY FROM ME YOU PSYCHOPATHIC CREEP!!! STAY BACK!!!
Tobirama: I TOLD you he always wanted to rape you when you were sleeping!! but noooo..... you NEVER LISTEN.
I also agree with you on Hashirama. I was like "huh?? this is what the biggest Uchiha douchebag fears??"
BTW, I just had a thought on what a Hashirama-Madara meeting would look like now
Madara: Hashirama my BROOOOOOTHERRRRR!!! (cookie for those who gets the reference) look!! (flashes chest) I always loved you!! I loved you so much I couldn't bear to have you away from me so I decided to keep a part of you forever!!! forever and ever close to my heart *bishie sparkles*
Hashirama: WHAT THE HELL!!?? NO!! STAY AWAY FROM ME YOU PSYCHOPATHIC CREEP!!! STAY BACK!!!
Tobirama: I TOLD you he always wanted to rape you when you were sleeping!! but noooo..... you NEVER LISTEN.
By no means will Sasuke be a "good guy" when he and Naruto face each other, but he's not going to be "I SHALL FINISH THE MOONS EYE PLAN AND MAKE EVERYTHING PERFECT" either. I imagine that battle being the final "Get yourself together, idiot Sasuke" type of thing.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 02:12 PM
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ok thanks for the response
that's because someone from Naruto Forum that said this manga is predictable and he said that ns will happen. i don't know if he just troll or not but he said that too about tobi is obito. oh btw the group didn't know that tobi is obito but how did kabuto know him?
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no wonder he mad to the uzumaki clan. because his crush have been take by mito.
madara : Hasii why u choose her
ok thanks for the response
that's because someone from Naruto Forum that said this manga is predictable and he said that ns will happen. i don't know if he just troll or not but he said that too about tobi is obito. oh btw the group didn't know that tobi is obito but how did kabuto know him?
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no wonder he mad to the uzumaki clan. because his crush have been take by mito.
madara : Hasii why u choose her
Edited by rocci, 05 February 2013 - 02:18 PM.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 02:25 PM
Well we have seen Sakura calm and collected in different situations as well we have seen her having a sense of not necessarily duty towards Naruto but you get me... So the only thing that will add-up would be the quite Tsundere-ish personality that would set to another parallel. Lol
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 02:26 PM
QUOTE (Don-kun @ Feb 5 2013, 01:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It not about what you cannot see happening, Naruto has no knowledge about anything Sasuke doesn't know apart from the Tobi incident something that Sasuke will be sure to learn about after Minato explanation.
Tell me what can Naruto offer Sasuke for a change of mind if by the end of the day Sasuke will have 10 times more knowledge about the past events?
Seriously what can he offer Sasuke when Sasuke have a lot more knowledge about the village history?
Kishimoto made it very clear by giving Sasuke the bad news from the start, the 1st will be all about love and Madara , 3rd will tell him know about what he already know and the 4th about Naruto's unfortunate event and Tobi being the main reason of why this is currently happening.
Everything is pointing towards the bad guys, tell me why would he still desire to fight Naruto.
Trust me I would love to see an epic evil vs good fight between Naruto and Sasuke, but with all the knowledge Kishi is giving his dear Sasuke-kun is hard to picture that fight.
Tell me what can Naruto offer Sasuke for a change of mind if by the end of the day Sasuke will have 10 times more knowledge about the past events?
Seriously what can he offer Sasuke when Sasuke have a lot more knowledge about the village history?
Kishimoto made it very clear by giving Sasuke the bad news from the start, the 1st will be all about love and Madara , 3rd will tell him know about what he already know and the 4th about Naruto's unfortunate event and Tobi being the main reason of why this is currently happening.
Everything is pointing towards the bad guys, tell me why would he still desire to fight Naruto.
Trust me I would love to see an epic evil vs good fight between Naruto and Sasuke, but with all the knowledge Kishi is giving his dear Sasuke-kun is hard to picture that fight.
WHy Itachi said with 100% that Naruto was going to be the one to change him.
Or do you prefer a last villain with "i'll destroy the village" just because of revenge, Sasuke is the Madara 2.0 it was foreshadowed so many times thoughout this manga, even Kyuubi said that wen Naruto met Sasuke on the shippuuden.
For me a prefer to Sasuke dying so all the Senju/Uchiha stuff that only bring chaos to the world ends.
Edited by narusaku4ver, 05 February 2013 - 02:28 PM.
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QUOTE (tricksie @ Feb 5 2013, 03:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Alright. My opinions are always different. But I will share them anyway.
