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It would make sense though right? I mean, I saw someone else on another forum mention Chojuro was missing too and the only conclusion I could come up with was that sense Neji's got the Byakugan, he must have lead some of them to the Kages. Would make sense considering Kankuro's strong ass bond with Gaara.

Oh well, nothing left to do but sit back and wait to find out...

Chances are that it may get a lot worse before it get better. I just wonder which characters may suffer next.......

I really hope this does happen. It would finally give the 11 the final development they need: taking over from the older generation and protect the future for the next generation.

As for Team 10 not needing this, I disagree. It's true Asuma's death and subsequent resurrection was enough of a development for them, but I feel that their parents' deaths would complete their development as growing leaders, not as ninjas. Remember, Inoichi and Shikaku were basically taking command of the entire army for the Kages, and now the Ino-Shika-Cho will have to step up to the leadership. Not only that, keep in mind they are the respective heirs of their clans. It's a lot for them to take in, but it will make them grow stronger and mature from it. Like Gaara did.

Guy wouldn't make much of a difference, if not for just showing the 8th gate. Hiashi dying is plausible, it would also give resolution to the heir conflict.

Tsunade's death would have the biggest impact, though. Not on just Sakura and Naruto, but also for Kakashi. Kakashi must now decide whether he must face Obito as Hokage, or as his friend.







If you ask me, that would be Hiashi. The previous page had Hiashi scanning the city that got obliterated, so putting in the continuity, it has to be Hiashi.

@Codus N

Asuma dying was enough for the personal growth of Team 10. The death of their parents will make them truly take over as the Ino-Shika-Cho the everyone must look up to. That's what I explained in my previous post, which would be further solidified if Chouza also dies as well.

Team 10 by themselves don't need anymore development, but if more of the Konoha 11 also get the same treatment by having loved ones loose their lives then it will make complete sense to me.

As for the impact of Mighty Gai dying, there's also the fact that he's Kakashi's rival and very close friend so it will hit him as hard as it will hit Lee. Besides, after after so much talk about the 8 gates throughout the series do we really just want to leave it at the 7th. I think Gai dying in a blaze of glory while using the 8th Gate to buy some time for the Alliance would fit perfectly with his character.

Lastly, where are you getting the idea that Kakashi would be the Hokage? That's kinda Naruto's thing. Besides, I think Kakashi already stated he wasn't really fit for that type of role and was relieved that Tsunade recovered by the end of the Summit arc. After all of Naruto's recent talk about how he'll eventually become Hokage it would feel a bit out of place for Kakashi to suddenly take that role when it's not something he even aspires to be.

Although it would be kinda funny to see Obito get pissed off at Kakashi for becoming what Obito wanted to be as a kid. Obito wanting to be talented, be Hokage and have Rin like him, but instead Kakashi gets all of it. Still, for me personally it would be weird for Kakashi to have the Hokage responsibilities placed upon him.

I wouldn't say he doesn't give a kitten about Sakura, she's not a fighter. Her job is to heal those who are wounded

I actually thought it was Hiashi as well, but it's hard to say for sure. Both Hiashi and Hinata have the same haircut from behind.

I didnt see hinata, i wondered where she was, people pointed it out, i still couldn't see hinata, all i saw was a guy with long dark hair. Stop looking for reasons to hate on kishi for hinata fanservice when it probably isnt.

I don't think it's hinata either, looks more like hiashi to me.

Thus the beauty of drawing in a character with flowing black hair. It could easily be Hiashi for continuity's sake. Or it could easily be Hinata by the surprised pose and big wave of hair. You see whatever you want to see.

I'm inclined to think it's both — it's Hiashi for continuity's sake, and it's sliding in some fanservice without actually inserting Hinata. They killed two birds with one stone.

Like I said earlier, as the tesion is building in the manga, they seem to be featuring Sakura and Hinata together. Even this could subtly reinforce that.

So my theory is that as the manga chugs on towards its climax, the shipping tension is slowly being ratcheted up. One panel (like here) doesn't prove it, but more and more Hinata and Sakura's scenes are featured in tandem. One ship gets a big boost, then the other. I'm still rooting for Sakura development, but it will be interesting to see if Hinata's character gets equal shine just to be a foil to Sakura's.

Anyway, I think this image is a bit vague on purpose. They've got to insert some Hinata thing to balance out Sakura. And I think overall it's just being done to ramp up tension since the manga is slowly drawing to its close.

Hinata has a mark on her hair like " IIIIIIII ' white so it's not hinata.

I feel likw its Hiashi since i dont know why hinata should react to an attack on the HQ. Dont forget all she cares about is NARUTO-KUN
But seriously its more likely to be hiashi because he is in the generation of Shikaku and CO.

If that is Hinata (and not Hiashi), then the obvious answer is: this is only Hinata's second form, and that she has a third one.

Dude, Kishimoto's left Naruto's whisker marks off his face before. Anything is possible in this manga.

Oh, I see. I understand now what you said about Team 10.

And you're right about Guy, I forgot how much it would impact Kakashi. Good job pointing it out.

About Kakashi being Hokage, I doubt everyone would just unanimously agree on him as his successor right then and there (Naruto). If there's one thing Naruto hasn't learned, it's learning how to delegate his burdens to the people around him and learning how to trust his subordinates/friends to do their job. As we know, Kurama still needs to recover his chakra (Gyuuki too). That would take a long time, it seems.

