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#2621 Sakamaki Izayoi

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 11:21 PM

QUOTE (Slextrem @ Jul 4 2012, 12:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Does it really matter why people want to watch the movie? I think the most important thing is that everyone who wants to see it enjoys it. I don't care if they're excited to see shipping service, or awesome battles, or a good story, or certain characters, or whatever. As long as everyone enjoys it, the rest isn't a big deal.

How do you know the plot of this movie won't be 10x more amazing than the last 5? It certainly wouldn't be getting so much hype if it didn't have good structure. We've got the main villain of the cannon series launching an attack on Konoha, an all out battle between Konoha 11 and the Akatsuki members, the hero and heroine of the story being trapped in an illusionary jutsu, the legendary 4th Hokage fighting at his son's side, AU-characters acting *way* OOC compared to their RW counterparts, bonding between Naruto and the Kyuubi, dark Kyuubi vs light Kyuubi, and that may not even be everything. What more could you be looking for? Wait until you actually see the movie before deciding that the plot, which none of us know any details about, is going to suck.


No!, those stuffs does not make sense if i someome would watch a movie because of battle they could make "naruto's arena" but when u force things so hard, the plot loses quality, this illusionary jutsu does not make sense along with a dark naruto/kyubbi because if the AU's world naruto is evil why he is not criminal when he arrives?, the 4th hokage fighting at his son's side in a illusion against the dark naruto srsly?, u can enjoy the movie but it will be One Shot.
when u say enjoy u are talking about tastes, like i said before.
i really wanted to see a naruto's movie that would worth every cent that you pay a well write plot, u can put naruto's family everyone but without a decent plot it lacks enthusiasm.

QUOTE (Slextrem @ Jul 4 2012, 12:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Also, stop criticizing people for discussing possible interactions between characters. Anticipating pairing service is just a bonus for fans who enjoy the couples. happy.gif

i'm critizing the movie and their plot not the people dont try to mix up if i hurt ur feelings because you like stuff that i dont like i respect it but i put my tastes a side i did a logical thought about this movie, i will enjoy it but it'll be one shot, because i know even if i like naruto's with sasuke and the fights the plot will suck.
and even the critic and a lot of people says that the movie is bad i'll understand them.

i have nothing against kishimoto, because no one did some captivating story like he did, but i can tell that it lacks a well write plot and even if the plot sucks i'll understand because it's not easy to take care of a movie and at the same time write 15-20 mangas because of a new naruto's game.
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Posted 03 July 2012 - 11:53 PM

@ dovahkiin

You keep saying that events in this movie don't make sense, but my point is that you don't know all of the details yet, and you won't until you actually see the movie. You're making judgements based off of the few teasers we've seen so far. How can you make a clear judgement of the plot without ever having seen the movie before? The trailers and teasers are going to be filled to the brim with elements that strike fans 'taste' in order to draw attention to the movie and get them talking - it's to build hype. No film creator is going to throw the entire plot of the movie in the trailer so you can decide if it meets your standards before watching it. Wait until you've actually seen the movie before being so critical of it. huh.gif

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 12:31 AM

QUOTE (Slextrem @ Jul 4 2012, 12:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
@ dovahkiin

You keep saying that events in this movie don't make sense, but my point is that you don't know all of the details yet, and you won't until you actually see the movie. You're making judgements based off of the few teasers we've seen so far. How can you make a clear judgement of the plot without ever having seen the movie before? The trailers and teasers are going to be filled to the brim with elements that strike fans 'taste' in order to draw attention to the movie and get them talking - it's to build hype. No film creator is going to throw the entire plot of the movie in the trailer so you can decide if it meets your standards before watching it. Wait until you've actually seen the movie before being so critical of it. huh.gif

sinopsys u statements are base on character reactions, the synopse already show what the plot the movie is, the genjutsu simple does not fit because even u say that it changes the reality itself does not explain why naruto parents are alive and plus somethings that happened to sasuke nad AU'naruto.
but no he said a genjutsu , ok but u and i would love to see the interactions but the plot itself is bad written it's not going to be an epic movie but something made to please fans.
and i understand kishimoto he had problems with his hand plus the extra mangas he had to write because of a naruto's game and htis movie i will understand that is was the best he could do but no one will save naruto's movie from the critics it will clearly receive after it will be released.
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Posted 04 July 2012 - 12:44 AM