As lord287 posted on the first page, sometimes the manga really sounds like a fanfiction. First the Hinata holding-hands chapter, and now this powered by love crap.
Seriously? This is sounding…lame…. I know some people will really like this chapter. But I am just so surprised that it was spelled out so specifically for readers, instead of letting them/us discover it through oblique references and then subsequent actions.
I don't know about anyone else, but I was really hoping we'd get some new information on Itachi. I had never once thought that Tobi/Danzo was telling Sasuke the complete truth (as far as they knew it). But I guess they were…. Must have been the first time in both their lives. Lucky Sasuke.
So I'm disappointed that it's just love. Not some special jutsu, or hidden history. Just love.
All of this buildup. Resurrecting bodies and going to crumbling temples and pulling souls out of death god's bellies…. And the big reveal is…love. Something as vast and amorphous as that.
What a gimmick and cop out. Because now, no matter how evil the act by an Uchiha, it was all rooted in the depth of their love. There is no more evil. It is just distorted love.
And this chapter reinforces the fact that Itachi has already saved Sasuke. By the power of love. ….So um…what exactly is Naruto's purpose again?
No seriously. Because this may be some interesting backstory on the Uchihas and a handy explanation of the sharingan…but where does this leave Naruto? How does he save Sasuke, who can't love without going crazy?
And I know I say this a lot, but I still think it's true. The manga may be named Naruto, but the story is about Sasuke. This is his hero's journey. Even to the point that Sasuke is going to Naruto's old clan grounds and speaking to his dead father. (Wouldn't Naruto have loved to do that instead?) Naruto is the main hero, but he is a reactionary one. He is not journeying to find the truth. He is caught in the ebb and flow of Sasuke's actions. That's his whole motivation. Again…this is Sasuke's story.
And this chapter really, really, really lays the groundwork for the return of Sasu/Saku. And probably a whiff of Sasu/Karin too. Something will happen that will give the appearance of SS. Before, Sasuke has never had a reason. But now he does — instant powerup of some kind. And it makes sense it light of Hinata's chapter 615.
NH gets a boost, then SS. They are balanced, and neither coming out of the complete blue. So get ready. Sasuke's going to save her somehow, giving the appearance of love or partiality (even though his love is in team-sense only). But something's going to happen.
And the parallels…. Ugh. Kishimoto's parallels are beginning to feel more like funhouse mirrors than actual connections that add to the structure of the story.
However, the reactions of the Kages was priceless. And it's interesting to see Hashirama and Tobirama were very much like Sarutobi and Danzo. Tobirama's principles are very militaristic, just like the founding principles of Root.
(Which is another reason why the love crap is so ridiculous. These are supposed to hardened ninjas? No-nonsense Killers? None of these men should believe in the power of "wub…trwoo wub…." And Sasuke's group shouldn't accept it as an answer. For a true ninja, this love nonsense could easily be a trap. And if those Kages were worth their salt, they would be already devising ways to help their village mates, not giving Sasuke and his band the keys to the kingdom.)
I almost wonder if they haven't gotten some new writers or something. The manga just feels so different lately. Especially when looking back over older chapters. Very scattered and well…fanfiction-like. And this has nothing to do with the recent NS/NH/SS or Sasuke's prominence in this chapter. Just feels like the storyline is tipping toward lot of flash, but not a lot of substance.
There are still some interesting things in the chapter…and some moments of genuine Kishimoto goodness. (The Kages, Suigetsu.) I didn't dwell on those to balance out my criticism, but there were definitely interesting moments. But I'm still left scratching me head about a lot of the direction lately. And this chapter does not help clear that up.
Most of all, I'm really bummed that all the set up of Sasuke's quest for the truth was for a gimmick. I was hoping for some interesting, surprising plot twist. But no. It's all about love. Ho-hum….
As lord287 posted on the first page, sometimes the manga really sounds like a fanfiction. First the Hinata holding-hands chapter, and now this powered by love crap.
Seriously? This is sounding…lame…. I know some people will really like this chapter. But I am just so surprised that it was spelled out so specifically for readers, instead of letting them/us discover it through oblique references and then subsequent actions.
I don't know about anyone else, but I was really hoping we'd get some new information on Itachi. I had never once thought that Tobi/Danzo was telling Sasuke the complete truth (as far as they knew it). But I guess they were…. Must have been the first time in both their lives. Lucky Sasuke.
So I'm disappointed that it's just love. Not some special jutsu, or hidden history. Just love.
