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#101 Poison_In_Your_Coffee

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 02:11 AM

QUOTE (Chatte @ Jan 11 2013, 02:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I love how everyone was "hell with the parallels, they mean nothing!" and now everyone is this is paralleling this, OMG, Hinata is so alike Kushina.
Really, some people's ways of doing stuff, to say it nice, it's so...I don't know exactly how I should describe it without anyone being offended.
But meh, that's just me.

Parallels alone mean nothing. After all, that is just pointing out certain character is like some other character and so on. What is that similarity alone supposed to mean? NS has more to it than parallels. If Sakura and Naruto weren't friends and Naruto was never in love with Sakura and Sakura never in love with him, any parallels to any pairing would be meaningless. Same with Hinata and NH.

You (general you) keep arguing that Hinata is nothing like Kushina. What I am pointing out is that Hinata and Kushina both considered Naruto more important than their own lives. So it is really not true that Hinata and Kushina are nothing alike, is it? They did both love Naruto enough to die to protect him.

Edited by Poison_In_Your_Coffee, 11 January 2013 - 02:17 AM.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 02:22 AM

QUOTE (Poison_In_Your_Coffee @ Jan 11 2013, 03:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Parallels alone mean nothing. After all, that is just pointing out certain character is like some other character and so on. What is that similarity alone supposed to mean? NS has more to it than parallels. If Sakura and Naruto weren't friends and Naruto was never in love with Sakura and Sakura never in love with him, any parallels to any pairing would be meaningless. Same with Hinata and NH.

You (general you) keep arguing that Hinata is nothing like Kushina. What I am pointing out is that Hinata and Kushina both considered Naruto more important than their own lives. So it is really not true that Hinata and Kushina are nothing alike, is it? They did both love Naruto enough to die to protect him.


So did other characters. It is not exclusive for only her and Kushina. Whereas the similarity in personality with Sakura is only for Kushina and Sakura, that's the difference.
Hinata is not the only one who considered Naruto's life more important than her own.
Sakura did that long before, I said it.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 02:33 AM

QUOTE (Chatte @ Jan 11 2013, 02:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So did other characters. It is not exclusive for only her and Kushina. Whereas the similarity in personality with Sakura is only for Kushina and Sakura, that's the difference.
Hinata is not the only one who considered Naruto's life more important than her own.
Sakura did that long before, I said it.

The only point is that Hinata is similar to Kushina because they both value Naruto more than their lives. This does not change because other people are like Kushina, too. Hinata now has at least that one similarity with Kushina, whether people like that or not. Sakura is still winning because she has more similarities to Kushina. So I really don't understand why anyone would want to deny that one similarity between H & K.

Edited by Poison_In_Your_Coffee, 11 January 2013 - 02:34 AM.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 02:52 AM

QUOTE (Poison_In_Your_Coffee @ Jan 11 2013, 02:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The only point is that Hinata is similar to Kushina because they both value Naruto more than their lives. This does not change because other people are like Kushina, too. Hinata now has at least that one similarity with Kushina, whether people like that or not. Sakura is still winning because she has more similarities to Kushina. So I really don't understand why anyone would want to deny that one similarity between H & K.

No one is denying it, I think you didn't get the thing. What Hinata has similar to Kushina, other characters have, as well. There's nothing "special" about it, how you'd say.
However, comparing Kushina/Sakura, they do have that something special. The exclusiveness I've been telling you about.

Edited by Chatte, 11 January 2013 - 02:53 AM.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 03:03 AM

QUOTE (Chatte @ Jan 11 2013, 03:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No one is denying it, I think you didn't get the thing. What Hinata has similar to Kushina, other characters have, as well. There's nothing "special" about it, how you'd say.
However, comparing Kushina/Sakura, they do have that something special. The exclusiveness I've been telling you about.

Well, I never said that Hinata was somehow special in her resemblance to Kushina; just that there was that one case where they could be compared. Like I have said, I don't think Hinata is all that like Kushina. They have certain similarity but they are far from identical. I personally don't think Hinata not being very much like Kushina will stop NH from happening, but who knows?
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Posted 12 January 2013 - 05:08 AM

the only thing they have in common is the femininely long hair. rolleyes.gif

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 05:24 AM

Man, I don't even see Neji jumping in to save Naru and Hina as indicating he's similar to Minato, or that it implies a NejiHina pairing....


It's just a couple of friends jumping in to save their friends.... Any good friend and family will do that to their loved ones.....