QUOTE (dovahkiin @ Jul 4 2012, 01:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
sinopsys u statements are base on character reactions, the synopse already show what the plot the movie is, the genjutsu simple does not fit because even u say that it changes the reality itself does not explain why naruto parents are alive and plus somethings that happened to sasuke nad AU'naruto.
but no he said a genjutsu , ok but u and i would love to see the interactions but the plot itself is bad written it's not going to be an epic movie but something made to please fans.
and i understand kishimoto he had problems with his hand plus the extra mangas he had to write because of a naruto's game and htis movie i will understand that is was the best he could do but no one will save naruto's movie from the critics it will clearly receive after it will be released.



ok...your not making sense, she didn't even mention character reactions, YOU did. also, you can't judge something you haven't seen yet, if you liked the first Naruto movie, with Naruto saving the Mary-sue,( wait, didn't he do that in all that filler movies? pictureem0.gif ) anyway my point is I don't see why you would dislike a well taken care of plot by kishimoto himself, have a little faith in the man's skills. sweatdrop.gif

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 12:44 AM

QUOTE (dovahkiin @ Jul 3 2012, 08:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
the genjutsu simple does not fit because even u say that it changes the reality itself does not explain why naruto parents are alive and plus somethings that happened to sasuke nad AU'naruto.


powerful genjutsu such as the Uchiha possess has been shown in the manga to alter reality, if you cannot accept this then you haven't been following the manga very well

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 01:06 AM



ナルト 「サクラちゃんを頼むってばよ!」
Naruto: "Take care of Sakura-chan!"


 
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Posted 04 July 2012 - 01:08 AM

If this movie turns out to be a canonical tie-in to the manga, I would guess that it's most likely placement would be between the end of the current arc and the beginning of the next arc.



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Posted 04 July 2012 - 01:09 AM

LadyGT you have good eyes to read that script lol


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Posted 04 July 2012 - 01:14 AM

QUOTE (LadyGT @ Jul 3 2012, 06:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>


ナルト 「サクラちゃんを頼むってばよ!」
Naruto: "Take care of Sakura-chan!"


What else does it say?

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 01:17 AM

QUOTE (K9ofChaos @ Jul 4 2012, 01:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
EDIT: Holy kitten LadyGT just made a post on this forum! omfg.gif


Lol, she's been here since this weekend, everybody is in awe.

BTW LadyGT, do you think you can translate any more of this script?

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 01:26 AM

QUOTE (K9ofChaos @ Jul 4 2012, 11:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
EDIT: Holy kitten LadyGT just made a post on this forum! omfg.gif


AHAH yeah I joined the forum few days ago biggrin.gif

QUOTE (Verilance @ Jul 4 2012, 11:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
LadyGT you have good eyes to read that script lol


Someone on NF posted the clear script and translated it.
I can see that it is on one of the pages, here:



QUOTE (Transformers03 @ Jul 4 2012, 11:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What else does it say?


I don't know, unfortunatly my japanese is really basic but it came out also a script about Naruto and Sakura meeting with AU chouji, shikamaru and Ino if I'm not mistaking, I'm still waiting for someone to confirm that!

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 01:37 AM

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 01:51 AM

QUOTE (ciardha @ Jul 3 2012, 05:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
She figured that out a long time ago. Naruto, and even has outright said so (chapters 469-70). Look at chapters 245, 297, 343, 450, 469-70, 474, and how Sakura reacts to Naruto's rescue of her for absolute proof. I get a bit annoyed at the people who go on about chapter 540 as if it says Sakura is still the swooning 12 year old Sasuke fangirl- does she look happy? Nope, she looks sick and ashamed that she failed Naruto and wasn't able to eliminate every bit of the memories of her feelings for Sasuke, and feels sick and ashamed of herself as a person-beating herself up as some sort of sick person for having even the remnant of the memories of those feelings. Instead of trashing Sakura as still being a swoony Sasuke fangirl, you are supposed to feel sympathy for her agony. She didn't realize it would be harder than she thought to eliminate all those feelings.