All of this buildup. Resurrecting bodies and going to crumbling temples and pulling souls out of death god's bellies…. And the big reveal is…love. Something as vast and amorphous as that.
What a gimmick and cop out. Because now, no matter how evil the act by an Uchiha, it was all rooted in the depth of their love. There is no more evil. It is just distorted love.
And this chapter reinforces the fact that Itachi has already saved Sasuke. By the power of love. ….So um…what exactly is Naruto's purpose again?
No seriously. Because this may be some interesting backstory on the Uchihas and a handy explanation of the sharingan…but where does this leave Naruto? How does he save Sasuke, who can't love without going crazy?
And I know I say this a lot, but I still think it's true. The manga may be named Naruto, but the story is about Sasuke. This is his hero's journey. Even to the point that Sasuke is going to Naruto's old clan grounds and speaking to his dead father. (Wouldn't Naruto have loved to do that instead?) Naruto is the main hero, but he is a reactionary one. He is not journeying to find the truth. He is caught in the ebb and flow of Sasuke's actions. That's his whole motivation. Again…this is Sasuke's story.
And this chapter really, really, really lays the groundwork for the return of Sasu/Saku. And probably a whiff of Sasu/Karin too. Something will happen that will give the appearance of SS. Before, Sasuke has never had a reason. But now he does — instant powerup of some kind. And it makes sense it light of Hinata's chapter 615.
NH gets a boost, then SS. They are balanced, and neither coming out of the complete blue. So get ready. Sasuke's going to save her somehow, giving the appearance of love or partiality (even though his love is in team-sense only). But something's going to happen.
And the parallels…. Ugh. Kishimoto's parallels are beginning to feel more like funhouse mirrors than actual connections that add to the structure of the story.
However, the reactions of the Kages was priceless. And it's interesting to see Hashirama and Tobirama were very much like Sarutobi and Danzo. Tobirama's principles are very militaristic, just like the founding principles of Root.
(Which is another reason why the love crap is so ridiculous. These are supposed to hardened ninjas? No-nonsense Killers? None of these men should believe in the power of "wub…trwoo wub…." And Sasuke's group shouldn't accept it as an answer. For a true ninja, this love nonsense could easily be a trap. And if those Kages were worth their salt, they would be already devising ways to help their village mates, not giving Sasuke and his band the keys to the kingdom.)
I almost wonder if they haven't gotten some new writers or something. The manga just feels so different lately. Especially when looking back over older chapters. Very scattered and well…fanfiction-like. And this has nothing to do with the recent NS/NH/SS or Sasuke's prominence in this chapter. Just feels like the storyline is tipping toward lot of flash, but not a lot of substance.
There are still some interesting things in the chapter…and some moments of genuine Kishimoto goodness. (The Kages, Suigetsu.) I didn't dwell on those to balance out my criticism, but there were definitely interesting moments. But I'm still left scratching me head about a lot of the direction lately. And this chapter does not help clear that up.
Most of all, I'm really bummed that all the set up of Sasuke's quest for the truth was for a gimmick. I was hoping for some interesting, surprising plot twist. But no. It's all about love. Ho-hum….
I know your opinions always differs but think for a time how this can give a boost to SS? it's more Narusasu.
the boost would be a flashback with Sakura only then i would say that SS willl have a chance and this "itachi saved Sasuke" Itachi made Sasuke open his eyes to not act because of revenge itself, he siad i want to understand Itachi, he may have a different opinion on this matter, if Sasuke turns good then Kishimoto is lying because the last battle with be Naruto vs Sasuke.
It's shown that Sasuke hates the village and wants to destroy it, it didnt change.
About the storyline i already predicted it, Kishimoto using all the characters and even the characters he could not use for the sake of more drama and to make the story "interesting" for this he went for asspulls and fanservices to a point that he's abusing of it.
I have any expectations for this and as for NS it will be canon but it will not happen with the potential it had before.
Edited by narusaku4ver, 05 February 2013 - 03:00 PM.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 03:00 PM
QUOTE (tricksie @ Feb 5 2013, 03:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hmmmm.... --Click here to view--
Can you now tell me how this chapter changed the possibility of SS? Because of sasukes love for his brother and clan hes mad and evil. So now tell me what exactly changes the view on SS there? I think we should stop relating every little moment to any pairing.
I also dont get what problem some people have with the "love" thing in this chapter. Why is that bad writing? Its all logical explained and doesnt damage the story.
