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#6361 TouKen4Life3g

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 02:55 AM

QUOTE (ultranx @ Nov 23 2012, 09:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was the only one hyped the whole time but meh. Still can't wait to see the movie. I was't worried, had a feeling when I saw the picture with Naruto and Sakura running with comic looks on their faces that there was gonna be NS moments and the other pairings were mainly there for comic relief, and even if I was wrong I would've been okay because I wanted to watch the movie and be rolling on the floor laughing at the hilarious scenes in it when it comes out, which i still can't wait to do with my little brother lol.

I too didn't lose faith in the movie. I still remember the day when ads were making out that NH and SS will be part of the movie, especially the color spread. After that week, boy, talk about role reverse. I guarantee you that you would have laughed till tomorrow after all the acts the fans put up on our fandom. Now, the movie doesn't exist in their mind. The sad part was how SS fans were trying to convince us that AU! Sasuke only has craze for Sakura, and playboy in Japan has a different as in crazy for one girl, not multiple ones. I was so happy that Sakura didnt become one of those girls. Imagine if she saw Sasuke like that and just join in the crowd. If you ask me, the fact she didn't accept that shows that she's matured.

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 01:32 PM

Speaking about the movie on the negative effect it had with the opposition, have anyone notice this image created by a NH/SS fan?



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Posted 24 November 2012 - 01:52 PM

QUOTE (Don-kun @ Nov 24 2012, 01:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Speaking about the movie on the negative effect it had with the opposition, have anyone notice this image created by a NH/SS fan?


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both hinata and sasuke are super weird.


(° ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) looks like this forum does not support Unicode After all.

Edited by dovahkiin, 24 November 2012 - 01:58 PM.

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 01:59 PM

QUOTE (Don-kun @ Nov 24 2012, 08:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Speaking about the movie on the negative effect it had with the opposition, have anyone notice this image created by a NH/SS fan?


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I think it's funny the fact they do acknowledge that the scene is adorable. Otherwise, it would have been double standard on their part if they were to say, "Meh, it's brother-sister thing." Man, NS is really against the world...

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 03:03 PM

Did you guys read the guy argument or only made your comments based on the image?

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 03:10 PM

QUOTE (Don-kun @ Nov 24 2012, 03:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Did you guys read the guy argument or only made your comments based on the image?

he said i prefer sasusaku and naruhina, it already says it all, i'm not going to discuss preferences.
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Posted 24 November 2012 - 03:18 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Nov 24 2012, 10:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think it's funny the fact they do acknowledge that the scene is adorable. Otherwise, it would have been double standard on their part if they were to say, "Meh, it's brother-sister thing." Man, NS is really against the world...

Sure, because carrying someone like a BRIDE is something you do with your sister. 111189.gif

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 03:19 PM

QUOTE (Don-kun @ Nov 24 2012, 10:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Did you guys read the guy argument or only made your comments based on the image?

Well I already assume it's a troll, but you know, don't be surprised if there's something like that happening around the world. This world is bigger than we think. I remember the joke about the hug scene. Like Hinata did the hug instead. Actually, someone has the sig of reality and fantasy, which you should know what belongs what.

Lol at the comment to my "Brother-sister thing". I'm sure people find it romantic when a sister hugs her brother in front of the crowd. Call me when Naruto does the same for another girl.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 24 November 2012 - 03:21 PM.


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Posted 24 November 2012 - 03:39 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Nov 24 2012, 03:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well I already assume it's a troll, but you know, don't be surprised if there's something like that happening around the world. This world is bigger than we think. I remember the joke about the hug scene. Like Hinata did the hug instead. Actually, someone has the sig of reality and fantasy, which you should know what belongs what.

Lol at the comment to my "Brother-sister thing". I'm sure people find it romantic when a sister hugs her brother in front of the crowd. Call me when Naruto does the same for another girl.

Naruto tried to hug sakura, when jyraia told him to " hug the girl you love " before jyraia throw him on that abyss.

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 03:48 PM

QUOTE (dovahkiin @ Nov 24 2012, 10:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Naruto tried to hug sakura, when jyraia told him to " hug the girl you love " before jyraia throw him on that abyss.

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Lol I remember that. I did mean Naruto saving a girl in a bridal style. So far, no one else. Perhaps not even filler girls. Correct me if you like.

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 03:49 PM

On a movie, Lost Tower and the naruto movie before "Bonds", he saved that red haired girl "with the bridal style" on the movie Lost Tower.
and used bridal style to save that sorceress on second naruto movie or it wa the first i dont remember, which ends with naruto being requested to conceive the sorceress.