Mina and Kushi jumping in to save Naruto is what any good parents will do to save their child, pair of Papa Wolf and Mama Bear that they are....

All of these parallelograms are getting a bit over-thought, ain't it?

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 02:56 PM

QUOTE (shadow_Uzumaki @ Jan 12 2013, 08:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Man, I don't even see Neji jumping in to save Naru and Hina as indicating he's similar to Minato, or that it implies a NejiHina pairing....


It's just a couple of friends jumping in to save their friends.... Any good friend and family will do that to their loved ones.....

Mina and Kushi jumping in to save Naruto is what any good parents will do to save their child, pair of Papa Wolf and Mama Bear that they are....

All of these parallelograms are getting a bit over-thought, ain't it?

Agree. There's nothing parallel in ch.615. Neji and Hinata just jumped in front of Naruto to save him. They're just protecting their friend.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 04:30 PM

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Well, it all depends on the manga. Unfortunately for others, the flow really goes to NS in many ways. If you want to negate, you must rewrite history to make it work. For example, remove the whole K4 incident with Sakura and delete strong hint of Sakura having romantic feelings for Naruto. Those are one of the many examples, but to really make it work to your favor, rewrite Naruto's character. He can be a quitter, he can have more than one feelings, and well this is optional, don't have feelings for Sakura in the beginning. Do that and the manga can avoid bad writing. Sure, it's no longer the manga we all read, but at least something good come out of it. Right?

It's no wonder one guy said that Naruto falling for Sakura really follows the story. I agree, say whatever you want. To be honest, I'm trying to unbiased, but it's hard when you know that your pairing is the one that flows the story almost perfectly. One option can destroy it: destruction. This is like the game changer, but the consequence is huge. Damage the quality of the manga, lose fans and I believe fans can read well to know something went wrong, and lose reputation for the next manga (if he makes one). Something like that shows it in Bakuman, when a writer trying to make it edgier or at least tone it down, the fans will give a negative response. So yeah, take it or leave it, Sakura and Kushina is just as perfect as one can get.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 04:32 PM

Since we're talking about parallels, let me show you another one...

Their relationships are lot alike.
Naruto didn't saw hinata's love for him until she confess to him.kakashi didn't notice it until rin told him.neji told naruto to protect her as obito told kakashi to protect rin.neji gave his life to save naruto and obito to save kakashi.
hinata loved naruto and rin loved kakashi.guy they love didn't notice them.hinata's personality is like rins.(but i don't think naruto will kill hinata like kakashi killed rin)

Nah, I can't, I just...

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 04:45 PM

QUOTE (Chatte @ Jan 12 2013, 08:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Since we're talking about parallels, let me show you another one...

Their relationships are lot alike.
Naruto didn't saw hinata's love for him until she confess to him.kakashi didn't notice it until rin told him.neji told naruto to protect her as obito told kakashi to protect rin.neji gave his life to save naruto and obito to save kakashi.
hinata loved naruto and rin loved kakashi.guy they love didn't notice them.hinata's personality is like rins.(but i don't think naruto will kill hinata like kakashi killed rin)

Nah, I can't, I just...

Don't you think it's more of Hinata's situation is the same as Rin's had, instead of their personalities cause their personalities aren't the same.

Edited by T XD, 12 January 2013 - 04:46 PM.


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Posted 12 January 2013 - 04:46 PM

QUOTE (Chatte @ Jan 12 2013, 05:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Since we're talking about parallels, let me show you another one...

Their relationships are lot alike.
Naruto didn't saw hinata's love for him until she confess to him.kakashi didn't notice it until rin told him.neji told naruto to protect her as obito told kakashi to protect rin.neji gave his life to save naruto and obito to save kakashi.
hinata loved naruto and rin loved kakashi.guy they love didn't notice them.hinata's personality is like rins.(but i don't think naruto will kill hinata like kakashi killed rin)

Nah, I can't, I just...


Neji never told this to Naruto. Anyway it's a very forced parallel... Hinata and Neji aren't even part of a same team with Naruto.

moreover, Rin and Hinata are different... Rin isn't shy like Hinata... Having a calm personality doesn't means necessarily to be a shy person....

Edited by 六道仙人, 12 January 2013 - 04:48 PM.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 04:46 PM

QUOTE (Poison_In_Your_Coffee @ Jan 11 2013, 02:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Parallels alone mean nothing. After all, that is just pointing out certain character is like some other character and so on. What is that similarity alone supposed to mean? NS has more to it than parallels. If Sakura and Naruto weren't friends and Naruto was never in love with Sakura and Sakura never in love with him, any parallels to any pairing would be meaningless. Same with Hinata and NH.