All i can say is haters gonna hate.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 03:04 PM
QUOTE (PhenixElite @ Feb 5 2013, 04:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Can you now tell me how this chapter changed the possibility of SS? Because of sasukes love for his brother and clan hes mad and evil. So now tell me what exactly changes the view on SS there? I think we should stop relating every little moment to any pairing.
I also dont get what problem some people have with the "love" thing in this chapter. Why is that bad writing? Its all logical explained and doesnt damage the story.
All i can say is haters gonna hate.
I also dont get what problem some people have with the "love" thing in this chapter. Why is that bad writing? Its all logical explained and doesnt damage the story.
All i can say is haters gonna hate.
This, i forgot how last chapter there were people "omg Minato will meet Sakura", and when something called "love" is bring up on this chapter always people think of Sakura i dont know where this resolution comes from, Sasuke only values two people, Itachi and Naruto.
Hashirama appeared and then "omg i want to see mito-sama".
But tricksie is wrong when it comes to SS but it's right on a certain point of view Naruto wants to erradicate hatred but hatred exists because of love so Naruto will destroy love too?
It's a mess.
The rest i always knew Sasuke being seemed as a victim all the time, he almost killed Sakura, so Sasuke is the victim, he tried to kill Naruto so he's the victim, bring a lot of pain to both but Sasuke is the victim, it already get annoying.
I have no expectations but's the story is turning into a pile of trash.
Edited by narusaku4ver, 05 February 2013 - 03:07 PM.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 03:08 PM
so basically Uchiha is the clan of butthurt.
oh wait we knew that already.
oh wait we knew that already.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 03:08 PM
QUOTE (pharix @ Feb 5 2013, 04:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
so basically Uchiha is the clan of butthurt.
oh wait we knew that already.
oh wait we knew that already.
Clan of emos.
Edited by narusaku4ver, 05 February 2013 - 03:09 PM.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 03:11 PM
This chapter was interesting, even though the science doesn't seem to be very believable. I mean, why is it that so many other Uchiha - who were married - didn't lose their sanity? And is it the narusasu shipper's turn to celebrate now?
On a side note, am I the only one who thought Sasuke looked really strange in this chapter? The art was just... off.
On a side note, am I the only one who thought Sasuke looked really strange in this chapter? The art was just... off.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 03:13 PM
QUOTE (narusaku4ver @ Feb 5 2013, 04:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This, i forgot how last chapter there were people "omg Minato will meet Sakura", and when something called "love" is bring up on this chapter always people think of Sakura i dont know where this resolution comes from, Sasuke only values two people, Itachi and Naruto.
Hashirama appeared and then "omg i want to see mito-sama".
But tricksie is wrong when it comes to SS but it's right on a certain point of view Naruto wants to erradicate hatred but hatred exists because of love so Naruto will destroy love too?
It's a mess.
The rest i always knew Sasuke being seemed as a victim all the time, he almost killed Sakura, so Sasuke is the victim, he tried to kill Naruto so he's the victim, bring a lot of pain to both but Sasuke is the victim, it already get annoying.
I have no expectations but's the story is turning into a pile of trash.
Hashirama appeared and then "omg i want to see mito-sama".
But tricksie is wrong when it comes to SS but it's right on a certain point of view Naruto wants to erradicate hatred but hatred exists because of love so Naruto will destroy love too?
It's a mess.
The rest i always knew Sasuke being seemed as a victim all the time, he almost killed Sakura, so Sasuke is the victim, he tried to kill Naruto so he's the victim, bring a lot of pain to both but Sasuke is the victim, it already get annoying.
I have no expectations but's the story is turning into a pile of trash.
The thought of minato meeting sakura is at least a likely possibiltiy since something like that already happened, so it has a good possibiltiy to happen. But relating SS to sasukes moment right now is out of nowhere, its just a random thought and it has nothing to back this up. This is just twisting the told story to something pairing related.
To your second part of the post, in my opinion thats just overthinking things too much.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 03:13 PM
Actually, this chapter was definitely a bit of a surprise for me.
I did realize early on that it was love (obsessive love) that made the Uchiha stronger. But I had believed that their core ideals still remains revolved around power. So it was a bit of a shocker to me when Tobirama said what he said.
To explain it simply, it wasn't love (and friendship per MS translation) that was their ideals, but it was a means of them getting stronger. Power and Jutsu, however, was their belief of the truth surrounding the world.
Do you guys understand??
But still, the way I see it, Power and Jutsu still stands as their core ideals as it is their belief regarding the truths of the world. While love and friendship is their means to power.