Edited by dovahkiin, 24 November 2012 - 03:52 PM.

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 03:56 PM

/\ for romantic purpose, the girls ended up falling for him. and lol at the last one laugh.gif

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 06:20 PM

QUOTE (dovahkiin @ Nov 24 2012, 11:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
On a movie, Lost Tower and the naruto movie before "Bonds", he saved that red haired girl "with the bridal style" on the movie Lost Tower.
and used bridal style to save that sorceress on second naruto movie or it wa the first i dont remember, which ends with naruto being requested to conceive the sorceress.

I remember both of those.

The Lost Tower girl got so embarrassed that she slapped Naruto (twice laugh.gif ), which shows that even she understood that it was a very intimate scenario, at least by japanese standards.

The other girl was from the first shippuden movie, her name was Shion. She's by far the worst offender of girls falling for Naruto. She went from mocking him for his potential death to indirectly asking him to have sex with her (continue the line of priestesses laugh.gif ) by the end of the movie.

Whatever the case, saving someone bridal style has romantic implications, at least with japanese anime culture. No way to spin that one.

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 08:11 PM

QUOTE (Don-kun @ Nov 24 2012, 06:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Speaking about the movie on the negative effect it had with the opposition, have anyone notice this image created by a NH/SS fan?


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I was wondering when they were going to make that photoshop drawing just like they have done so with all NS scenes in the manga. rolleyes.gif I still can't believe some fans can call those made up scenes to make their pairings canon when in truth they are taken from official NS scenes but they say it's not canon but brother/sister moment. facepalm.png That's why I gave up long ago and chose to ignore it like I have never seen such art.

Edited by Gravenimage, 24 November 2012 - 08:12 PM.

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 10:51 PM

^^
I agree with your statement, is really amazing how much hypocrisy you find in the the NH and SS arguments.

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Nov 24 2012, 02:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I remember both of those.

The Lost Tower girl got so embarrassed that she slapped Naruto (twice laugh.gif ), which shows that even she understood that it was a very intimate scenario, at least by japanese standards.

The other girl was from the first shippuden movie, her name was Shion. She's by far the worst offender of girls falling for Naruto. She went from mocking him for his potential death to indirectly asking him to have sex with her (continue the line of priestesses laugh.gif ) by the end of the movie.

Whatever the case, saving someone bridal style has romantic implications, at least with japanese anime culture. No way to spin that one.

Shion never said that, asking someone to be the father of your future kids is not the same as asking someone to have sex with you, just wanted to point that out. emoticon_monocle.gif

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 11:02 PM

I think (though I could be recalling incorrectly since its been so long) that I always had the same general opinion on the movie, from when we first heard about it and Kishi's involvement, to thinking it was NH and SS, to when we learned how much NS was in it and that SS and NH were trolled—and that opinion was that the movie isn't canon, but it can be used to somewhat argue authorial intent/authorial preferences.

Let the opposing fandoms think what they will. It doesn’t change what the movie is—nice NaruSaku fan service, and a potential indicator of Kishimoto’s fondness for/partiality towards Naruto and Sakura’s relationship, both platonically and romantically, over the “competition”.

As for those two pictures, I’m pretty sure those weren’t made by NH/SS fans. I think those are just made to be a parody, plain and simple (the trollish faces in the corner are kind of a give away imo).

Holding/rescuing someone bridal style can be romantic or it can be platonic—it all depends on context. For example, Sasuke catching Sakura bridal style after the Gaara fight, or Kakashi holding Naruto bridal style after the battle at VOTE. There was nothing romantic about those two at all (at least, imo).

The bridal style save in the movie, however, does come off as non-platonic/romantic because of context – they are smiling warmly at one another, faces close and what not. It gives the situation a much more intimate feel.

From what I can tell, NH/SS fandoms don’t see that moment as romantic—or at least, they view it as irrelevant since they think the movie is just something “cooked up by the anime team”.

Though the disparate treatment of the pairings wasn’t contained in just the movie. It kind of amazes me that the oneshot cover is still touted as Kishi showing preference to NH and SS, honestly.

Because it seems like full on ANTI NaruHina to me, given that Naruto is grimacing, sweating, leaning away from Hinata with his hand up to fend her off without any sort of blush whatsoever to indicate even a base physical attraction. So people argue that it just means Naruto prefers the real Hinata. But then what does that mean for Sakura being all lovey dovey and doe-eyed with AU!Sasuke? If we apply the same logic from making the NH portion pro, doesn’t that automatically make the SS portion anti, by making Sakura’s love for Sasuke seem shallow (because she clearly has no compunctions over having feelings for someone who looks like Sasuke but acts completely different)?

