How many of you believe Paradox's theory is true??
#1
Posted 19 November 2010 - 03:42 PM
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#2
Posted 19 November 2010 - 06:41 PM
#3
Posted 19 November 2010 - 08:55 PM
#4
Posted 19 November 2010 - 09:04 PM
#5
Posted 20 November 2010 - 01:44 AM
The premise is that using this knowlegde gained from his trips, Minato who is a genius already, but now is forearmed with knowledge of the future is able to create a series of failsafes and back up plans that kick in at certain events. Such as the sealing part of himself and kushina inside naruto, extra locks on the seal, allowing the seal to leak chakra so kyubis chakra will be absorbed into narutos system. And so on and so forth.
Its a basic premise that Minatos genius is based on both his natural intelligence and gifts and his foresight.
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#6
Posted 20 November 2010 - 09:04 AM
I don't know, it is a bit of a stretch. Perchance he could have forsaw the future, but to be honest it seems like a cop-out. Like saying "this was all a dream" kind of thing.
Perhaps, Minato knew Madara was going to go after the Nine-tails for some reasons and decided that he needed to prepare his son for the future. Later, messages to let Naruto know why and how things ended up as they did.
I don't know if Minato new exactly what was going to happen, but I have a feeling he had a good idea.
#7
Posted 20 November 2010 - 01:48 PM
But time travel Minato's pretty much been disproved with the sealing flashback, Minato had no clue who he was fighting, he didn't know about the future...he did what he did because he had faith in his son.
#8
Posted 20 November 2010 - 02:25 PM
I don't know, it is a bit of a stretch. Perchance he could have forsaw the future, but to be honest it seems like a cop-out. Like saying "this was all a dream" kind of thing.
Perhaps, Minato knew Madara was going to go after the Nine-tails for some reasons and decided that he needed to prepare his son for the future. Later, messages to let Naruto know why and how things ended up as they did.
I don't know if Minato new exactly what was going to happen, but I have a feeling he had a good idea.
Actually, he did it's a NS fic although NS is not the focus of the story.
As for Minato knowing exactly what was going to happen, he could've known exactly what was going to happen or gotten a good idea of what was going to happen. It doesn't have to happen the way PJ's predicted it, but the premise is VERY plausible. Remember that Hiraishin was considered one of the finest works of the art of Fuuinjutsu. I really wouldn't put it past Minato that he secretly (by accident) created a version that lets him time-travel.
But time travel Minato's pretty much been disproved with the sealing flashback, Minato had no clue who he was fighting, he didn't know about the future...he did what he did because he had faith in his son.
Nope. Think about it. First, Minato faced Madara one-on-one, then he asked him "are you Madara?" I think that was simply Minato trying to get a reaction out of him. He wanted to see the way his body language react to that question. Remember, even if Minato's not a sensor, he should be able to try and come to a conclusion about Madara by reading his body and speech.
Second, Kushina decided to kill herself and Kyuubi by resealing it inside her, thus sparing Minato and Naruto's lives. But Minato just went ahead and used the Shiki Fuujin to seal Kyuubi in his son, something Kushina objected strongly. If I were him, I think I would've decided to live, in order to respect her wishes. But Minato decided otherwise. Why?? because Minato knew that his alternate self had already sealed Kyuubi in Naruto. If he had decided not to, it could create a parallel universe and things could go wrong. Remember that in his story, Minato wanted to try to preserve the timeline while trying to tweak it a bit. And we know that Minato wants to be "resurrected" in a time line where his return wouldn't create a controversy. Anyways, back to my point. Minato decided to use Shiki Fuujin because it had to happen that way. Otherwise, his plan could be ruined.
And there's Kabuto and his Edo Tensei.
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#9
Posted 20 November 2010 - 07:10 PM
Minato's souls was eaten by the Shinigami, we saw it happening, there is no coming back from that, Unless Madara requies the Ying energy of the Kyuubi and forces the soul out from the Shinigami stomach, I don't see Minato making a comeback....which come to think of it, might actually happen, if Madara wants all 9 beasts powers.
#10
Posted 21 November 2010 - 12:06 AM
As for Minato knowing exactly what was going to happen, he could've known exactly what was going to happen or gotten a good idea of what was going to happen. It doesn't have to happen the way PJ's predicted it, but the premise is VERY plausible. Remember that Hiraishin was considered one of the finest works of the art of Fuuinjutsu. I really wouldn't put it past Minato that he secretly (by accident) created a version that lets him time-travel.
That wouldn't explain why he didn't just forsee the Nine-tails attack and prevent it before it even happened.
It's a good theory, but it had holes. In fact, why didn't he just travel backwards and stop Madara before he attacked.
While I don't want to be a party pooper, there is just small holes in the theory.
Edited by James S Cassidy, 21 November 2010 - 12:22 AM.
#11
Posted 21 November 2010 - 04:20 AM
Sure, he could've gone back further to kill Madara, but the thing is, as potrayed in PJ's story, he wants to preserve the timeline while also trying to find a way to tweak it (but not drastically) I think Minato is a smart man, he knows that messing the timeline so drastically would be wrong, it's the same as playing god. But Minato is definitely someone who doesn't intend to do so. He merely wants to try to find a way to alter the timeline while not creating such a huge impact on it. I think, if I had to describe it, Minato wanted his "impact" to be nothing more than a drop of water falling to the ground. That's what I think he planned to do.
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#12
Posted 21 November 2010 - 06:00 AM
Even the smartest can't predict the future that much even if he time travels.
This is like the Fable games if anyone has ever played them.
Theresa said that time is not a straight line. There are things that can happen, there are things that should happen, and then there are things that no matter what you do you can not change the outcome. This might explain why Minato didn't just go back in time to kill Madara. (assuming of course this theory is true)
No matter what he did, the time would always end up at that point. So instead of trying to prevent it or reverse it decided to alter it to gain more of an advantage for Naruto, but he could have also made it worse for Naruto as well.
Who knows what changes he made actually helped or hurt the future until that bridge gets crossed.
#13
Posted 21 November 2010 - 06:42 AM
#14
Posted 21 November 2010 - 06:44 AM
All of these can have numerous larger changes in the over all story as they affect indirectly or directly the path of narutos development as well as other characters. That type of what if is a prime theorey in most time travel stories and theoreys as well.
One thing about going to the past and changing an aspect is that i see in many stories that authors tend to forget to have the character make the trip back after the changes are made in order to assure the changes occured in the first place.
The smartest plan for Minato in that corcumstance, is literaly to do exactly as he did. Set small little things that dont change the main time line to drastically, but do affect and help Naruto as he grows, and insure that when the times right he and possibly Kushina can return.
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#15
Posted 21 November 2010 - 08:19 AM
Besides, it'll give Minato & Kushina a bit of time to get to know Sakura closer.
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