You (general you) keep arguing that Hinata is nothing like Kushina. What I am pointing out is that Hinata and Kushina both considered Naruto more important than their own lives. So it is really not true that Hinata and Kushina are nothing alike, is it? They did both love Naruto enough to die to protect him.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 04:47 PM

QUOTE (T XD @ Jan 12 2013, 05:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Don't you think it's more of Hinata's situation is the same as Rin's had, instead of their personalities cause their personalities aren't the same.



QUOTE (六道仙人 @ Jan 12 2013, 05:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Neji never told this to Naruto. Anyway it's a very forced parallel... Hinata and Neji aren't even part of a same team with Naruto.


I know guys, but the parallelism and all... like everyone desperately tries to make Hinata be the felame love interest in triangles that are only paralleled with NS.
Some fans really...just...anyway, you get the idea.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 05:08 PM

QUOTE (Chatte @ Jan 12 2013, 05:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I know guys, but the parallelism and all... like everyone desperately tries to make Hinata be the felame love interest in triangles that are only paralleled with NS.
Some fans really...just...anyway, you get the idea.


just leave them alone...

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 05:16 PM

QUOTE (Chatte @ Jan 12 2013, 07:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I know guys, but the parallelism and all... like everyone desperately tries to make Hinata be the felame love interest in triangles that are only paralleled with NS.
Some fans really...just...anyway, you get the idea.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 05:30 PM

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One word, my friend and that word is desperation fu.png

Exactly like what yhe hell??? the second they saw naruto and hinata holding hands, and heck it looked like hinatas hand was broken, no sign of romance not in the least complete and utter failure on EVERY level!! it wasn't intended to be romantic! and you'll see in the next chapter! the second they saw that in 615 they scram cannon buy when we have kishi constantly throwing NS kitten IN OUR FACES THRY REFUSE TO ADMIT THAT NARUSAKY IS ROMANTIC AND CLAIM THAT IT HAS NO CHANCE OF HAPPENING!! AND THAT HINATAS LOVE WILL PREVAIL EVEN THOUGH SHES A sh*tty SIDE CHARACTER THAT APPEARED IN THR MANGA 10 TIMES AT MAX!!! THE LEVEL OF HYPROCISY IS JUST kitten!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! S-H-I-T!!!!! AAAAAUUUUGGGGGHHH bash.gif rawr.gif a_smashy.gif msmack.gif smack.gif th_cussing.gif

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 05:38 PM

QUOTE (Canadian_DJ @ Jan 12 2013, 08:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Exactly like what yhe hell??? the second they saw naruto and hinata holding hands, and heck it looked like hinatas hand was broken, no sign of romance not in the least complete and utter failure on EVERY level!! it wasn't intended to be romantic! and you'll see in the next chapter! the second they saw that in 615 they scram cannon buy when we have kishi constantly throwing NS kitten IN OUR FACES THRY REFUSE TO ADMIT THAT NARUSAKY IS ROMANTIC AND CLAIM THAT IT HAS NO CHANCE OF HAPPENING!! AND THAT HINATAS LOVE WILL PREVAIL EVEN THOUGH SHES A sh*tty SIDE CHARACTER THAT APPEARED IN THR MANGA 10 TIMES AT MAX!!! THE LEVEL OF HYPROCISY IS JUST kitten!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! S-H-I-T!!!!! AAAAAUUUUGGGGGHHH bash.gif rawr.gif a_smashy.gif msmack.gif smack.gif th_cussing.gif

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 05:54 PM

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*giving you a chill pill* XD

*Pants in fury...grabs chill pill and gulps it down* *huff huff* Man...thanks your a life-saver..thats why i friggin hate to think about it...cuz my blood boils...*huff huff* *wipes eyebrows* Myy eyebrows are sweating...i ******* hatw when my eyebrows sweat...that fandom is an utter mess..

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 07:32 PM

QUOTE (Canadian_DJ @ Jan 12 2013, 08:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
*Pants in fury...grabs chill pill and gulps it down* *huff huff* Man...thanks your a life-saver..thats why i friggin hate to think about it...cuz my blood boils...*huff huff* *wipes eyebrows* Myy eyebrows are sweating...i ******* hatw when my eyebrows sweat...that fandom is an utter mess..

*putting the chill pill box near me*... just in case XD




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