It seems pretty impossible to argue that the oneshot cover simultaneously promotes NH or SS, looking at it logically.
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Posted 24 November 2012 - 11:17 PM

QUOTE (Don-kun @ Nov 24 2012, 10:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Shion never said that, asking someone to be the father of your future kids is not the same as asking someone to have sex with you, just wanted to point that out. emoticon_monocle.gif

Sorry but is.
She did not mean it directly but this made naruto and everyone gets surprised so indirectly she said this.


QUOTE (Paptala @ Nov 24 2012, 11:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Because it seems like full on ANTI NaruHina to me, given that Naruto is grimacing, sweating, leaning away from Hinata with his hand up to fend her off without any sort of blush whatsoever to indicate even a base physical attraction. So people argue that it just means Naruto prefers the real Hinata. But then what does that mean for Sakura being all lovey dovey and doe-eyed with AU!Sasuke? If we apply the same logic from making the NH portion pro, doesn’t that automatically make the SS portion anti, by making Sakura’s love for Sasuke seem shallow (because she clearly has no compunctions over having feelings for someone who looks like Sasuke but acts completely different)?

It seems pretty impossible to argue that the oneshot cover simultaneously promotes NH or SS, looking at it logically.


I got surprised too, i dont get why why made a NS movie but promote NH or SS on adversiting.
This is illogical.
It's the same thing as selling an ice cream with chocolate flavor and say that it's strawberry.

Edited by dovahkiin, 24 November 2012 - 11:23 PM.

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 12:18 AM

@Paptala: Words of wisdom, ladies and gentlemen.

A few notes I would like to respond. You are right about the bridal save. The part that you nailed it is the context. Here's why. First of all, honestly, I forgot Sasuke saved Sakura in that style, BUT it's not being treated the same context as what NS received and trust me on this, I'm not being biased. Couple of reasons if I may address.

That panel/context was small that it just comes off as saving her because why not, she will hit hard on the ground from that height. Sakura was not even awake at that time. To make the scene literally forgettable is that Sasuke NEVER give himself a credit from Gaara's fight; he gave all of them to Naruto, and rightfully so, so Sakura can understand how much Naruto cares for her. Now comparing to recent save. That save was two half page panel worth of context. Not only it has a dramatic entrance, but media has been showing this scene again, like two games with one alteration in terms of design. It goes to show you that it has more value and meaning than anything else. Even the fans bring this up like its nice or wish it was Hinata, etc. Oh and Sakura was awake to see this. It's like watching a helpless princess being rescued by a strong courageous knight.

Also, girls, at least in Japan to my knowledge, does find this save lovable. It all depends the way it handles. Actually, I remember an anime that the girl blush when the guy carries her in a bridal style, and she was stuttering as like "what's going on?" So yeah, this scene is known to be lovey dovey. You see it in weddings and see it in multiple shows. In fact, we have fans from Japan who saw this movie always see it lovable. So what does that tells you?

The idea of only going by color spread is not good. That color spread is only showing how opposite AU! is. That's where we supposed to be like "What's going on?!" Yeah, I can understand fans here were bothered by it but I was not. Well, just felt a little skeptical but didn't lose hope. When the movie released, yeah, all of our worries vanished, including "Sasuke would have understand me" situation. It goes to show you that Kishi doesn't change his intention for anything. Well, at least roles and relationships.

Oh and thanks for reminding me about other saves. Yeah, Naruto has the special charm. laugh.gif

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 02:31 AM

Paptala, did you mean the image I posted? If that's the case then that Image was re-posted by a NS fan mocking the SS/NH fan, but if you want to see the original Author and see by your self that it was indeed a SS/NH fan who originally created the art, then here is his/her account.

Link:
http://browse.devian...rusaku#/d5lq8g1

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 02:32 AM

QUOTE (Don-kun @ Nov 24 2012, 07:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Paptala, did you mean the image I posted? If that's the case then that Image was re-posted by a NS fan mocking the SS/NH fan, but if you want to see the original Author and see by your self that it was indeed a SS/NH fan who originally created the art, then hear is his/her account.

Link:
http://browse.devian...rusaku#/d5lq8g1


No surprise there lol. rolleyes.gif
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