It's more like Sakura will be kind of freaked out by seeing this Sasuke that acts like what the naive 12 year old Sakura thought she wanted. To 16-17 year old Sakura it will feel overblown and creepy. Sakura is a calmer person than Naruto when she is freaked out. As I pointed out before "doki doki" is also attributed to someone panicking inside. And considering she flinches back, clutches her hands tightly on her robe and her eyes look kind of freaked out, I think it's obvious that she isn't getting all swoony about it.

And Slextrem, I see that as a misinterpretation of the scene- People are reading it as if Sakura knew Hinata made her confession, we know Sakura did not. Sakura didn't even know the sequence of when Hinata went out and when Naruto went 6 tails. I see it more as it brings back to the fore Sakura's own romantic feelings for Naruto (Note the kind of romantic image of Naruto in Sakura's thoughts...) Sakura has known for certain that those confusing affectionate and concerned feelings she has had for Naruto since sometime before chapter 245, was romantic love since Yamato made it clear to her in chapter 297.) From Sakura's perspective Hinata did exactly the same thing she had done in 296. She probably thought Hinata got hurt in something of the same way Sakura had. She figured Hinata cared deeply for Naruto too, it was more a reminder of her own foolish act and she was telling Hinata to not put her life in danger for something she couldn't fix that way. It reinforced to Sakura that she indeed was in love with Naruto... Thus the romantic hug of Naruto in front of the whole village in chapter 450.

It's almost exactly like how the love letter nin reminds her in a painful way of the girl she used to be who crushed on someone who had no feelings for her whatsoever, and how she thinks how awful and sick a person she is to still have any feelings whatsoever for the monstrous person she sees as the real Sasuke- It draws her inside herself, makes her dwell on her own feelings. Both moments are painful, but regarding her feelings for Naruto, just mildly so, and it motivates her to show her feelings openly to Naruto yet again. Thinking about the remnants of the memories of her feelings for Sasuke makes her start to get depressed. Luckily this is part 2 Sakura and it doesn't affect her mind and skills as a ninja and she quickly takes down Zetsu Neiji with a combo of sharp intelligence and physical strength...


I totally agree. Sakura is currently and has been for a long time now, the Naruto character which I have the most sympathy for. I remeber once when someone on a forum compared Sakura to a punching bag, because she was just taking hit after hit after hit, both physically and mentally. To me, this really describes Sakura's character during the summit arc and beyond quite well. I mean first she learns that she has unintentionally been causing Naruto a great deal of pain for such a long time. Then she tries to relieve Naruto of that burden, only to have him act like an a**hole towards her (he was somewhat justified though). Then she tries to go and kill Sasuke, knowing full well that if she succeeds Naruto will probably hate her forever and then what happens? Ultimately, she can't do it. She must have felt like a gigantic failure. sad.gif

And then we have the lover nin scene which once again, as you yourself pointed out, only served to painfully remind her of how much she "failed", once again feeding her self destructive nature.

So I'm not trashing her or anything. I totally understand what kind of emotional situation she's in. What I meant was that meeting this AU Sasuke could potentially be the final straw for her and that she will finally realize that "This is just never going to happen. I can't keep dwelling on these silly old feelings. All they're doing is holding me back. I have to move on... For real this time!" I know, I'm not very good at writing dialogue. One of the reasons why I don't write fanfiction. sweatdrop.gif

Anyway, my horrible script writing aside, by point is basically that this movie might give Sakura the necessary push towards that "love epiphany" that some other members have already talked about. I know this theory is a bit sketchy since we can't really be sure if this movie can be counted as canon or not, but with everything that's been revealed so far, I don't think it's completely implausible.