If he can place his trust to the alliance soldiers and his friends to buy time for him and Bee to recover, only then I will be satisfied and acknowledge his leadership. If he doesn't take Itachi's lesson to heart, then he clearly isn't ready for the title. Naruto will eventually have to learn he can't protect everyone and there will be people who will die for him. But these people did not die because they had to. They died because they wanted to. For him. That's what being a leader means.

A leader must be prepared to face the fact that there will be failures, but what they can do is do is get over that failure and move on and learn from it. This is the final development for Naruto.

It may go against what he said in the previous chapters and give Obito more ammo to attack him, but if Naruto states that he fully realizes the reality that he can't always protect everybody, but says that he will protect as much as his abilities will allow to, (something like what Ichigo said to Ishida wayyy back). It will show that he will never reject reality like Obito did.

If Kakashi becomes Hokage right in front of Obito, it will be the final twist in the knife as KnS once put it, and that would be great, since it adds more tension between him and Obito. It would also show that he's willing to face Obito fully as his enemy, it will be hard, but he'll be able to show that he'll do what he has to do.

Edited by Codus N, 14 December 2012 - 02:32 PM.

That's Hiashi, look at the previous panel, he was observing the TBB's direction.

OMFG first is a rock now it's to know if it's hiashi or hinata.

It's funny, I never noticed either one. I don't know if I was oblivious to it, or don't care enough to take it as anything more than a smack to the head and a random unknown ninja with long hair. Yeah it could be Hinata or Hiashi, but it could be just nothing. Does it make a difference who it really is?

I want to see what Kishi does. If the head-smack rock thing becomes significant then I will be interested if Kishi brought it up as a critical story element or just a stupid reason to take Sakura out of the picture.

I can understand if Kishi wants to wait for a perfect moment to do something great, but I have to ask when that moment or moments come up is Kishi going to step up? Will he make Sakura become that heroine or will he fall short? Will he keep the promises he says in the interviews.

I want to understand both sides and say that if Kishi is waiting for the perfect moment then I will say the wait is what is causing the wars. The fact that both sides are looking for any hint that they can get only to fall short because Kishi doesn't follow through is nerve racking. If Kishi won't do anything because he is afraid to piss people off then I'd say that Kishi needs to stop dropping "hints" then. Other than that I think the fanbase needs to calm down and we, as the whole fanbase, need to stop reading this manga just for the shipping war.

Edited by James S Cassidy, 14 December 2012 - 07:53 PM.

But that is why it was so effective. No one ever thought he would kill Shikaku/Inoichi after he killed Asuma on Shika and Ino. You never thought Kishi would kill Shika's father after killing his father figure. Everyone thought the HQ was safe. It wasn't for Team 10 to understand death. They went through that. As did Naruto. It was to push them to greater heights.



I don't see him killing Choza. He already did that once and had Choji grieve over him. I see Choza as the one allowed to live and grow old to see the others marry and have kids of their own. And Choji already had his coming of age moment. Yes, so did Shika, but that was years ago in our time and I think Kishi really wants to push him as one of the elite. And to a lesser extent with Ino. As good as Shika and Ino are, they were still overshadowed by their dads in ability. Yes, Shika is a much more important character than his dad, but as long as Shikaku was around, he couldn't be the smartest character in the world and stand next to Hokage Naruto. And Ino could never be the best Yamanaka if Inoichi still lived. Kishi was probably giving Shikaku and Inoichi lots of development during the war knowing that he could cash it in so to speak and elevate Shika and Ino through their deaths. The fact that Kishi also loves torturing Shikamaru and Team 10 angst was the cherry on top. They really are Team Tragedy.

I also don't see Gai dying. I just don't think Kishi has it in him. He could of had Gai die against Kisame and pass his will on to Lee. And perhaps the most important reason why he won't kill Gai. Gai is a major character in the Rock Lee anime and manga. Kishi's assistant writes the Rock Lee Springtime of Youth manga. It would put a bummer on that series if Gai was killed in canon. It's different than the Akatsuki or Orochimaru coming back in that manga. No question that Gai overshadows Rock Lee. But I think Kishi has accepted that those two will forever be intertwined.

Hiashi could very well die. But the problem is that he wasn't as developed as Shikaku and Inoichi were. Kishi gave the latter a good amount of development during this war arc. While he skipped over the Hiashi-Hizashi fight. So Hiashi dying doesn't matter as much. There is really no will for Hiashi to entrust. At best it opens up Hinata or Neji to being the head of the clan.

I just don't think there will be many more name deaths outside of Tsunade, which will benefit both Sakura and Naruto.

Edited by Deej, 15 December 2012 - 06:29 AM.

Agree with this here, but I still do expect Choza to die. The 15th chapter of Ino-Shika-Cho must be closed in order for the 16th chapter to begin. Guy dying is a bit on the fence here. On the one hand, him dying seems a bit cheap since it's highly likely he'll die using the 8th gate, if his death is just to showcase the 8th gate, it comes off as a rather cheap ploy. On the other hand, him dying would spur Kakashi to stop Obito's madness. He would say something like; "I've had enough. I'm tired of people dying because of my mistakes"

Lastly, Team 10=Team Tragedy?? you're kidding, right?? if you ask me, Team Minato is the absolute personification of Team Tragedy.

A better name would probably be Team Worst Case Scenario.