I did realize early on that it was love (obsessive love) that made the Uchiha stronger. But I had believed that their core ideals still remains revolved around power. So it was a bit of a shocker to me when Tobirama said what he said.
To explain it simply, it wasn't love (and friendship per MS translation) that was their ideals, but it was a means of them getting stronger. Power and Jutsu, however, was their belief of the truth surrounding the world.
Do you guys understand??
But still, the way I see it, Power and Jutsu still stands as their core ideals as it is their belief regarding the truths of the world. While love and friendship is their means to power.
The family that couldn't be.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 03:15 PM
QUOTE (Phantom_999 @ Feb 5 2013, 04:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well that explained SO MUCH!!! 
So the Uchiha are the living embodiment of "Love makes you Cuckoo" 
Is this an Othello reference? 
So the Uchiha are the living embodiment of "Love makes you Cuckoo" Is this an Othello reference? I was thinking of the Vulcans in Star Trek. They were more passionate and savage than humans, but bottled up their emotions to stop it from destroying them. And they still have times (like Pon Farr) when those emotions overwhelm reason and cause a type of madness.
Something else to consider is that Tobirama is giving the explanation, so we can't take this as 100% true. We know that he thinks ill of the Uchiha. While he definitely knows more than the others (and the reader), his explanation is likely biased by his own hatred.
QUOTE (Don-kun @ Feb 5 2013, 06:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Does anyone have new considerations for final villain after this week?
I think Sasuke's chances dropped a lot, while Madara's rose.
Does anyone have new considerations for final villain after this week?
I think Sasuke's chances dropped a lot, while Madara's rose.
I'm definitely reconsidering after this chapter. I was certain Sasuke was going to be the last villain. That might still happen, but now it is possible that he will try to break the "chain of hatred" that curses the Uchiha clan. (Somewhat related to Naruto's goal for shinobi in general.) He'd still have to do *a lot* more than this to redeem his past actions, but it is no longer certain that he will face a violent death.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 03:17 PM
Why I've a vague feeling that Sasuke, after this, will become the final villain? He get from the third that the truth about Itachi said by Tobi and Danzo was true. He was angry in front of Tobirama with his way of thinking abotu Sasuke (awakening the MS represent his angry). Now he's gonna to hear the story about Konoha from Hahsirama and then something from the fourth (probably about Kyuubi's incident of 16 years ago. Sasuke believe it was an incident because Tobi told so.)
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 03:17 PM
QUOTE (Nefertieh @ Feb 5 2013, 04:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This chapter was interesting, even though the science doesn't seem to be very believable. I mean, why is it that so many other Uchiha - who were married - didn't lose their sanity? And is it the narusasu shipper's turn to celebrate now?
On a side note, am I the only one who thought Sasuke looked really strange in this chapter? The art was just... off.
On a side note, am I the only one who thought Sasuke looked really strange in this chapter? The art was just... off.
Other uchias didnt loose their sanity because they didnt loose their loved ones. Its not that every uchia who loved someone went crazy.
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 03:19 PM
QUOTE (narusaku4ver @ Feb 5 2013, 07:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This, i forgot how last chapter there were people "omg Minato will meet Sakura", and when something called "love" is bring up on this chapter always people think of Sakura i dont know where this resolution comes from, Sasuke only values two people, Itachi and Naruto.
Hashirama appeared and then "omg i want to see mito-sama".
But tricksie is wrong when it comes to SS but it's right on a certain point of view Naruto wants to erradicate hatred but hatred exists because of love so Naruto will destroy love too?
It's a mess.
The rest i always knew Sasuke being seemed as a victim all the time, he almost killed Sakura, so Sasuke is the victim, he tried to kill Naruto so he's the victim, bring a lot of pain to both but Sasuke is the victim, it already get annoying.
I have no expectations but's the story is turning into a pile of trash.
Hashirama appeared and then "omg i want to see mito-sama".
But tricksie is wrong when it comes to SS but it's right on a certain point of view Naruto wants to erradicate hatred but hatred exists because of love so Naruto will destroy love too?
It's a mess.
The rest i always knew Sasuke being seemed as a victim all the time, he almost killed Sakura, so Sasuke is the victim, he tried to kill Naruto so he's the victim, bring a lot of pain to both but Sasuke is the victim, it already get annoying.
I have no expectations but's the story is turning into a pile of trash.
This^ Kishi should really change the name of his manga to Sasuke.
Edited by Gravenimage, 05 February 2013 - 03:20 PM.
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