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 01:53 AM

QUOTE (Slextrem @ Jul 3 2012, 07:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
@ dovahkiin

You keep saying that events in this movie don't make sense, but my point is that you don't know all of the details yet, and you won't until you actually see the movie. You're making judgements based off of the few teasers we've seen so far. How can you make a clear judgement of the plot without ever having seen the movie before? The trailers and teasers are going to be filled to the brim with elements that strike fans 'taste' in order to draw attention to the movie and get them talking - it's to build hype. No film creator is going to throw the entire plot of the movie in the trailer so you can decide if it meets your standards before watching it. Wait until you've actually seen the movie before being so critical of it. huh.gif


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No reason for anyone to complain about how people speculate, thats about all anyone can do. That's what teasers are meant to do, everyone should reserve judgement until we can see it. Can not understand how anybody could come up with negatives from the few collective minutes provided through these teasers.






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QUOTE (TerrorKing @ Jul 3 2012, 09:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Anyway, my horrible script writing aside, by point is basically that this movie might give Sakura the necessary push towards that "love epiphany" that some other members have already talked about. I know this theory is a bit sketchy since we can't really be sure if this movie can be counted as canon or not, but with everything that's been revealed so far, I don't think it's completely implausible.

Canon or not, since kishimoto is involved, you at least hope we are getting a glimpse of how Kishimoto approaches Sakura's character seeing as he's involved.

Edited by Mik3, 04 July 2012 - 01:58 AM.

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 02:00 AM

@dovahkiin
Look, dude. I know how you feel about this, but in truth you can apply this logic to any of the pairing groups. The SS and NH fans are ranting that this movie is the "real" story of Naruto based purely on the fact that Sasuke is good and Hinata is a hardass. I however do not think this is why most of the fanbase like these movies.

That being said, I'll be honest I haven't watched any (save for 2) of the Naruto movies despite some having some good NS moments. Why because I didn't find the plot interesting and it didn't pique my interest. I don't really like watching anime movies because they are not canon. Even if they are good movies, the disappointment is that in reality they never happened even if the plot can support it being there. The two movies I have seen is...well I can't remember which one, but it is part 1 movie about in the Land of Ice and the one where Naruto "died." Forgive for not knowing the names or which movie it is

The land of Ice one was boring to me, but the one where Naruto died was really interesting in that to me it offered an alternate look at what would happen if the story went in such a direction. This new movie for the same reason. The alternate universe is great to see especially when it offers this really different universe which is what is making me really like this plot. Even if there are things that seem unlikely or some minor problems, I am still eager to watch this.

I am not just expecting some interesting character change, but some great fight scenes. So don't always assume from a few posts that many feel the same about this movie. I am always eager for some good NS scenes, but I am much interested in the plot itself.

QUOTE (Codus N @ Jul 3 2012, 08:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
At best, we can say it is a show of author intent. Unless Kishi writes a special chapter like Kubo and Oda did, we won't be able to know where we can put the context of this movie in canon.


Yeah, I want to say that Sakura's parents are canon. So, what I want to think is that plot is not canon, but the characters in the plot are. Since this is more of an alternate universe, I want to think that the elements that make it up are real since Kishimoto is making them if you know what I mean and not sound confusing.

I have to say, I am VERY interested in seeing a movie about a universe where Sakura was the Jinchuriki and not Naruto.
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Posted 04 July 2012 - 05:36 AM

QUOTE (Verilance @ Jul 4 2012, 01:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
powerful genjutsu such as the Uchiha possess has been shown in the manga to alter reality, if you cannot accept this then you haven't been following the manga very well


yes itt can but not at the scale of the movie.
even if can alter the reality does not explain a llot of things.

@keikoyousuke It certainly wouldn't be getting so much hype if it didn't have good structure. We've got the main villain of the cannon series launching an attack on Konoha, an all out battle between Konoha 11 and the Akatsuki members, the hero and heroine of the story being trapped in an illusionary jutsu, the legendary 4th Hokage fighting at his son's side,
this are characters reactions.

"Yeah, I want to say that Sakura's parents are canon."
Nope, it's on the AU universe how u can u prove that that sakura parents have the same personalitites as the real ones if we never see them?

Edited by dovahkiin, 04 July 2012 - 05:37 AM.

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 05:55 AM

QUOTE (James S Cassidy @ Jul 4 2012, 09:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, I want to say that Sakura's parents are canon. So, what I want to think is that plot is not canon, but the characters in the plot are. Since this is more of an alternate universe, I want to think that the elements that make it up are real since Kishimoto is making them if you know what I mean and not sound confusing.

I have to say, I am VERY interested in seeing a movie about a universe where Sakura was the Jinchuriki and not Naruto.


Actually, I don't think it's Sakura who's the Jinchuuriki here. Naruto still stays as the Jinchuuriki but however, her parents were the one who died sealing kyuubi in this AU world, judging by what's been shown so far.

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 06:10 AM

QUOTE (Codus N @ Jul 4 2012, 01:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Actually, I don't think it's Sakura who's the Jinchuuriki here. Naruto still stays as the Jinchuuriki but however, her parents were the one who died sealing kyuubi in this AU world, judging by what's been shown so far.


The article that showed her parents didn't give the impression that they are deceased in the genjutsu world, the opposite actually- especially her mother, and remember the sketch that we found out was Sakura's mother Mebuki, she's sketched with her arm thrust out in front of the sketch of Sakura as if she was blocking Sakura from going somewhere, with a very irritated expression on Sakura's face. And remember in the color sketch of Mebuki the colors of her clothing and clan symbol are reversed from Sakura's....

I'm wondering if what happens is that Madara created a genjutsu Mebuki who acts to attempt to keep Sakura separated from Naruto, and Sakura is constantly arguing with her, because it's very difficult to shut off feelings for someone who looks and sounds just like her mother...

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ナルト 「サクラちゃんを頼むってばよ!」
Naruto: "Take care of Sakura-chan!"


Welcome to H&E, love your drawings smile.gif Oh, tanomu means rely on, depend on. So the sentence reads: Sakura chan tanomuttebayo! He may be addressing Sakura and saying: "(You can) rely/depend on me Sakura chan!" I'd have to see the sentences around it to see the context, whether he's talking to Sakura, or speaking about Sakura to others, if the later, it would then become: "Rely/depend on Sakura chan!"

I can see that sentence too in the picture but the other sentences look a bit too blurry to see clearly with these middle aged eyes. If someone could sharpen the image better I could also try my hand at a bit of translating to try to hash out the context...

Edited by ciardha, 04 July 2012 - 06:40 AM.

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 06:42 AM

QUOTE (Codus N @ Jul 3 2012, 10:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Actually, I don't think it's Sakura who's the Jinchuuriki here. Naruto still stays as the Jinchuuriki but however, her parents were the one who died sealing kyuubi in this AU world, judging by what's been shown so far.


If Naruto still has the Nine-Tails, how is his mother still alive? Did she not have the Nine-Tails in this universe, but if that's true how did Naruto get the Nine-Tails, and why does Kushina's hair still go all Nine-Tails when she gets angry? I guess it's possible that Kushina simply survived the extraction of the demon in this universe, and possibly someone other than Minato sealed the beast in Naruto. If that is true, I think it would've been Sakura's dad that sealed the demon in Naruto, because why would we have a fifth Hokage (whoever that could be) if the the fourth one isn't dead (or possibly retired).

I think Sakura's mother, if her father is really dead in this universe, will hold a grudge against Naruto and his family, and wouldn't want Sakura to hang out with Naruto. That could be the reason why they are always arguing. I know all this is a stretch, but it's a theory I put together after hearing everyone's own respective theories.

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 07:05 AM

I'd love something like this to happen in Road To Ninja:



Naruto having a bit of bonding time with Sakura's parents. tongue.gif

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